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@  Mario Peña : (10 October 2015 - 01:12 PM) If your part if the Red94 Fantasy Basketball League check the thread to vote for the date and time for the draft event. Thanks y'all!
@  jorgeaam : (07 October 2015 - 08:47 PM) Guys we need 1 more owner for the Red94 fantasy league, if interested please comment on the post in the fantasy basketball thread
@  slick shoes : (07 October 2015 - 06:50 PM) Kobe ranked one spot higher than Ariza? Is this based on legacy or...??
@  slick shoes : (07 October 2015 - 04:13 PM) It was hard to keep up with both the Astros and Rockets at the same time. Should be interesting on Thursday with the Texans and Astros on simultaneously.
@  Mario Peña : (07 October 2015 - 04:09 PM) It was fun to have the Rockets on last night! Right now I'm watching the Celtics versus Milan and Alessandro Gentile is impressive.
@  jorgeaam : (06 October 2015 - 07:47 PM) Well, thinking twice about it, I'd rather have him score less and have the team as a whole do better. Lawson should take a lot of his load off
@  jorgeaam : (06 October 2015 - 07:47 PM) Loving that, hope he hits 30 PPG this year
@  thejohnnygold : (06 October 2015 - 06:15 PM) Someone is feeling confident :) : LINK
@  jorgeaam : (06 October 2015 - 05:54 PM) 10 Teams done, will need 2 more
@  Mario Peña : (06 October 2015 - 02:35 PM) Alright guys, if anyone is interested in joining the Red94 fantasy basketball league we could use one more player to get us to 10 teams (or three to get us to 12 teams). Just check the thread in the Fantasy Basketball forum. Thanks!
@  thejohnnygold : (05 October 2015 - 06:23 PM) I use leaguepass here in Austin with no problems...
@  skip 2 my lou : (05 October 2015 - 03:14 PM) Hey fellas, I'm a rocket fan but I live in the heart of Dallas. Does anybody know if I buy NBA Leaguepass if it's too close to be subject to blackouts?
@  Losthief : (02 October 2015 - 02:24 AM) tks jg
@  thejohnnygold : (29 September 2015 - 05:16 AM) FYI, it was media day today. Interviews are up at NBA.com
@  slick shoes : (23 September 2015 - 06:37 PM) kind of late in the day but NBATV is broadcasting classis Rockets games all day today.
@  SadLakerFan : (16 September 2015 - 04:37 AM) Man, as a Laker fan, I'm learning how little you care about the off season when your team sucks. Anyway, a quick moment to remember Moses. Still remember watching the 81 team as a kid - losing record, NBA Finals. I would have cried w/joy if they could have beaten the Celtics.
@  jorgeaam : (15 September 2015 - 08:30 PM) http://bleacherrepor...ist-after-crash
@  jorgeaam : (15 September 2015 - 08:30 PM) So to celebrate his new contract, Montrezl Harrell saved someone's life on monday
@  thejohnnygold : (14 September 2015 - 04:36 PM) A good article from Blinebury talking about when Hakeem and Moses used to play in the park. LINK
@  rockets best... : (14 September 2015 - 02:29 AM) I agree totally. I got to watch his Rocket days and the man was a hell of a player. BIG MO R.I.P.

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A Warning to Celtics Fans

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#1 TwistedNematic

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    Posted 28 January 2012 - 11:34 PM

    I'm sure that Celtics fans have heard the trade rumors swirling around Paul Pierce. One such trade which was recently discussed on this blog involved our own Kevin Martin and Patrick Patterson. Through reader commentary, it became clear that we as fans were not interested in such a deal. After all, Pierce can't have more than 2 maybe 3 years left in the tank. But I would like to take a moment and warn Celtics fans that this is not a player they should trade away under almost any circumstance.

    Drafted in 1998, Paul Pierce has worn a Celtic jersey for his entire NBA career. He stuck with the team through thick and thin, most notably the losing seasons and early playoff exits of his prime during the early 2000s. (Granted that was a day and age where ever team had one superstar and every superstar had one team) He openly welcomed the addition of new talent, (Boston's Big Three was the death of team loyalty in the NBA, before then trading superstars while they were in the prime was an enormous deal, ie Abdul Jabbar and Moses Malone), and alongside Allen and Garnett he led the Celtics to their first NBA championship in 22 years. He will undoubtedly retire and be remembered as a Celtic. After all this man has done for your amazing city, would you really want to move him in hopes of completely turning your team around in a lockout shortened season. The Celtics will have to rebuild eventually, most likely in one or two years actually. I would be shocked if their Big Three were still playing in three years. As a city, wouldn't Boston want to watch Pierce's last NBA game in a Celtics jersey? I'm going to go ahead and say the answer is yes because we as Rockets fans have lived through the agonizing pain of watching the franchise player best athelete who has ever represented our city retire wearing another jersey.

