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#1 Knickabokkaz

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    Posted 06 August 2013 - 07:23 PM

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    There are some players in the NBA that need to feel a certain sense of involvement. For example, if a big man runs the floor and plays hard on D, we reward him by getting him the ball in an opportunity to score say on a fast break, a couple of post ups, alley-oops etc. 


    There are point guard like Jeremy Lin who need that sense of "involvement" and "opportunity". Something that wasn't given to him by McHale. 2 years ago there was a scouting report said by I think his college coach. "Jeremy tends to take himself out the game sometimes". Why is that? Well when you feel your of use to a team, you know that direction as to what you need to do and a direction on what you need to do to succeed.  Jeremy didn't have that for MOST of last year and looked lost for atleast 1/2 the season.


    There are players in the league that are given more opportunity then others of course.  Me and Rahat have expressed "opportunity" for Jeremy Lin and how the only way he can prove to be worth $8 million is to give him that opportunity. Jeremy seems to play BETTER when he feels like he has to do MORE, otherwise he kind of looks lost and takes himself out of the game.


    Here are some stats to prove my theory. In ONLY 18 games where he's had more then 14 or more SHOT attempts (meaning asked to do MORE then a traditional PG, feeling involved, having an opportunity). The stats don't lie…

     

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    Average Results in 18 games with 14 shot attempts or MORE:

    1. 21 PPG

    2. 7 Assists

    3. 48.8% FG% 


    Unlike MOST players, anyone who usually shoots MORE would have a LOWER FG%. In Jeremy's case, his FG% is actually HIGHER. 


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    Posted 06 August 2013 - 08:31 PM

    Nice post.  While it is a small sample, the evidence is compelling.  I'd also like to note that he did not do this solely against the bottom-feeders of the league.  There are a lot of quality teams there...Yes, I see Orlando, Phoenix, and Minnesota....I also see OKC, SAS, GSW, BKN, DEN, and ATL.

     

    I tried to avert my eyes from his turnovers, but they are a glaring problem.  We all know Houston as a team had a TO problem.  I think we all expect to see improvement across the board this season.  In fairness, he also posted some amazing ast/to games in there as well.

     

    I also like that in only 3 games did he shoot more than 6 free throws.  In one regard, it's not good because he isn't getting to the line very often--which is generally a good thing.  On the other hand, I love that he is able to produce without leaning on the referees.  Sometimes, especially with superstars, I think the refs should be credited with assists on some of the foul calls.  I bet Morey has stats on that ;)


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      Posted 06 August 2013 - 08:39 PM

      A lot of his turnovers contributed to Asik's inability to catch the down low or communication problem.

      At the same time, we can say why he was passing the ball down low if he knew Asik can't catch it. (hee hee I have to write this second line before non-believers say something like this)  :)


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        Posted 06 August 2013 - 08:49 PM

        People might not see it but Lins biggest problem is not his shooting, not his dribbling, it's his confidence. The coaches #1-3 priority if you want him to succeed is to build that up. That's why Lin says McFail all the time. As mention by Rahat before

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          Posted 06 August 2013 - 08:53 PM

          Lin should feel more involved or active when he's getting more shots, who wouldn't. I'd certainly rather have harden or Dwight getting 14+shots per game more than Lin maybe Lin can get closer to that number being more aggressive when harden or Dwight is off the floor though, as parsons is probably the only other guy that should be getting double digit shot attempts.
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          Posted 06 August 2013 - 09:01 PM

          I think Lin will have improved his 3 point shot enough that he will get tons of wide open 3s as teams double on James or Dwight. I hope he shoots them without hesitation. THAT'S what killed him last year. Hesitation is anathema to upper tier PGs.
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          Why so Serious? :D


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            Posted 06 August 2013 - 09:11 PM

            Here's the over looking FACT here.. look at Lin's FG%. Its at 48.8% for the season when he shoots 14+ shots a game. And that's not excluding any bad games, all those games that you see in that Stats list are ALL the games 14+shots.

             

            My point is.. you see guys like Tony Parker, Westbrook, DRose, all these athletic "scoring" pg's. They all have the green light. What amuses me is that McHale doesnt give Jeremy the green light like these other guys. Yet fans expect to see those types of number those 3 guys put up.


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              Posted 06 August 2013 - 09:14 PM

              I think Lin will have improved his 3 point shot enough that he will get tons of wide open 3s as teams double on James or Dwight. I hope he shoots them without hesitation. THAT'S what killed him last year. Hesitation is anathema to upper tier PGs.

              That leads to confidence and unselfishness... he's going to learn he has to take those shots but he's also worried and he's mentioned this.  He does not want to be seen as a ball hog, he's mentioned that in an interview I heard a couple of months back. He has to just be selfish sometimes.


