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[Mason Khamvilay]

He's almost there IMO but Detroit needs floor spacing and LA gives them that.

I agree, but I don't see how Porland can get him without giving up Aldridge in the process. 

[rockets best fan]

RBF, there have been better offers that POR turned down. They want a legitimate all star in return for LA not Asik and Smith and a non lottery pick

what offers? from everything I have read Portland is the one being rebuffed. they ask Chicago for Noah Chicago said no......they ask Minny about Love... Minny said no......... they ask Utah about Favors... Utah said no................so exactly what offer has been put on the table that they turned down? everybody starts off asking for more than they will realistically get. as the price comes more into our range watch for us to pull the trigger

[RollingWave]

As long as Portland has aims to make the playoffs, they're not going to trade Aldridge unless it's for a bigger star coming back,  That's basically the end of story.  but given LMA's money and contract status, this seems extremely unlikely to happen.

 

Value change all the time relative to need and the situation teams are in, RBF your essentially assuming Portland's willingness to trade LMA base on that they want to totally tank, which is not based on any shred of reality.

[rockets best fan]

As long as Portland has aims to make the playoffs, they're not going to trade Aldridge unless it's for a bigger star coming back,  That's basically the end of story.  but given LMA's money and contract status, this seems extremely unlikely to happen.

 

Value change all the time relative to need and the situation teams are in, RBF your essentially assuming Portland's willingness to trade LMA base on that they want to totally tank, which is not based on any shred of reality.

true.......but they didn't start out last year trying to tank either, but ended the year in full tank mode. if they start poorly (which is possible) they could switch into tank mode fairly quickly. or LMA could be applying pressure to be moved which might force their hand. either way they could end up trading him whether they want to or not. the longer they wait could make the offers go down because teams will only be trading for  a rental if they slip and allow LMA to enter the last year of his contract. the best deals they are going to get will be offered this year and they know it. so it is doubtful they will allow the situation to linger without resolution

[hizzobbes]

Realistic LMA trade ideas wont come around until the trade deadline or next off season. All depends on how Portland is doing and how much pressure LMA applies. Portland could still get some decent offers if LMA agrees to sign an extension with his new team, like James Harden did with us. 

[rockets best fan]

Realistic LMA trade ideas wont come around until the trade deadline or next off season. All depends on how Portland is doing and how much pressure LMA applies. Portland could still get some decent offers if LMA agrees to sign an extension with his new team, like James Harden did with us. 

that's possible, however I think they are just waiting until right before the season so that it will not affect their season ticket sales

[Steven]

Realistic LMA trade ideas wont come around until the trade deadline or next off season. All depends on how Portland is doing and how much pressure LMA applies. Portland could still get some decent offers if LMA agrees to sign an extension with his new team, like James Harden did with us.

No possible FA is going to sign an extension until his contract completely runs out three years vs four.

[Buckko]

Still think we'll hang on to Aşık and Lin until they prove that last year wasn't a fluke. I expect some trade deadline movement to get one of them off the books, if not both, since that'll make next year tough on the wallet for Les. Hate to harp, but maybe KLove? Something 4-ish, depending on DMo's and Jones' progress.

Asik carried us to the playoffs.

[Buckko]

He's almost there IMO but Detroit needs floor spacing and LA gives them that.

[Buckko]

He's almost there IMO but Detroit needs floor spacing and LA gives them that.

Monroe plays no defense and Drummond has a far better upside.

[Buckko]

what offers? from everything I have read Portland is the one being rebuffed. they ask Chicago for Noah Chicago said no......they ask Minny about Love... Minny said no......... they ask Utah about Favors... Utah said no................so exactly what offer has been put on the table that they turned down? everybody starts off asking for more than they will realistically get. as the price comes more into our range watch for us to pull the trigger

that's a fantasy, you need things they want and need to get a trade done. They already have a center and PG.

Edited by Buckko, 30 July 2013 - 03:17 AM.

[timetodienow1234567]

Monroe plays no defense and Drummond has a far better upside.

 

Exactly. And that's why Detroit makes that move. Portland makes that move because Monroe is the best available player that they could get. He does play some defense as shown in the Team USA game, but it's not his strong suit. But, he's certainly no Al Jefferson.

