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[houcmg38]

Rondo is a terrible fit for us, CANNOT shoot from anywhere on the floor including FT line. Eric Bledsoe would be a much better fit. I was kinda on board with losing parsons, but now that this has played out. I understand going for Bosh was important, but why did we waste time on Anthony? What was he going to bring? Tattoos don't count. Instead of wasting time on these fools, we should have gone for Eric Bledsoe 1st, when Phoenix don't match offer (because they have Drogic)we sign ariza if cap room, then match Parsons putting us in the same cap issue as if we signed Bosh and still have a contending starting 5. Surely we could have signed Bledsoe and Ariza for 20 mil or less
Haward
Harden
Parsons
T Jones
Eric Bledsoe
6th man of the year Ariza

Beverley, cannon, daniels, Dmoe, FA big man, hamelton, etc, etc

We win 55+ and advance to 2nd round mimimum

[slick shoes]

Rondo is a terrible fit for us, CANNOT shoot from anywhere on the floor including FT line. Eric Bledsoe would be a much better fit. I was kinda on board with losing parsons, but now that this has played out. I understand going for Bosh was important, but why did we waste time on Anthony? What was he going to bring? Tattoos don't count. Instead of wasting time on these fools, we should have gone for Eric Bledsoe 1st, when Phoenix don't match offer (because they have Drogic)we sign ariza if cap room, then match Parsons putting us in the same cap issue as if we signed Bosh and still have a contending starting 5. Surely we could have signed Bledsoe and Ariza for 20 mil or less
Haward
Harden
Parsons
T Jones
Eric Bledsoe
6th man of the year Ariza

Beverley, cannon, daniels, Dmoe, FA big man, hamelton, etc, etc

We win 55+ and advance to 2nd round mimimum

 

He is actually a great fit for us. Veteran leadership, pass first guard which will mesh well with Howard and Harden's demand for touches, a true floor general which we definitely lack. Understand that shooting is not something that the Rockets lack. The rumor is that any offer extended to Bledsoe will be matched by PHX which is why we either haven't chased him or every attempt has been immediately shot down. 

 

I'd also venture to say that at this point (even with the addition of Bledsoe or Rondo) we will be ousted in the first round unless defense becomes a priority for this team.

[thejohnnygold]

Sometimes it seems as if people think free agency is like going to the grocery store.

 

Yeah, ummmm, let's get one of those top shelf point guards.  No, not that one.  Grab the Bledsoe....annnnnnd we're gonna want more shooting guard.  No, not the Stephenson...it upsets my stomach.  This Meeks is way over-priced.  Forget it, we've got a Troy Daniels at home already.

 

I'm still upset we didn't get that Bosh.  It was the only one and some other jerk offered more money for it at the last second.  It should have been ours!  We saw it first!

 

I tell you what, let's just grab a bunch of these discount power forwards and small-ish centers, take them to the farmers' market and we can trade for one of their nice Kevin Loves.

 

If we don't look at things with a larger window than, say, 10 months (which might be generous for some), then we will miss a lot of pertinent details.  Phoenix brought in Bledsoe while they already had Dragic.  Hence, the logic that they will gladly let him walk, after trading assets for him (albeit, nothing major), when he is poised to be Kyle Lowry 2.0 is far-fetched to me.  Further, they just brought in Isaiah Thomas and have two other PG's on the roster.

 

To me, this signals a Dragic exit.  Something tells me he isn't a team player.  A good player?  Yes.  However, he strong-armed his way out of Houston (like it or not, that's what happened) and I think Phoenix sees the same thing coming.  He has played very well and is due a raise.  I think Phoenix realizes he will seek a full max deal--and nothing less.  They are going to make it somebody else's problem.  Smart, savvy move on their part.  Bledsoe and Thomas will be a great guard duo.

 

On Rondo, people citing his faults aren't wrong--they're just missing the point in my opinion--the same way they are missing a major point of the Ariza signing.  Fit.  It's about fit.  Very few players in this league lack flaws (are there any?).

 

A quick aside--my wife and I are a great fit together--because we balance one another.  For example, she is a worrier and I'm pretty care-free.  If we were both worriers we'd end up in some weird stress feeding frenzy and end up making each other crazy.  Instead, she can release her concerns and I'm, more or less, unfazed by them.  There are lots of give and takes like this--point is, it is about fit.  She counters my faults and quirks and I hers.

 

So, with that in mind, think about our beloved Rockets.  Rondo, with his suspect shot, free throw shooting, and attitude is still an excellent fit next to Harden.  First and foremost, he adds a coach on the floor.  For all of you who decry McHale's lack of play-calling and any semblance of direction in the offense--with Rondo that problem is largely solved as he naturally directs the offense and puts people in position to succeed.

