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@  majik19 : (13 October 2015 - 09:09 PM) Apparently we claimed Arsalan Kazemi off waivers from the Hawks today... yet another undersized (6'7") power forward for Morey's cupboard.
@  Mario Peña : (10 October 2015 - 01:12 PM) If your part if the Red94 Fantasy Basketball League check the thread to vote for the date and time for the draft event. Thanks y'all!
@  jorgeaam : (07 October 2015 - 08:47 PM) Guys we need 1 more owner for the Red94 fantasy league, if interested please comment on the post in the fantasy basketball thread
@  slick shoes : (07 October 2015 - 06:50 PM) Kobe ranked one spot higher than Ariza? Is this based on legacy or...??
@  slick shoes : (07 October 2015 - 04:13 PM) It was hard to keep up with both the Astros and Rockets at the same time. Should be interesting on Thursday with the Texans and Astros on simultaneously.
@  Mario Peña : (07 October 2015 - 04:09 PM) It was fun to have the Rockets on last night! Right now I'm watching the Celtics versus Milan and Alessandro Gentile is impressive.
@  jorgeaam : (06 October 2015 - 07:47 PM) Well, thinking twice about it, I'd rather have him score less and have the team as a whole do better. Lawson should take a lot of his load off
@  jorgeaam : (06 October 2015 - 07:47 PM) Loving that, hope he hits 30 PPG this year
@  thejohnnygold : (06 October 2015 - 06:15 PM) Someone is feeling confident :) : LINK
@  jorgeaam : (06 October 2015 - 05:54 PM) 10 Teams done, will need 2 more
@  Mario Peña : (06 October 2015 - 02:35 PM) Alright guys, if anyone is interested in joining the Red94 fantasy basketball league we could use one more player to get us to 10 teams (or three to get us to 12 teams). Just check the thread in the Fantasy Basketball forum. Thanks!
@  thejohnnygold : (05 October 2015 - 06:23 PM) I use leaguepass here in Austin with no problems...
@  skip 2 my lou : (05 October 2015 - 03:14 PM) Hey fellas, I'm a rocket fan but I live in the heart of Dallas. Does anybody know if I buy NBA Leaguepass if it's too close to be subject to blackouts?
@  Losthief : (02 October 2015 - 02:24 AM) tks jg
@  thejohnnygold : (29 September 2015 - 05:16 AM) FYI, it was media day today. Interviews are up at NBA.com
@  slick shoes : (23 September 2015 - 06:37 PM) kind of late in the day but NBATV is broadcasting classis Rockets games all day today.
@  SadLakerFan : (16 September 2015 - 04:37 AM) Man, as a Laker fan, I'm learning how little you care about the off season when your team sucks. Anyway, a quick moment to remember Moses. Still remember watching the 81 team as a kid - losing record, NBA Finals. I would have cried w/joy if they could have beaten the Celtics.
@  jorgeaam : (15 September 2015 - 08:30 PM) http://bleacherrepor...ist-after-crash
@  jorgeaam : (15 September 2015 - 08:30 PM) So to celebrate his new contract, Montrezl Harrell saved someone's life on monday
@  thejohnnygold : (14 September 2015 - 04:36 PM) A good article from Blinebury talking about when Hakeem and Moses used to play in the park. LINK

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#21 Losthief

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Posted 03 February 2015 - 01:25 AM

Yes, all of this is true.  What it misses is the point that I am talking about the free agency period following that year.  In between the 2016-17 season and the 2017-18 season Anthony, presuming he has not signed an extension, will be a full on free agent.  The restricted part only applies to the QO year (between 2015-16 and 2016-17).  In regards to that, yes, in between the Finals and June 30th NO must submit a QO and teams can make offers, but he is restricted.  Once his contract is up in 2018 he is a free agent 100%.

 

NO already extended Anthony to a MAX 5 year rookie deal.  This is why he will make $9M in his fifth year of his rookie contract.  I am almost 100% sure (never 100% when it comes to the CBA) that after that 5th year, barring any other extension, he is a free agent with no restrictions, but NO has the Bird Rights advantage.

