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Why is Morey considered a great GM?


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Posted 01 January 2012 - 01:23 PM

Hey all - great site, have been reading for a while.

One thing I've been wondering for a while is why Morey is considered such a great GM around the league. This isn't meant to hate on the guy or as negativity but just out of curiosity.

The Rockets haven't done anything while he's been GM. Sure he makes alot of trades but how many of them have really been that good? The only one I can really think of off the top of my head is Luis Scola. What did the T-Mac trade do for us after all of the talk of how great it was.

He hasn't been able to get a star and noone wants to play for our team because of the way its perceived he views players.

I don't really see how this team is any better because of Morey or how they will get any better.

So can anyone tell me why Morey is considered so great?
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Posted 02 January 2012 - 02:49 AM

Name a trade that has been really bad. The Terrence Williams trade would be about the only one, and even that one has to be given an incomplete as we see what happens with him.

Every move he makes seems to be a solid move forward. He was dealt an aging roster saddled with huge contracts and a mandate to stay competitive and has done a good job. What would you have done?
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Posted 02 January 2012 - 06:03 PM

Name a trade that has been really bad. The Terrence Williams trade would be about the only one, and even that one has to be given an incomplete as we see what happens with him.

Every move he makes seems to be a solid move forward. He was dealt an aging roster saddled with huge contracts and a mandate to stay competitive and has done a good job. What would you have done?

Shouldn't someone be judged by their results? He hasn't gotten us a superstar or any free agents. And the team has probably gotten worse during his time here.
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Posted 03 January 2012 - 01:28 AM

Agreed with the OP. I think I was the best GM in Rockets history. :)
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Posted 06 January 2012 - 09:08 PM

-He traded Rafer Alston for Kyle Lowry
-He drafted Landry in the second round and turned him into Kevin Martin
-He traded Vassilis Spanoulis for Luis Scola
-He traded Scola and Martin for 4-time all-star Pau Gasol and opened space for signing Nene, thus turning a second round pick and Spanoulis into Pau Gasol and Nene*

Even though the rest of the league has just about caught up to him with advanced stats, he still makes good moves that keep the team competitive despite stars getting hurt and mediocre draft position.

*whoops
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Posted 08 January 2012 - 04:34 PM

What about trading Battier for Thabet? That was just dumb? How bout all the guys who have changed teams that we missed out on? The list is crazy, you have had teams just straight up give away better players than we have, i.e. Odom, Gerald Walace, Vince Carter, etc and the free agents i.e. lebron, boozer, stoudemire, bosch, ne ne, david west,, etc. and then all the trades we couldn't get in on i.e. chris paul, carmelo, pau gasolq, derron williams, etc.

I think the guy is obviously smart, but he obviously lacks the finesse to be a GM of the 4th largest city in the country. I mean most of the NBA guys have homes in Houston, but we can't get anyone good to take our money to play for the rockets. What gives???
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    Posted 09 January 2012 - 07:43 PM

    We got a first round pick out of the Thabeet trade, and Battier was an unrestricted free agent anyway so went to the Heat. Got a first-round pick for 23 games of Battier. Not bad.

    Odom and Wallace were steals, but we didn't know they were on the market for those prices. Besides, you can't expect the Rockets to get every single great deal out there - all GMs are somewhat talented or they wouldn't have their jobs. If you think Vince Carter is better than the players we have, then you haven't seen him play since 2001.

    We are actually well positioned to get a solid star-caliber player out of this draft and build with a good core of young players. Could work out afterall.
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    Posted 10 January 2012 - 11:04 PM

    The only real trouble I have with Morey right now is the collection of talent with no minutes. I would take our 11-15 guys versus any in the league, but that doesn't do you much good if they can't get on the floor. Then, you can't trade them because nobody has seen them. I am just frustrated to see Scola, Hill, Patterson, Morris all at the 4 position, but we have to start Budinger (like him off the bench, don't get me wrong, but no team will ever be a big time winner with him in the starting rotation. - nbazonepress.blogspot.com
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      Posted 11 January 2012 - 05:37 AM