 

How huge is that?  >------------------ -------------------<   THIS HUGE!  He will bend the defense and allow Harden, Howard, Jones, and Ariza to get easier looks than usual.  Typically, that directly affects efficiency measures like fg% and tov%.  More good things.  He will alleviate a lot of Harden's burden in initiating the offense--more energy for other stuff.

 

He brings toughness, leadership, and championship pedigree in an elite athlete who is at an age where he sees the window closing and will be on the same page as Dwight in his willingness to do anything to get to the finals.

 

His arrival moves Bev to the bench.  More than likely he plays there for a year and then we move him to a team looking for a bulldog PG in exchange for a future draft pick.  Good for him.  Until then, he hounds weaker opposing back-up PG's and makes our second unit much stronger.  Actually, it wouldn't surprise me if he stayed here on a $3-$4M contract....just seems like that kind of guy.

 

Rondo gets to the rim at will so his perimeter shooting is not a big issue.  Like Howard, his free throw shooting is weak, but teams only have so many fouls to give and with Harden and Howard already being league leaders teams cannot afford to start fouling him too--if they do then we can beat up on their reserves.

 

He's not perfect by any measure, but his arrival here would significantly improve our team across the board--to championship levels.  This means, when Jones, Motie, etc's contracts come up we can re-sign them over the cap with Bird Rights.

 

The only question is what it costs to get him.  Obviously, Ainge is holding tight to his biggest trade chip.  We can be patient.  We aren't desperate.  Rondo can be acquired free and clear after this season--no reason to over-pay in a trade.

 

Edit: a letter

[slick shoes]

Sometimes it seems as if people think free agency is like going to the grocery store.

 

Yeah, ummmm, let's get one of those top shelf point guards.  No, not that one.  Grab the Bledsoe....annnnnnd we're gonna want more shooting guard.  No, not the Stephenson...it upsets my stomach.  This Meeks is way over-priced.  Forget it, we've got a Troy Daniels at home already.

 

I'm still upset we didn't get that Bosh.  It was the only one and some other jerk offered more money for it at the last second.  It should have been ours!  We saw it first!

 

I tell you what, let's just grab a bunch of these discount power forwards and small-ish centers, take them to the farmers' market and we can trade for one of their nice Kevin Loves.

 

If we don't look at things with a larger window than, say, 10 months (which might be generous for some), then we will miss a lot of pertinent details.  Phoenix brought in Bledsoe while they already had Dragic.  Hence, the logic that they will gladly let him walk, after trading assets for him (albeit, nothing major), when he is poised to be Kyle Lowry 2.0 is far-fetched to me.  Further, they just brought in Isaiah Thomas and have two other PG's on the roster.

 

To me, this signals a Dragic exit.  Something tells me he isn't a team player.  A good player?  Yes.  However, he strong-armed his way out of Houston (like it or not, that's what happened) and I think Phoenix sees the same thing coming.  He has played very well and is due a raise.  I think Phoenix realizes he will seek a full max deal--and nothing less.  They are going to make it somebody else's problem.  Smart, savvy move on their part.  Bledsoe and Thomas will be a great guard duo.

 

On Rondo, people citing his faults aren't wrong--they're just missing the point in my opinion--the same way they are missing a major point of the Ariza signing.  Fit.  It's about fit.  Very few players in this league lack flaws (are there any?).

 

A quick aside--my wife and I are a great fit together--because we balance one another.  For example, she is a worrier and I'm pretty care-free.  If we were both worriers we'd end up in some weird stress feeding frenzy and end up making each other crazy.  Instead, she can release her concerns and I'm, more or less, unfazed by them.  There are lots of give and takes like this--point is, it is about fit.  She counters my faults and quirks and I hers.

 

So, with that in mind, think about our beloved Rockets.  Rondo, with his suspect shot, free throw shooting, and attitude is still an excellent fit next to Harden.  First and foremost, he adds a coach on the floor.  For all of you who decry McHale's lack of play-calling and any semblance of direction in the offense--with Rondo that problem is largely solved as he naturally directs the offense and puts people in position to succeed.

 

How huge is that?  >------------------ -------------------<   THIS HUGE!  He will bend the defense and allow Harden, Howard, Jones, and Ariza to get easier looks than usual.  Typically, that directly effects efficiency measures like fg% and tov%.  More good things.  He will alleviate a lot of Harden's burden in initiating the offense--more energy for other stuff.

 

He brings toughness, leadership, and championship pedigree in an elite athlete who is at an age where he sees the window closing and will be on the same page as Dwight in his willingness to do anything to get to the finals.