 

CBAFAQ (question #44)

 

So, to repeat, he is a restricted free agent heading into the 2016-17 season and a full on free agent after it....which is what I'm talking about.  It's exciting because guess who comes off the books at the same time?  Dwight Howard, Terrence Jones, and D-Mo.  We will have their Bird Rights and can sign Davis to a max and then re-sign them using the Bird Rights.  It will be awesome.  :D

 

umm...that would be predicated on Anthony Davis signing the qualifying offer only for 9million (the 9 million is not an extension, merely a 1 yr minimum offer they must offer to keep matching rights for his RFA).

 

But lets assume he won't sign for 1 year 9 million, cause no one does. Then assuming Anthony Davis attracts a max offer from someone out there (which is a 100 percent safe assumption) New Orleans will have the right to sign him to that same value offer sheet by matching it. There are no 5-year rookie contracts. (see here: http://www.cbafaq.co...arycap.htm#Q49)There are 4 years (including extensions) then a separate 1-year Qualifying Offer, which Anthony will never play under since when he gets the max offer for the 2016-2017 season from some team New Orleans will match and the new max offer sheet will start in 2016-2017. He would have to forgo the max offer and sign the Qualifying offer to become a free agent in 2017 summer, which is not likely to happen unless he really really really hates New Orleans cause that's alot of money and alot of years.

 

If your still confused here: http://www.sbnation....-cavaliers-hook

 

its about kyrie irving but the same points stand for Davis just on a different time line. This is the whole point about building through the draft, and why you almost never see sub 25 year old max-level free agents...cause the team has to choose to let him go, or he has to forgo money and security to get out.


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    Posted 03 February 2015 - 01:34 AM

    Umm Greg Monroe just signed his one year qualifying offer last summer. He will be an UFA this summer. It happens, and I see it could start happening more if players want to leave the places where they are drafted.
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    Posted 03 February 2015 - 01:47 AM

    Umm Greg Monroe just signed his one year qualifying offer last summer. He will be an UFA this summer. It happens, and I see it could start happening more if players want to leave the places where they are drafted.

     

    he didn't get a max offer though...thats the point, no ones turned down max money for max years for the QA so far cause you lose like 20 million over the life of the contract (5 years) and you lose security. Monroe got lowballed (his opinion not mine) so signed it as a bet on himself. Also he's the classic example of the exception that proves the rule. He's like the first since ben gordon of a top (?) talent forgoing an extension, and none of them have been max extension like anthony davis will get.


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    Posted 03 February 2015 - 01:47 AM

    He wasn't going to get the max.... That's the whole point of him taking the QO.
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    Posted 03 February 2015 - 01:55 AM

    Umm Greg Monroe just signed his one year qualifying offer last summer. He will be an UFA this summer. It happens, and I see it could start happening more if players want to leave the places where they are drafted.

     

    Ummmmm, This is getting silly.  There are clearly subjective assumptions being made and then being conveyed as if the other side of the argument is.....lacking in understanding.  So let's curb that right now and not talk down to people.  I am assuming Davis wants to leave.  That is crucial to every other aspect of what I am saying.  If you ignore that then, sure, my statements might appear lacking or confused.  I read the CBA too.  

     

    It doesn't matter.  He will do what he does and we will all find out in a year or two how it plays out.  The fact is, if he wants out of New Orleans he will sign the QO and play it out.  He has to know that NO is going to match any offer in RFA.  If he doesn't know that then his agent surely does and will tell him.  This is about more than legal-ese...there is a human element to it.


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    Posted 03 February 2015 - 02:15 AM

    .  I am assuming Davis wants to leave.  That is crucial to every other aspect of what I am saying.  If you ignore that then, sure, my statements might appear lacking or confused.  I read the CBA too.  

     

     

    Ah i'm sorry...ok i did miss/misunderstand that point, the referring to the Qualifying offer as the 5th year of the rookie scale confused me, my bad. I still would find it hard to believe he would take the 20 million lost over the 5 years that taking the QO means. But, yeah if he really wanted out i guess he could do that. Though I think he'd just force a trade instead. That said, if he does sign that QO instead for whatever reasons i agree you chase him with everything you got.


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