Sports Illustrated: Carmelo Anthony open to multiyear deal with Houston Rockets

Chris Mannix:

Multiple league sources familiar with his situation told SI.com that Anthony would also be open to signing a long-term deal with Houston or New Jersey should either of those teams offer the Nuggets an acceptable trade package.

Update at 8:23PM

Let me first say, I’m absolutely floored.  I did not think there was any chance Anthony would express interest in the Rockets, especially given Yao’s injury status.  I had assumed that his refusal to extend with Denver was born primarily out of a desire to join the Knicks; with this news, it appears the motivation is simply to leave the Nuggets.

Again, I’m shocked.  To an outsider, I don’t know if there’s any reason to believe in the Rockets’ chances at a title over Denver’s.  But nevertheless…

Anthony, like Chris Paul, would be the elite talent that could immediately vault this team into contention.  He makes a living at the line and would restore parity to the Rockets’ lineup, filling their position of biggest need.

One has to wonder if the Ariza deal was made as a precursor – Lee would instill perimeter defense at the ’2′ on the nights when Martin/Melo become just too much lethargy on that end.

Also interesting if Morey pulled the trigger: would probably be the first recorded philosophical schism in the stat-geek community, with ESPN’s Tom Haberstroh recently opining on Anthony’s true worth.

More as it comes.

Update:

  • Had you asked me who my least favorite player in basketball not named Sasha Vujacic was, 24 hours ago, I would have promptly responded, ‘Carmelo Anthony.’  The Nuggets forward has always rubbed me the wrong way for some reason, perhaps due to his complete manhandling of my Longhorns his freshman year (and T.J Ford’s final year at Texas) at Syracuse.  Funny how our perceptions change due to circumstances – I’d drive to the airport to pick Anthony up if it was required right now.
  • Had to explain this to a non-sports-fan right now: ‘the hierarchy of hope’, if you will, goes Paul, Anthony, Bosh.  Bosh is a top-15 player, Anthony somewhere in the 6-8 range, and Paul in the 3-5 range.  If you had your pick, you go with Paul everyday, but as I said, Anthony certainly qualifies as the ‘elite’ acquisition I and others have been saying this team needs.
  • Again, just utterly, utterly, utterly shocking that this guy actually has interest in the Rockets.  This is an indication that for Anthony, it is not just about glamour, glitz, and camaraderie, but also a true chance at winning, something he would be given in Houston – I would have never in my wildest dreams imagined such an inclusion on this man’s list of priorities.  Again, preconceptions…
  • The skeptic will proffer that this is simply a ploy by ‘Melo for leverage.  I’m not sure I follow the logic here.  What exactly would he stand to gain by such deception?  If he doesn’t truly want to come to Houston, then that will eventually come out, and all parties would be back at square one.  I highly doubt he would be trying to push the Knicks’ hand to up their offer – they’re interested enough as is.  This isn’t a leverage ploy; the interest is real.
  • The last guy in Rockets red to put up the point totals Anthony has piled up wasn’t Tracy McGrady but rather a native of Nigeria.
  • Where would a Carmelo acquisition rank in terms of excitement?  I would still put it below the McGrady deal not just because the latter was considered by some as the best player in basketball, but also for the combo effect of partnership with a 24-year-old-Yao.  Actually, scratch that.  Open question for the audience: what’s more exciting?  A 25 year old Yao and a 24 year old McGrady with nothing else (and one of the worst general managers in basketball [meaning uncertain chance at filling the cupboard]) or a 30 year old broken down Yao with Anthony, a stacked roster, and maybe the best talent evaluator in basketball…?  I still have to pick the former, just simply because, at that time, we didn’t quite know just how bad Dawson was as a talent evaluator.  We naively assumed the supporting cast would come with just a matter of time.
  • What would an Anthony deal take?  For one, I do not think coexistence would be possible between a perimeter trio of Brooks-Martin-Anthony.  My head tells me Anthony-Martin may not even be palatable, but my heart prays we could hold onto #12.  As I mused in the comments section, the only time it actually hits me how much I like Kevin Martin is when there’s a possibility he could be traded.  I really, really like Kevin Martin, but is it really wise to pair him with Anthony?  That would possibly be the worst defensive wing duo in basketball.
  • I have no problem trading Aaron Brooks.  As I’ve been saying for some time, he’s one of the most overrated, usage-inflated players in basketball, and it might be best to deal him now before he receives his pay raise.  Aaron Brooks is worth more in trade to the Houston Rockets than the $8million/annually he will command.

