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[Buckko]

I can definitely see Harden averaging 28 ppg, but I think Durant will average more than that. 

It just depends, if Durant is injured or Ibaka, Jackson, or lamb all take up more scoring opportunities so durant doesn't have to carry the team.  

[timetodienow1234567]

I see both Melo and Durant averaging close to 27 or 28 a game. I don't see Harden getting enough touches to do that. He had an unlimited amount of touches last year and he will have less this year.

[Buckko]

I see both Melo and Durant averaging close to 27 or 28 a game. I don't see Harden getting enough touches to do that. He had an unlimited amount of touches last year and he will have less this year.

With Dwight getting double team, harden will get more open shots even if his touches go down. His efficiency should increase.

[timetodienow1234567]

With Dwight getting double team, harden will get more open shots even if his touches go down. His efficiency should increase.

We can only hope

[Knickabokkaz]

Kyrie, Kawhi, Cousins, I say Cousins because of his talent, talent wise he can be great, it's his attitude that needs a readjustment

[timetodienow1234567]

All the votes are close except people really love George.

[rockets best fan]

All the votes are close except people really love George.

I thought George and Kawhi were really close.....I gave it to George for aggression

[Buckko]

I thought George and Kawhi were really close.....I gave it to George for aggression

I picked Kawhi. I think him and Parsons will be seriously competing for the backup forward spot behind KD in the allstar game.

[rockets best fan]

I picked Kawhi. I think him and Parsons will be seriously competing for the backup forward spot behind KD in the allstar game.

I don't know that parsons will get the necessary touches with Harden and Howard on the floor, but talent wise he is worthy of consideration

[BrentYen]

Kawhi is more talented, if comparing with Parsons.

[rockets best fan]

Kawhi is more talented, if comparing with Parsons.

I agree, but Parsons is close

[Buckko]

Kawhi is more talented, if comparing with Parsons.

Parsons is a better shooter and scorer while Kawhi is a better rebounder and they are about the same on defense, so I wouldn't say there is an easy winner.

 

Also Parsons is CLUTCH.

Edited by Buckko, 07 August 2013 - 05:18 PM.

[timetodienow1234567]

Same on defense.... SMH

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[timetodienow1234567]

Okay when I get off of work Ill post a 5,000 word post on the folly of saying Parsons and Kawhi are the same on defense.

[Mario Peña]

Sounds good, I look forward to it. I believe you could do that justice. Also please understand the point of what I wrote, thank you.

[Steven]

Write in vote. PG Canaan.

[Buckko]

Okay when I get off of work Ill post a 5,000 word post on the folly of saying Parsons and Kawhi are the same on defense.

Parsons was a underrated defender, Kawhi got to show his stuff on the big stage in the playoffs. Parsons hasn't gotten that chance, but we will see whose better when the two Texan teams battle it out.

[Losthief]

Parsons was a underrated defender, Kawhi got to show his stuff on the big stage in the playoffs. Parsons hasn't gotten that chance, but we will see whose better when the two Texan teams battle it out.

True...but because its in my head now:

 

As of right now:

Athleticism=Kawhi (but its semi-close, strength goes to Kawhi though)

Scoring=Even

Shooting=Parsons

Post Game=Kawhi

Finishing at/around Rim=Even

Passing=Parsons (underrated passer really)

Dribbling/Driving=Kawhi but close, full court/fastbreak would probably be parsons.

Pick and Roll Def=Even

Recovering to Shooters=Kawhi (his timing is remarkable)

Post Defense=Kawhi (solely on strength)

1 v 1 defense=Even

Pick/Screen Setting=Kawhi

Running off Screens=??? didn't see enough of either guy in this role

Clutch=Parsons (though Kawhi did good in the finals on his oppurtunities, i've seen parsons do it more )

 

just my eye test though on that stuff, don't have the stats, or the time right now to look, so take with big grain of salt or look it up and prove me right/wrong as the case may be. Love to hear ya'lls opinion on it though.

 

p.s. As for off-court/intangiables/leadership i think parsons wins that in a landslide as a leader type player, though it'd be hard for Kawhi to get a chance like parsons did with that locker room so that could even up later, but definelty parsons for now on that. I do think Kawhi's Talent Ceiling is slightly higher than parsons, but i could be wrong, and not every one reaches their respective cielings anyways.

Edited by Losthief, 08 August 2013 - 01:22 AM.

[miketheodio]

I thought George and Kawhi were really close.....I gave it to George for aggression

depends on the team they are on IMO