[rockets best fan]

that's a fantasy, you need things they want and need to get a trade done. They already have a center and PG.

one man's fantasy may become everyone's reality  we have already been over what Asik means to them and involving a 3rd team to take on Lin to net other assets.........offer some facts to support your point of view instead of only expressing your opinion.......just because you don't want it to happen has no bearing on whether it will happen or not........support your opinion with something. I have given you reasons why what I am telling you can happen tell me why (outside of your opinion)  it can't

Edited by rockets best fan, 30 July 2013 - 05:16 AM.

[Buckko]

one man's fantasy may become everyone's reality  we have already been over what Asik means to them and involving a 3rd team to take on Lin to net other assets.........offer some facts to support your point of view instead of only expressing your opinion.......just because you don't want it to happen has no bearing on whether it will happen or not........support your opinion with something. I have given you reasons why what I am telling you can happen tell me why (outside of your opinion)  it can't

If Portland already traded a player away to get 1 center, do you think they want to trade away another(LA) for another? Other teams can offer far more than houston so it is ludicrous to even think you can have a chance in the first place.Still a fantasy without reason.  

[rocketrick]

if Morey has shown us anything thing it's luck favors the  prepared. he will move both Asik and Lin, but  won't be rushed.....not until the right deal presents itself. the signing of Brooks and Camby signal two pieces in place to  make him more flexible. the NBA landscape changes all the time. just like he was prepared when Harden became available he is setting the table for his next move  

 

I concur with RBF.

 

There is absolutely no reason whatsoever for Morey and the Rockets to rush trading Asik and Lin..................unless and until the right deal presents itself. I would say February trade deadline at the very earliest for the Rockets next major move, and even then, maybe not depending on how the team is progressing, how the rotations are shaking out, etc. Having both Asik and Lin for the playoffs next season could be the best move. Only time will tell if something better comes along.

[rocketrick]

what offers? from everything I have read Portland is the one being rebuffed. they ask Chicago for Noah Chicago said no......they ask Minny about Love... Minny said no......... they ask Utah about Favors... Utah said no................so exactly what offer has been put on the table that they turned down? everybody starts off asking for more than they will realistically get. as the price comes more into our range watch for us to pull the trigger

 

However, Portland does not have to rush moving Aldridge. He is signed through the end of the 2014-15 season. I believe much like Morey has the advantage at the moment with Asik and Lin, Portland also has the advantage by not having or needing to move Aldridge right away.

[rockets best fan]

If Portland already traded a player away to get 1 center, do you think they want to trade away another(LA) for another? Other teams can offer far more than houston so it is ludicrous to even think you can have a chance in the first place.Still a fantasy without reason.  

who....WHO? can offer something better than us and at the same time willing to give it up? you keep saying that put some other teams out there and what they can and will offer in trade lets see if their offer is better

[rocketrick]

one man's fantasy may become everyone's reality  we have already been over what Asik means to them and involving a 3rd team to take on Lin to net other assets.........offer some facts to support your point of view instead of only expressing your opinion.......just because you don't want it to happen has no bearing on whether it will happen or not........support your opinion with something. I have given you reasons why what I am telling you can happen tell me why (outside of your opinion)  it can't

My opinion, for whatever it's worth, is that patience is a great virtue for the Rockets and Morey to have for the next few months at least. Who knows which teams will implode and what players that might be a really nice fit for the Rockets might become available until after the season has kicked in?. Perhaps by January there will be a couple of unexpected teams that are imploding and who become willing to move key players to start over and re-build. The Rockets are in perfect position to be able to trounce on the unexpected. Only time will tell.

[rockets best fan]

However, Portland does not have to rush moving Aldridge. He is signed through the end of the 2014-15 season. I believe much like Morey has the advantage at the moment with Asik and Lin, Portland also has the advantage by not having or needing to move Aldridge right away.

I agree they don't have to rush, but they will resolve the issue one way or another. LMA may change his mind if they win early if not they will move to trade him, but they will not allow this season to pass because they lose some of their bargaining power. which mean they will resolve it by the trade deadline at the very latest

[rockets best fan]

My opinion, for whatever it's worth, is that patience is a great virtue for the Rockets and Morey to have for the next few months at least. Who knows which teams will implode and what players that might be a really nice fit for the Rockets might become available until after the season has kicked in?. Perhaps by January there will be a couple of unexpected teams that are imploding and who become willing to move key players to start over and re-build. The Rockets are in perfect position to be able to trounce on the unexpected. Only time will tell.

I agree with this statement

Edited by rockets best fan, 30 July 2013 - 07:10 AM.