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In order to match the salary of Melo, the Rockets would only have to trade Jefferies and Battier with Ariza's trade exemption. Martin does not have to be traded for money to work.

Defense specialist like Hayes, back up SF behind Melo, Battier was the leading rocket for blocks last year and had many games with 4 or more. Puls, Battier's teaching abilities and mindset are invaluable, i wouldn't be surprised if Melo or Martin became better defenders (not great, but better) when they play with Battier or Lee or Hayes.

Melo is Allen Iverson at the 3. Would you trade anything important for AI? I wouldn't.

Martin has to be included, not just because Denver might want him but to make the financials work. Morey's done almost too good of a job creating a clean roster contract-wise that it's impossible to trade for a high salary player without sacrificing a key player in return. Without Martin, you need to add about 5 players just to equal Carmelo's salary and I don't think that's even feasible for Denver to absorb.

My proposal would be Martin, Jeffries and one of the Knicks picks. I wouldn't be too optimistic. If Denver trades Anthony, they're going to have to do a complete rebuild after Billups leaves and they might prefer going into that scenario with a good young cheap player and plenty of salary cap space. Also, Martin's reputation has taken a hit over the past several years with him being injured so often and playing on bad teams. They might not even value him highly enough.

In terms of making the trade work, the Rockets would need to trade Brooks, Martin and Hill just to equate with the cost of Melo. This is interesting since, it would mean Lowry and Lee getting starters minutes. Where does that leave Battier?

@Patrick
Thanks for clarifying that.

aaron brook
courtney lee
carmelo anthony
scola
yao

this should be enough for carmelo to want to come to houston and reach the nba finals.

I wouldn't put Anthony in the 6-8 range. I'd go, not exactly in hierarchical order, Lebron, Wade, Kobe, Paul, Howard, Durant, Nowitzki, Deron, Gasol, Nash, Roy, Duncan (12 guys) at least in front of Carmelo. Then I'd separate them further by saying Carmelo's more in the second-tier. He's a lot like Martin in a way. He doesn't put up the gaudy true shooting percentages Martin does due to a poor three point shot but he scores a lot of his points from the line and is a liability on defense. Their strengths and weaknesses match up well. Where Carmelo separates from Martin is in his ability to create his own shot in the mid-range. There are times in the game, late in the fourth, against good defenses, that you can't rely on getting fouled all the time or spot up shooting. You need guys who you can give the ball to and have them create. Carmelo's better than Martin at that. He plays on the ball more.

Even if Carmelo could somehow be acquired, there's still the need for a no.1 guy to win a championship. Carmelo is just not a well-rounded enough player to fit that bill. As absurd as it might sound, I'm not sure Carmelo is even a top 2 player on a championship team. A top 2 player who plays on the perimeter has to at least average more than 4 assists and have defensive value. Carmelo comes up short on both, though he could easily average 5 assists with his passing talent.

You can't just add up the exceptions in a trade. Each exception can be used to acquire a player making 125% of the exception's value, and while they can be "split up" they can't be added together to get a 9 or 10 million dollar player. Basically the Ariza exception allows us to get anyone making up to 8 million so it would help the Rockets acquire Anthony only if the Nuggets want to shed an extra contract in the deal or they could acquire someone with the exception and send him to the Nuggets.

@Stephen,
actually, according to the ESPN trade machine - don't the Rockets still have over $9 million in accumulated trade exception? I don't know how all the money works in such a scenario, but they've listed other exceptions in addition to Ariza's $6 million which has accumulated to over 9 million. So, would that be applicable? I just think that Morey is going to want more a little more insurance at the 5, ya know. A seasoned PF/C who can run the floor and hold it down defensively, and a good value. Start the season carefully dividing minutes among Yao, Anderson, Miller, and when Yao's health improves, move Miller up and shift Anderson's minutes to back up Scola at PF. I don't know if it's financially feasible, but it's gotta be close enough to be worth the assurance.