    Hakeem Olajuwon is why I'm a Rockets fan today. He did everything; hung around with the team through early playoff exits and losing seasons due to a weak supporting cast, led us to the promised land (twice) and set way too many statistical records to mention here. After everything Houston and Hakeem had been through, watching him wither away in a Toronto Raptors jersey was pure torture. I was younger at the time and I did not understand the move at all, as I've grown older and learned more about draft picks and contracts, my position on that trade remains unchanged. Do you know what we got for Hakeem? A draft pick that led to Bostjan Nachbar, a total bust who's wasting away in some Russian D-league right now. Hakeem had requested the trade due to the front office being cheap. Next time the greatest player who has ever worn a Rockets jersey asks for a max offer, you give it to him. At this point, its not about winning or rebuilding or drafting or next season. This is one of the few times that sports transcends winning and statistics. This is about a city's admiration for a man. Out of all the Rockets games I've yelled, cheered and bled through; loss to the Jazz in the playoffs, the early exits with Tmac, including that Game 7 blowout in Dallas, the end of the 22 game losing streak (guess who we lost too?), the news that Yao was done while we were battling the Lakers in round 2 and the lakers opening night come back which ruined the whole season last year, the worst moment of being a Rockets fan was when I turned on the TV and saw this:


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    So Boston, you won your trophy and had your fun. Pierce stood by when the going got tough, now its your turn. Are you gonna make a move for one more playoff appearance or are you going be there when its time for Pierce to say goodbye?
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    #2 FelixPR

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    Posted 30 January 2012 - 04:12 AM

    I agree on the notion that Pierce should never leave the Celtic green. I know the front office finds it appealing to squeeze whatever value he has by trading him to another team but it is cold blooded. However, the NBA is a business. This is what many people will say. A lot of people will bemoan Pierce's contract and use it as a scapegoat if the Celtics can't rebuild in time. That is a superficial thought. Pierce is still productive. His contract while surpasses his skills is not something like the Arenas contract where you have been overpaying for years to a broken player. I think the Celtics owe it to Pierce to have him play out his remaining contract with them. If he wants to continue playing? Sign him up to a small deal with the end result being that he retires with the team that drafted him.
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      Posted 30 January 2012 - 09:47 AM

      Sentimentality in its purest form. I too would like Pierce to hang up his jersey as a Celtic. Danny Ainge is reportedly shopping the Big Three at the right price, so these aren't baseless rumors that are floating around. To digress, here are four trade scenarios raised by Green Street.

      So here's my two cents: find deals for Garnett, Allen, and/or Rondo if any come up, those three are producing. But Pierce should be kept untouchable.
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      Posted 30 January 2012 - 01:19 PM

      Exactly my thought. You aim to trade anyone else before Pierce. Though the Celtics would find it easier to move Allen (great shooters rarely go out of style) but Garnett is a tall task. KG seems to have no legs, which is expected, considering the heavy minutes he logged. Who would realistically trade for him? A contender that needs a few minutes of defense and passion? For curiosity sake I would not mind seeing him on the Spurs. Have KG come off the bench and split the minutes equally with Duncan or start with Duncan sliding to the Center spot. Ancient Twin Towers!
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        Posted 30 January 2012 - 02:44 PM

        I remember the year that Hakeem Olajuwon called into the weekly segment Rudy Tomjanovich had on sports radio, to apologize for saying something to the effect of, "Maybe I should go play for the Heat. Pat Riley knows how to treat a center." They got all gushy right there in my radio... Very surreal. After that, you just knew it was going to end badly. Seeing Dream in Toronto purple was stranger for me, than seeing Jordan in Washington blue. Maybe, that's because purple always looks strange to me.
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        #6 Rahat Huq

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          Posted 31 January 2012 - 01:16 AM

          I think it was 2000 when the Raptors offered the #5, the #12, Doug Christie, and Zan Tabak for Hakeem. An insane package for a guy who was on the way down. From a purely basketball perspective, it was basically a no-brainer for a team in rebuilding. Of course, we didn't go through with it after the fan backlash (only to later deal him away for what was a far worse package.)

          I was like 14 at the time, and I was 100% in favor of that deal. But if it were a similar circumstance now, I don't think that would be the case. I was really too young to appreciate Hakeem and what those titles meant. For example, if it were the case that Arian Foster had spent his entire career here for 10 years, had led the Texans to two Superbowl victories and now was being shopped, I wouldn't want him traded.
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          Posted 04 February 2012 - 05:27 PM

          I couldn't agree more. Hakeem was the reason I started watching NBA basketball and the reason I've been a Rockets fan from day one (which was, you guessed it, 1994). He deserved better than to spend his last year in another jersey and all Rockets fans deserved better than to see him depart. Bad, bad decision.
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          #8 Rahat Huq

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            Posted 05 February 2012 - 01:20 AM

            I remember the year that Hakeem Olajuwon called into the weekly segment Rudy Tomjanovich had on sports radio, to apologize for saying something to the effect of, "Maybe I should go play for the Heat. Pat Riley knows how to treat a center." They got all gushy right there in my radio... Very surreal. After that, you just knew it was going to end badly. Seeing Dream in Toronto purple was stranger for me, than seeing Jordan in Washington blue. Maybe, that's because purple always looks strange to me.

            I never knew about this. I wonder if there is audio of this clip in the archives somewhere.
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