 

His arrival moves Bev to the bench.  More than likely he plays there for a year and then we move him to a team looking for a bulldog PG in exchange for a future draft pick.  Good for him.  Until then, he hounds weaker opposing back-up PG's and makes our second unit much stronger.  Actually, it wouldn't surprise me if he stayed here on a $3-$4M contract....just seems like that kind of guy.

 

Rondo gets to the rim at will so his perimeter shooting is not a big issue.  Like Howard, his free throw shooting is weak, but teams only have so many fouls to give and with Harden and Howard already being league leaders teams cannot afford to start fouling him too--if they do then we can beat up on their reserves.

 

He's not perfect by any measure, but his arrival here would significantly improve our team across the board--to championship levels.  This means, when Jones, Motie, etc's contracts come up we can re-sign them over the cap with Bird Rights.

 

The only question is what it costs to get him.  Obviously, Ainge is holding tight to his biggest trade chip.  We can be patient.  We aren't desperate.  Rondo can be acquired free and clear after this season--no reason to over-pay in a trade.

 

Once again, you make my point but much more eloquently. I'm starting to like you, JG

[thejohnnygold]

Once again, you make my point but much more eloquently. I'm starting to like you, JG

 

You set 'em up...I'll knock 'em down 

[Steven]

Once again, you make my point but much more eloquently. I'm starting to like you, JG

The bow-tie has special powers.

[slick shoes]

The bow-tie has special powers.

 

Bully blinders?

[dkh750il]

rondo works- everything jg said. he is a rebound grabbing, playmaking, ball stealing, in your face, bow to no one, double double machine that will stretch the floor- AND fill out the roster better so we can have multiple effective line ups. They guy plays 35 minutes in his career 4 seasons in a row (last season no, due to injury) He is a machine!
starters
ariza/harden- perimeter threat
dwight/rondo/jones- inside threat

you can mix him in with small ball line ups with troy daniels/bev give harden a rest. etc.

Rondo gives HOU a lot of options on the floor both offensive and defensively.

[slick shoes]

rondo works- everything jg said. he is a rebound grabbing, playmaking, ball stealing, in your face, bow to no one, double double machine that will stretch the floor- AND fill out the roster better so we can have multiple effective line ups. They guy plays 35 minutes in his career 4 seasons in a row (last season no, due to injury) He is a machine!
starters
ariza/harden- perimeter threat
dwight/rondo/jones- inside threat

you can mix him in with small ball line ups with troy daniels/bev give harden a rest. etc.

Rondo gives HOU a lot of options on the floor both offensive and defensively.

 

Dude, don't underestimate Dwight's perimeter game:

 

[dkh750il]

slick shoes- lol. I remember that game.

Even the sun shines on a dog's a^^ some days. :)

[Dayak]

Parsons and his silly pump fake may go to the Mavs, I'm not gonna miss him. Thanks for what he did for us but he simply overpaid and will be the scapegoat of the Mavs beside the Elite PG "the greatest" Raymond Felton.

If we don't get a backup PG for PBev, i believe we'll see Nick Johnson as our backup PG before the allstar game, or maybe sooner. Canaan? He is not a good fit next to Harden.

Edited by Dayak, 16 July 2014 - 07:06 PM.

[thejohnnygold]

Why isn't Canaan a good fit?

[rockets best fan]

@JG

I agree with you on this point.......many underestimate what a real floor general PG can do to our team. I like Rondo. the players most benefited by a real PG would be D-12 and T-Jones. I can't tell you how many times I see one or the other get loose under the bucket and we are to busy standing around outside dribbling the ball. we need to get that ball away from Harden. I don't mind him handling some PG duties, but we need to cut that time as much as possible. we need someone who can use the weapons we already have

[Cooper]

Canaan can't defend, him with Harden for more than spot min would likely get Howard in foul trouble.

[thejohnnygold]

Canaan can't defend, him with Harden for more than spot min would likely get Howard in foul trouble.

 

I guess they'll just have to outscore everyone 

[Steven]

I guess they'll just have to outscore everyone

Sounds like fun, entertaining basketball to me.

[houcmg38]

Once again, you make my point but much more eloquently. I'm starting to like you, JG

[dkh750il]

per bleacher- it will be tough to get rondo.

http://bleacherrepor...evin-love-trade

[slick shoes]

per bleacher- it will be tough to get rondo.

http://bleacherrepor...evin-love-trade

 

[houcmg38]

He is actually a great fit for us. Veteran leadership, pass first guard which will mesh well with Howard and Harden's demand for touches, a true floor general which we definitely lack. Understand that shooting is not something that the Rockets lack. The rumor is that any offer extended to Bledsoe will be matched by PHX which is why we either haven't chased him or every attempt has been immediately shot down.

I'd also venture to say that at this point (even with the addition of Bledsoe or Rondo) we will be ousted in the first round unless defense becomes a priority for this team.