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                Posted 06 August 2013 - 09:42 PM

                @JG the TOs are also a result in style of play, they play fast but yes he does need to be a little more self conscious. Someone needs to tell Harden that as well. On a positive, given the minimal usage rate he's had (20%) 6.1 assists for the season is actually pretty good considering he aint even the primary ball handler.
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                Posted 06 August 2013 - 09:48 PM

                I should have been more specific--it's the assist to turnover ratio that gets me.  One night he has 11 assists and 1 turnover.  Another it is 4 and 4.  Another is 9 and 6.  Unfortunately, there are more of the bad ones than the good ones.  I understand pace adds possessions, but the overall ratio should balance out.  I'd like to see him stay at a steady +2.5 or better.


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                  Posted 06 August 2013 - 09:51 PM

                  Here's the over looking FACT here.. look at Lin's FG%. Its at 48.8% for the season when he shoots 14+ shots a game. And that's not excluding any bad games, all those games that you see in that Stats list are ALL the games 14+shots.

                  My point is.. you see guys like Tony Parker, Westbrook, DRose, all these athletic "scoring" pg's. They all have the green light. What amuses me is that McHale doesnt give Jeremy the green light like these other guys. Yet fans expect to see those types of number those 3 guys put up.

                  I wouldn't compare Lin to Parker rose and Westbrook
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                    Posted 06 August 2013 - 09:58 PM

                    @JG the TOs are also a result in style of play, they play fast but yes he does need to be a little more self conscious. Someone needs to tell Harden that as well. On a positive, given the minimal usage rate he's had (20%) 6.1 assists for the season is actually pretty good considering he aint even the primary ball handler.
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                      Posted 06 August 2013 - 10:00 PM

                      I wouldn't compare Lin to Parker rose and Westbrook


                      I'm not comparing Lin to those players, I'm using them as example of what Lin doesn't get as far as a green light like THOSE players, so how could fans expect those results is what I'm saying
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                      Posted 06 August 2013 - 10:04 PM

                      Here's the over looking FACT here.. look at Lin's FG%. Its at 48.8% for the season when he shoots 14+ shots a game. And that's not excluding any bad games, all those games that you see in that Stats list are ALL the games 14+shots.
                       
                      My point is.. you see guys like Tony Parker, Westbrook, DRose, all these athletic "scoring" pg's. They all have the green light. What amuses me is that McHale doesnt give Jeremy the green light like these other guys. Yet fans expect to see those types of number those 3 guys put up.



                      I agree with Cooper and to be a little more realistic I would frame it as Lin is nowhere near the level of Parker, Rose and Westbrook and never will be.
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                      Posted 06 August 2013 - 10:07 PM

                      It is sort of common sense that since Lin is not a top tier player then he doesn't get the "green light" you speak of. If I were you I would rephrase your argument there.
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                      Posted 06 August 2013 - 10:07 PM

                      I agree with Cooper and to be a little more realistic I would frame it as Lin is nowhere near the level of Parker, Rose and Westbrook and never will be.

                      you know I agree, but was letting the Lin fans have a day of peace :lol:


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                      you can only warn a man that the bridge is out.....if he keeps driving he's on his own B)


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                        Posted 06 August 2013 - 10:14 PM


                        I'm not comparing Lin to those players, I'm using them as example of what Lin doesn't get as far as a green light like THOSE players, so how could fans expect those results is what I'm saying


                        I guess I misunderstood your point, to be clear I meant he should not have that green of a light and it is unreasonable to expect prouduction similar to those guys as lin's role and talent level is completely different.
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                          Posted 06 August 2013 - 10:52 PM

                          Ok back to the topic?
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                            Posted 06 August 2013 - 11:38 PM

                            Nice job.  I've made this argument before - that Lin is a creature of adrenaline.  He thrives off of emotion (ie: a correlary of opportunity.)  That's why he was so clutch in New York at the end of games.  And of course, the opposite runs true in that he's going to struggle without that.

                             

                            Unfortunately, a team with Lin as its best player isn't going to win anything (not sure if anyone is disputing this point?)  He not only needs to learn how to play slow like the best point guards but also needs to learn how to play when he isn't the be-all end-all.  That shooting percentage at the end of last year was a good start towards that.  


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                            #20 Knickabokkaz

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                              Posted 06 August 2013 - 11:52 PM

                              I think Lin has to be that engine that George Karl stated he was when he played Denver, then Harden can CLOSE in the 4th. He doesn't have to be the best player, but he needs to stay involved. Can he play at a slow pace? Well Lin never played PG in college, look at him now. With D12 yes I believe they can because they are not 1 dimensional. Can play in to out, out to in.

                              Last yr. Lin didn't feel healthy till Jan. and the #s just got better and better.
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