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Does Signing Camby Mean Houston's Trading Aşık?


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#1 Red94

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    Posted 29 July 2013 - 05:04 PM

    New post: Does Signing Camby Mean Houston's Trading Aşık?
    By: Forrest Walker

    With the provocative headline out of the way, here's the answer: no. It's not sexy, it's not dramatic and it's not juicy. The Houston Rockets have signed veteran center Marcus Camby to a veteran minimum, one year deal, and it's not a precursor to other moves. Camby likes the Rockets and the Rockets like Camby. As August approaches and the NBA off-season becomes increasingly boring, any crumb of drama will be snapped up. But there's no drama in Houston today.

    Lots of people, primarily outside of Rockets-land, have been asking out loud whether Ömer Aşık is about to get moved now that Camby is in the mix. It's certainly true that Marcus Camby has been and still is one of the most effective rebounders in the NBA. His defense is still quite solid and his shot is about as nonexistent as ever. At least half the league would be happy to have him as their backup center, and Houston has picked him up as injury insurance. Wouldn't that be the kind of move Houston would make when preparing to move Ömer? Wouldn't that be an interesting late-summer twist if they did? How exciting!

    But if you've been living in Rockets-land, this is just another Monday. It would be interesting for the NBA world if a blockbuster trade was forthcoming, but this isn't a sign of one. Camby has a home in Pearland, a Houston suburb. He had played worthwhile minutes on a less-than-worthwhile Rockets team a couple seasons ago. Houston likes him and he likes Houston.  He didn't want to sit on the bench for a non-contender in Toronto, but was content to do so for a sort-of contender in New York. It's hard to imagine Houston's pitch to him being very difficult. Everything was in place for him to sign a veteran minimum deal in Houston and provide that ineffable "veteran leadership."

    So, no, nothing about this screams "Ömer Aşık is traded" any more than signing Aaron Brooks signaled a Patrick Beverley or Jeremy Lin trade. The Rockets are a team that likes to have quality players all the way down the roster, and a team that seems able to re-sign players years down the line. Houston's roster may look complete, but if Chase Budinger or Chuck Hayes somehow became available for the veteran's minimum, they'd pounce in a heartbeat. There may be a logjam at the bottom of the bench, but that's a good problem to have, especially once some players suffer injuries.

    Of course, there's every chance Rockets general manager Daryl Morey will make a fool of me and trade Aşık next week. Morey isn't afraid to rock the boat in the interest of winning a championship, and he'd easily pull the trigger on anything that he judged to be "the right deal." But that's unrelated to this signing. Bringing Camby in was a move in and of itself. He improves the team's chances, even if only slightly. Don't read too much into it, even if a later trade makes that oh-so-tempting.


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    #2 Cooper

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      Posted 29 July 2013 - 05:06 PM

      I think trading asik was in the cards regardless
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        Posted 29 July 2013 - 05:13 PM

        So Camby 3rd option, Smith 4th?


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        Posted 29 July 2013 - 05:16 PM



        I appreciate the extra effort you must have gone to to get the Turkish scripting right on Ömer Aşık. It's the little things ;).

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          Posted 29 July 2013 - 05:26 PM

          Just seen the season tickets cover with Harden/Howard/Parsons. No Asik/Lin. Writing is on the wall. I believe Rockets brought in Lin partly because of marketing. 4 PGs, 4 Cs. Hmm Hmm


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            Posted 29 July 2013 - 05:31 PM

            <br /><br /><p>Voice of reason, Camby is just insurance and a veterans presence. He could never be D12's backup unless you are asking to get them both injured.</p>
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            Posted 29 July 2013 - 05:43 PM

            if Morey has shown us anything thing it's luck favors the  prepared. he will move both Asik and Lin, but  won't be rushed.....not until the right deal presents itself. the signing of Brooks and Camby signal two pieces in place to  make him more flexible. the NBA landscape changes all the time. just like he was prepared when Harden became available he is setting the table for his next move  


