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#21 TheBeardedOne

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    Posted 06 August 2013 - 02:29 AM

    1. Thunder

    2. Spurs

    3. Rockets

    4. Warriors

    5. Clippers

    6. Grizzlies

    7. T-Wolves

    8. Nuggets


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    #22 amacbrooks12

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    Posted 06 August 2013 - 03:32 AM

    RollingWave :

    My standings we're based on non-injuries and how team's roster looks ON PAPER at this moment. Which is why I have the hawks missing out the playoffs because ON PAPER the cavaliers and wizards have a better team. And If you think Paul Millsap is an offensive improvement over Josh Smith you're crazy. I dont even have to argue on that one.

    Buckko :

    People said the same thing last season when the Lakers we're 7 games under .500. You can never count out the Lakers, especially with a hungry/angry Kobe Bryant and no Dwight drama. That is why I have them at that 8th spot.
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    #23 Buckko

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      Posted 06 August 2013 - 03:53 AM

      RollingWave :

      My standings we're based on non-injuries and how team's roster looks ON PAPER at this moment. Which is why I have the hawks missing out the playoffs because ON PAPER the cavaliers and wizards have a better team. And If you think Paul Millsap is an offensive improvement over Josh Smith you're crazy. I dont even have to argue on that one.

      Buckko :

      People said the same thing last season when the Lakers we're 7 games under .500. You can never count out the Lakers, especially with a hungry/angry Kobe Bryant and no Dwight drama. That is why I have them at that 8th spot.

      Dwight carried them that last run and Jazz folded in the last few games. They got lucky and with the Timberwolves coming back, blazers improving, nuggets still in it, NOPin the fight for the last 2 seeds. I will give them 10th seed.


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      #24 RollingWave

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        Posted 06 August 2013 - 05:20 AM

        RollingWave :

        My standings we're based on non-injuries and how team's roster looks ON PAPER at this moment. Which is why I have the hawks missing out the playoffs because ON PAPER the cavaliers and wizards have a better team. And If you think Paul Millsap is an offensive improvement over Josh Smith you're crazy. I dont even have to argue on that one.

        Buckko :

        People said the same thing last season when the Lakers we're 7 games under .500. You can never count out the Lakers, especially with a hungry/angry Kobe Bryant and no Dwight drama. That is why I have them at that 8th spot.

        right, it's crazy to suggest that two players scoring the same per/36 and the player who do it in a considerably more efficient matter is the inferior offensive player.

         

        Josh Smith played more minutes, so there is some value in that, since he is most likely replacing an inferior player in that stretch, but one does have to point out that a. the difference is about 5 minutes, which could easily be the coaches' choice and b. it's very clear as daylight who has the better chance of putting the ball in the basket when it's in their hands, and it's not Josh Smith.

         

        I'll say that I agree Josh Smith has considerably higher talent ceiling, but one has to realize that Millsap realized nearly all of his ceiling while Smith only realized about 60-70% of it.

         

        But we'll see, remember this prediction, unless Hordord / Millsap / Teague suffers considerable injury, the Hawks will pretty comfortably make the playoffs.


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        #25 amacbrooks12

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        Posted 06 August 2013 - 07:21 AM

        RollingWave :

        You could pull out any stat you want, Paul Millsap is NOT better than Josh Smith in any way. And Teague / Millsap / Horford is no playoff team, that is a 9th seed team AT BEST. But I respect your opinion, we will see.
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        #26 amacbrooks12

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        Posted 06 August 2013 - 07:31 AM

        Buckko :

        Dwight carried them that last run? Exactly what run? If you're talking about the "run" after Kobe suffered an achille's injury you're a joke. Because when Kobe suffered his injury the Lakers were already in playoff position. And the Jazz didn't "fold". They had one of the hardest remaining schedules in the league playing numerous playoff teams. That 2012-2013 Jazz roster losing to playoffs teams isn't folding, it's reality. Like I said you can't count out the Lakers.

        Edited by amacbrooks12, 06 August 2013 - 07:33 AM.

