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[thenit]

I disagree. part of being a good scorer is knowing what shots to take, and where to take them from. Melo is a better bad shot maker, but Harden (most of the time) just refuses to take bad shots. Harden knows its better to pass to someone else than taking a bad shot. Being a good scorer includes knowing when not to score.

 

He refuses to take bad shots but loves to bounce the ball just in front of the half court until its 5 sec and less on the shot clock to give up the bad shots to another team mate. He does this 3-5 times a game. I hate that aspect of his game. And he does take bad shots once in a while and make poor decision when he goes into iso and hero mode.

 

He is still the superior offensive player and a top 5 offensively.

Edited by thenit, 02 January 2014 - 11:17 PM.

[RudyT1995]

I wonder what the Rockets could get for him.  

[thenit]

It has to be fringe allstar young player plus 2 first and a prospects at least

[Mason Khamvilay]

If we can get Love for Harden I would be all for it.

[thenit]

I don't know if I'll do that trade. Not sure Minnesota would want that either

[Steven]

I don't know if I'll do that trade. Not sure Minnesota would want that either

Love has an ETO and is leaving Minnesota this offseason. Minnesota would defiantly do it.

[RudyT1995]

That trade would have made more sense to Minny before they traded away Derrick Williams.  If they did it now, they'd have to find a starting PF on top of finding a taker for Kevin Martin and his $28 mil contract. 

 

Steven, I think Love has an out in 2015, not 2014.  

Edited by RudyT1995, 03 January 2014 - 12:58 AM.

[thenit]

Love has an ETO and is leaving Minnesota this offseason. Minnesota would defiantly do it.

Yea wasn't aware of that. Then sure they would jump all over it. Do you think we can get love without trading harden and Howard before the deadline if min falls out of the race the coming few weeks?

[Cooper]

Love's eto is summer of 15 but that's an interesting idea.

[RollingWave]

No one's untradable, I think it's very unlikely that they trade Harden, but certainly there ARE deals where you would do it.

 

For example, if the Heat says Lebron (agreeing to extension or not opting out) for Harden and a first, you do that without blinking at all.

[linonlyfan]

Funny espn article on Minnesota today. Seems like they are pretty happy with their setup atm.

 

http://espn.go.com/b...swer-for-wolves

 

I think given the spotty record of trading all-star calibre players, Daryl Morey will try to avoid this situation as far as possible. Harden is young, as much as there are many things he doesn't do well (along with many things he does do well), there is time to learn and grow. I think the team needs some playoff heartbreak in the 2nd round (1st round exits are way too hopeless and easier to give up on) to really force the team to grow not just as individuals but as a team.

 

Actually I think the ball is in Hardens hands too much, he will benefit from being off the ball and getting more catch and shoot 3pt opportunities or attacking off the dribble off a quick catch. He always seems to be too much in a hurry to get the ball, and sometimes the action doesn't develop properly and we get into a ISO like situation. I wouldn't mind seeing a more conventional post oriented offence for 3 quarters before the 4th becomes Harden time with him having a good shooting rhythm from catch and shoots and opportunistic drives. Put him on the weak side wing to start and he can get his points on kick outs and cuts.

 

I think management will let the season play out unless form really dives and forces their hands. The whole setup is quite promising and it makes little sense to blow anything up unless Houston gets a outrageous phone call. I get the impression only the Raptors seem likely to be giving away assets and have suddenly hit a roll.

[Sir Thursday]

Following Strauss on twitter, I've noticed he likes to make pointed/controversial statements like this. This is pretty much par for the course for him. It's not completely without basis, but I don't see it as a particularly likely outcome.

 

ST

[miketheodio]

i think mchale gets fired before a major talent like harden gets traded

[Mason Khamvilay]

I'm surprised how many people are taking this seriously

[Mason Khamvilay]

Strauss is a smart guy, I respect his opinions, but like Sir Thursday said he likes to be controversial. I read his prediction with tongue in cheek.

[timetodienow1234567]

The only players that are worth giving up Harden are

Lebron
Durant
George
Davis
Maybe LMA

Seeing as none of these guys are available Harden isn't going anywhere.

[rocketrick]

I don't think I would trade Harden for LaMarcus Aldridge or Anthony Davis or Kevin Love. We would be too top heavy in the 4 and 5 positions and too light in the guard position. Successful teams have a more balanced roster. Remember, Harden is considered as the top SG (2) in the NBA right now because of the skillset he brings to the floor.

Edited by rocketrick, 04 January 2014 - 01:06 AM.

[Cooper]

Could easily trade jones for a competent SG if that situation ever arose.

[rocketrick]

Could easily trade jones for a competent SG if that situation ever arose.

Really? OK, who? Remember, T Jones is on a rookie contract.

[thejohnnygold]

Earlier today I was pondering a trade of Harden+Asik to Washington for John Wall and Nene.

 

I like the trade for us as it gives us a solid back-up center who should be able to stay healthy playing short minutes behind Dwight.  The move requires Lin to move to the starting SG spot which I like a lot.  He's no Harden, but he can score and handle that position fine for us.  Wall gives us a better pure PG who can score, pass, and defend his position.

 

Washington doesn't make this trade so the whole thing is moot....but I thought it was an interesting idea.  Harden is a great player, but I think that trade would make our team better overall.