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            you can only warn a man that the bridge is out.....if he keeps driving he's on his own B)


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              Posted 29 July 2013 - 05:45 PM


              <br /><br /><p>Voice of reason, Camby is just insurance and a veterans presence. He could never be D12's backup unless you are asking to get them both injured.</p>


              Not much reason having a 8millon dollar backup to play behind you 20million dollar starter
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                Posted 29 July 2013 - 06:06 PM

                if Morey has shown us anything thing it's luck favors the  prepared. he will move both Asik and Lin, but  won't be rushed.....not until the right deal presents itself. the signing of Brooks and Camby signal two pieces in place to  make him more flexible. the NBA landscape changes all the time. just like he was prepared when Harden became available he is setting the table for his next move  

                I think both AB and Camby received guaranteed contracts. So they won't be cut when roster is finalized. 


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                Posted 29 July 2013 - 06:26 PM

                how about this for trade................three teams

                Houston sends asik  and g-smith to  Portland. Houston sends Lin to philly along with our 2014 first rounder

                Portland sends LMA to Houston

                Philly send Portland NO 2014 first rounder


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                you can only warn a man that the bridge is out.....if he keeps driving he's on his own B)


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                  Posted 29 July 2013 - 06:31 PM


                  Not much reason having a 8millon dollar backup to play behind you 20million dollar starter

                  it gives us the best 1-2 punch at center and the best rim protection in the NBA. Center changes games, and if D12 gets injured and we traded asik, we are screwed.
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                    Posted 29 July 2013 - 06:37 PM

                    how about this for trade................three teams
                    Houston sends asik and g-smith to Portland. Houston sends Lin to philly along with our 2014 first rounder
                    Portland sends LMA to Houston
                    Philly send Portland NO 2014 first rounder

                    Wouldn't work, Philly are tanking and using this time to train MCW and that draft pick is vital to their reconstruction. Philly already has their PG and blazers have their center. I think an LA trade is a bad idea but we wouldn't even be able to do it in the first place when we have things nobody wants.

                    Edited by Buckko, 29 July 2013 - 06:38 PM.

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                      Posted 29 July 2013 - 06:50 PM

                      Yeah there will be competitive offering for LMA we don't have the pieces to keep up.
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                      Posted 29 July 2013 - 06:54 PM

                      RBF, there have been better offers that POR turned down. They want a legitimate all star in return for LA not Asik and Smith and a non lottery pick
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                        Posted 29 July 2013 - 06:54 PM

                        Yeah there will be competitive offering for LMA we don't have the pieces to keep up.

                        Very true


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                        Posted 29 July 2013 - 06:55 PM

                        I think Detroit gets LA giving up Monroe.
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                          Posted 29 July 2013 - 06:57 PM


                          Yeah there will be competitive offering for LMA we don't have the pieces to keep up.

                          agreed, not only would it not be in our best interest, but we would never be able to do it in the first place. Like Lin and asik or not, they are part of our team now and in the future.
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                          Posted 29 July 2013 - 06:59 PM

                          I think Detroit gets LA giving up Monroe.

                          Monroe's very underrated. In the right system with the fit of guys he is an All-Star caliber player imo. Portland is not the right fit.


                          Edited by 2016Champions, 29 July 2013 - 07:02 PM.

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                          Posted 29 July 2013 - 07:22 PM

                          Monroe's very underrated. In the right system with the fit of guys he is an All-Star caliber player imo. Portland is not the right fit.


                          He's almost there IMO but Detroit needs floor spacing and LA gives them that.
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                          Posted 29 July 2013 - 07:41 PM

                          Still think we'll hang on to Aşık and Lin until they prove that last year wasn't a fluke.  I expect some trade deadline movement to get one of them off the books, if not both, since that'll make next year tough on the wallet for Les.  Hate to harp, but maybe KLove?  Something 4-ish, depending on DMo's and Jones' progress.


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