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        #27 Buckko

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          Posted 06 August 2013 - 12:56 PM

          Buckko :

          Dwight carried them that last run? Exactly what run? If you're talking about the "run" after Kobe suffered an achille's injury you're a joke. Because when Kobe suffered his injury the Lakers were already in playoff position. And the Jazz didn't "fold". They had one of the hardest remaining schedules in the league playing numerous playoff teams. That 2012-2013 Jazz roster losing to playoffs teams isn't folding, it's reality. Like I said you can't count out the Lakers.

          When you lose at the end, you fold. Doesn't matter if it were good teams. I'm sorry the Wolves, blazers are another talent level than the lackers while nuggets are always in it and NOP already has far better players than the lakers. 


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          Posted 06 August 2013 - 06:10 PM

          Buckko :

          Dwight carried them that last run? Exactly what run? If you're talking about the "run" after Kobe suffered an achille's injury you're a joke. Because when Kobe suffered his injury the Lakers were already in playoff position. And the Jazz didn't "fold". They had one of the hardest remaining schedules in the league playing numerous playoff teams. That 2012-2013 Jazz roster losing to playoffs teams isn't folding, it's reality. Like I said you can't count out the Lakers.

          D-12 may have had help carrying them but his numbers in the second half of the season indicate he was helping to carry them


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          you can only warn a man that the bridge is out.....if he keeps driving he's on his own B)


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          Posted 06 August 2013 - 08:06 PM

          Let's try not to label people as "crazy" or "jokes".  One, it's rude and dismissive.  Two, it is not a valid rebuttal of any argument.

           

          Prove your points.  I know it can feel redundant and providing evidentiary support can be time consuming, but it not only makes your point stronger--it makes it better reading for everyone else.  Like my math teachers constantly reminded me, "Show your work".  It's not enough to stake a claim to the final answer--show how you got there and support that answer with stats, quotes, video, or whatever you can find.

           

          In longer threads, the odds are you can find that information on prior pages and simply quote it into your post.  Be creative.  Be thorough.  Be convincing.  Be respectful.

           

          Thanks.


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          #30 Buckko

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            Posted 06 August 2013 - 11:32 PM

            Buckko :

            Dwight carried them that last run? Exactly what run? If you're talking about the "run" after Kobe suffered an achille's injury you're a joke. Because when Kobe suffered his injury the Lakers were already in playoff position. And the Jazz didn't "fold". They had one of the hardest remaining schedules in the league playing numerous playoff teams. That 2012-2013 Jazz roster losing to playoffs teams isn't folding, it's reality. Like I said you can't count out the Lakers.

            You know when they started winning games is when Dwight began to feel healthy. 


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            #31 timetodienow1234567

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            Posted 09 August 2013 - 04:52 AM

            Yes they are, but supposedly if you have a healthy Kobe / Nash / Pau trio that should at least score enough to compete, but I'm very skeptical of them being able to defend at all, however, I think folks are underselling how good their offense could be, if those 3 are actually effective, all they need to do is to be not a bottom 5 defense to at least be in the 8th seed conversation, I think the odds of all those things lining up is terribly low (aka, the big 3 healthy, effective, AND their defense doesn't suck. ) it doesn't help that their coach is notorious for his inability to coach any semblance of defense.
             

             
            Barring injury, I don't see why the Bucks would finish that bad, people seem to miss that their best player 3 best player last year was Larry Sanders / Ersan Ilyasova and John Henson.  all 3 are still on the team and 2 of them is likely to get better. Monta Ellis for OJ Mayo is a wash essentially, they did downgrade a little going from Jennings to Knight.. maybe (Knight is much better defensively.) but it's not like the Bucks offense were running well with Jennings.  
             
            The Hawks essentially swapped Smith for Paul Milsap which is a lateral move at worst, and maybe even an improvement as Milsap is much more complete offensive player. I can't see them missing the playoffs without injuries.
             
            On the otherhand, I figure for the Wizards or Cavs to make it they need their guys to show better health than they've had in recent years, while I have some confidence in the Wizards, the Cavs is a different story, when your 2 best player played 50 and 0 games last year, penciling them in for anything is a terrible idea.


            Millsap is more efficient, but is not a more complete offensive player. Also Smiths defense is much better than Millsaps
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            #32 RollingWave

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              Posted 09 August 2013 - 05:55 AM

              Millsap is more efficient, but is not a more complete offensive player. Also Smiths defense is much better than Millsaps

               

              let's just say that stats do not back up either of those assessments.