      The only real trouble I have with Morey right now is the collection of talent with no minutes. I would take our 11-15 guys versus any in the league, but that doesn't do you much good if they can't get on the floor. Then, you can't trade them because nobody has seen them. I am just frustrated to see Scola, Hill, Patterson, Morris all at the 4 position, but we have to start Budinger (like him off the bench, don't get me wrong, but no team will ever be a big time winner with him in the starting rotation. - nbazonepress.blogspot.com

      I don't think any of these guys are untradeable, and if they were, it's not for teams not having seen them. These clubs spend king's ransoms on scouting departments.

      Every guy on this roster is easily tradeable. They just haven't been desired in blockbuster deals for superstars because none of them is that 'blue-chip' talent like an Eric Gordon. But they can all be easily moved and have some value. (outside of Flynn).
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      Posted 12 January 2012 - 04:51 AM

      Morey is a good GM simply for the fact that we have not been burdened by a huge contract that sucks the life out of this team (Yao and T-mac were before his time).

      He has done the best he could with the pieces he has. It sucks that we have not been able to acquire a superstar but some factors are beyond his influence. Morey managed to acquire a collection of assets that can contribute to many teams. Sadly no trade has materialized (Except for the Trade That Shall Not Be Mentioned) and we are in the awkward position in where we have too many players.

      That is crazy in itself. Looking back at the rosters from the early T-Mac/Yao era, it was sad. I assume Morey's main goal was to build a team around his superstars. Not a crappy team (Hello Orlando, Knicks, etc...) but a team where you could argue that our bench is as strong as many starters in other teams. However our stars broke. Should Morey had traded T-Mac sooner for better pieces? Maybe. It is a gamble. What if T-Mac had recovered from his ailments and continued to have a few more 20+/5/5 seasons? People would be singing a different tune. obviously that didn't happen. Should Morey had traded Yao before he broke down? Maybe. But centers were always a difficult commodity to gain. Especially all-star centers. It would have been different to let go the best or second best center in the league with that lingering doubt in your mind that maybe he could pull it back together. Obviously doesn't take into consideration Les' involvement and his opinion on trading T-Mac and Yao.

      All in all, Morey has never made me embarrassed that he was our GM. He has made some small questionable moves and it is easy to bemoan all the players we missed but without knowing the specific workings of the front office there is no way to know how things fell apart. Morey has worked well within the limitations of the team and organization. I know the inner need to see results immediately. We live in a fast paced world and sometimes it is hard to focus on the small details. I will say that if Morey doesn't find something great either via draft, trade or free agency, then we might be complaining about a different GM in a few years.

      Side-note. I am super glad we never got Vince Carter. I don't care if we would have traded T-Mac's corpse for Carter. There is no way that Carter would have put enough effort in the games to justify looking at his stupid beard.
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      Posted 05 March 2012 - 01:55 AM

      Morey is considered a great GM for one reasons- his resume. Its just that simple, based on his education, moneyball approach and insights he has provided to the game.
      However his geeksquad stats has failed to translate into the game. He gets a c off the top for being a gm. For someone who is supposedlly so smart, he let Rudy Gay and Nicholas Batum go right after drafting them.
      Now when you consider the C grade and factor in the fact that about all the praise and glory he has received over the years, that grade comes down to a D-, simply cos he has not lived up to expectations.
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      Posted 12 March 2012 - 09:09 PM

      I think he was the bell of the ball of new wave stats geeks. IMO, he would be better as the 2nd in charge, as his lack of interpersonal management has rubbed the players the wrong way, and thus is undermining him as a GM, IMO.

      He has some hits and some misses.

      Batum for Donte Green for example, and not drafting a bevy of bigs like Jordan and Asik when they were available....and then this year Marcus Morris....who is getting severly outplayed by Battier 2.0 Chandler Parsons.

      So for me, he is an ok GM, but his lack of relationships around the league and seemingly overvaluing of his players makes him a decent but not great one.

      And by him not trading Yao when his contract was covered by insurance was his worst move yet.

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