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              #33 timetodienow1234567

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              Posted 09 August 2013 - 12:40 PM

              1) what stat is there to tell who is a more "complete" offensive player
              2) I won't go into the myriad of stats that show one is better than the other.
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                Posted 09 August 2013 - 03:21 PM

                I do have to say if Kyrie continues to develop, Bynum becomes healthy, and Miami heat don't win it in 2014. Lebron goes to Cleveland no doubt about it. Along with the fact of Tristan Thomson and Dion Waiters becoming great players and hopefully Bennett finds a niche. You will have the next great Superpower and the team to  beat in the east.  


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                #35 ale11

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                Posted 09 August 2013 - 06:08 PM

                Guys, you are getting out of topic here, we are talking about the Western Conference...


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                #36 RollingWave

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                  Posted 09 August 2013 - 06:19 PM

                  The odds of Bynum being healthy seems to be only good when compare to Greg Oden...


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                  Posted 09 August 2013 - 06:27 PM

                  1. Thunder

                  2. Spurs

                  3. Clippers

                  4. Grizzlies

                  5. Rockets

                  6. Warriors

                  7. Minnesota

                  8. New Orleans

                   

                  Like most others, I feel like seeds 1-5 are going to be extremely close, and the order can be shifted around. I think we will go through growing pains early on which is why I have us at the 5th seed. I'm not as high on GS as everyone else is. They were a pretty average team until the playoffs last year, and I have serious doubts that they can go a full season without injuries. New Orleans is more of a bold (well not too bold) predicition. I feel like Dallas and Portland also have a shot getting the last seed, but I would like to see New Orleans in there.


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                  #38 Buckko

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                    Posted 09 August 2013 - 06:45 PM

                    I think 

                     

                    1. Thunder

                    2. Spurs

                    3. Clippers

                    4. Grizzlies

                    5. Rockets

                    6. Warriors

                    7. Minnesota

                    8. New Orleans

                     

                    Like most others, I feel like seeds 1-5 are going to be extremely close, and the order can be shifted around. I think we will go through growing pains early on which is why I have us at the 5th seed. I'm not as high on GS as everyone else is. They were a pretty average team until the playoffs last year, and I have serious doubts that they can go a full season without injuries. New Orleans is more of a bold (well not too bold) predicition. I feel like Dallas and Portland also have a shot getting the last seed, but I would like to see New Orleans in there.

                    NOP are too young and they need to learn to gel while I doubt the rockets will have growing pains like the heat did their first year. We only added Howard and we already know what system we are using. We should be 4th seed at the least because the Grizzlies have no offense and Z-Bo is declining. It should be interesting between the clippers and the rockets because the clippers play no defense, and the rockets offense is better than theirs, but lets see how Doc can change that. I also agree that the Warriors are highly overrated and we would be a matchup nightmare for them, cheers for another shot at that record. 


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                    Posted 09 August 2013 - 06:52 PM

                    I think 

                     

                    NOP are too young and they need to learn to gel while I doubt the rockets will have growing pains like the heat did their first year. We only added Howard and we already know what system we are using. We should be 4th seed at the least because the Grizzlies have no offense and Z-Bo is declining. It should be interesting between the clippers and the rockets because the clippers play no defense, and the rockets offense is better than theirs, but lets see how Doc can change that. I also agree that the Warriors are highly overrated and we would be a matchup nightmare for them, cheers for another shot at that record. 

                     

                    You may be right about NO. I just like the young rebuilding teams, so I would like to see them there. About the Rockets do we already know what system we are going to use? Are we going to slow the game down a little bit now thta we have Dwight? Is Dwight going to be satisfied primarily being a PnR player? Will one of our young PFs finally step up? How will Lin be handled?

                     

                    I think the ceiling for the Rockets is extremely high, but we also have a lot of questions (granted so does every team). I just believe it will take some time for not only the players to figure it out, but the coaching staff as well.


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                    Posted 09 August 2013 - 06:57 PM

                    It will be interesting to see how ZBo responds after the total annihilation that he received against the Spurs.


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