While we look with disgust and disdain at the Lakers, taking 2 championships in a row, guess who's had a seat even closer than we do? It's Carmelo Anthony. The Nuggets were nearly swept by the Lakers after the Rockets took them to game 7 just over a year ago. Now Yao is back. This year the Nuggets made not even a whimper in the playoffs. Nuggets are now swallowed up by Karl's throat cancer, and a bunch of 'marquee' players who can't keep up with the Lakers.

Certainly this is not a way to build a legacy. Rockets offer one redemption. They know how to play the Lakers. The league should take notice. The road to the Championship still goes through LA at some point.

Rockets have to outbid the Nets and the Knicks with talent, which shouldn't be too hard.

Anderson would cost the Rockets $9mil+. Somehow doubt that's going to happen.

Morey is not going to bid against himself.
Neither NY nor NJ can offer a 20ppg scorer.
Why would Denver trade Carmelo for Vince Carter and a prob very low draft pick or take on the much higher paid Rashard Lewis?
Houston can offer in Martin something no one else has. Plus the Rockets can offer a young talented big-on a rookie contract and if needed multiple draft picks.
The Rockets don't have to throw in the kitchen sink to make an offer no one else can match. The question is if Carmelo really wants to come to Houston.

With the trade exception cash left from Ariza, Houston can insist Denver slip Chris Anderson into the deal too. Most likely necessary considering we'll need added insurance between the C and PF position, and Chris "Birdman" Anderson would fit that very nicely. Plus, he'd quickly become a crowd favorite, a true warrior on the court. It really can work, and work well.

TChizza,
I think Martin has to be included because of size of his contract.
From there I can see Morey giving up one of his young bigs,but not both.
Hill looks more ready now and has a slightly larger contract,so I would imagine he would be the one included. Anthony Johnson has a small non-guaranteed contract that if included,makes the deal work(Martin,Hill,Johnson for Carmelo is w/in the 25%.) The Rockets would have to include at least 1 First,maybe 2.
I tend to believe simple trades are the easiest done. While we as fans might like to swap 1/3 of the roster on a deal,trying to unload those we don't like,real GMs have all kinds of roster and other considerations.
While a Martin and Jeffries or Battier deal is certainly feasible,I just think Denver would prefer to take in less in salaries(and Hou isn't going to take on a fortune is salaries) and what I suggested would save the Nuggets $3-4mil(depending on waiving Johnson) and the equivalent in Lux tax.Some of that savings would go to a new SF,but having Hill would save money on trying to get another big.
The Nuggets would need a SF,perhaps they might try buying Xavier Henry from Memphis w/cash(possib from Hou) and a Future First.

bolder yet, what if they include billups in exchange for martin/AB ??

YAO/SCOLA/MELO/LEE/BILLUPS

It would be interesting, though highly improbable, to have Brooks-Martin-and Melo,

WOW...If Melo does decide to come to the rockets, that would just be awesome...and I think the trade with the Nets was a trade that was setting up for this trade ( we traded Ariza, our SF, for Lee, a SG) By trading our SF, it opens up the position for Melo and also by Lee coming over, he is a solid 2 gaurd. I'm thinking that if the trade went down, Kevin Martin would be involved because Martin is a scoring gaurd, so there fore you have to trade him in order to get another great scorer in Melo. Lee would fit the Rockets SG role perfectly as he is a solid role player. Also, Battier is probably involved as Budinger is a bright young SF and could be Melo's back up. MOREY, PLEASE MAKE THIS HAPPEN!

PG - Brooks/ Lowry
SG - Lee/ Taylor
SF - Melo/Budinger
PF - Scola / Jeffries
C - Yao/ Miller/ Hayes

2010 - 2011 ! It's TIME!

what if we send AB in the deal? he's due a new contract anyways, and we just inked kyle lowry to starter type salary. i think a lineup of YAO,SCOLA,MELO,MARTIN,LOWRY would have opposing teams in the penalty pretty early.

Denver fan here but I'm checking out the Houston/NJ/NY boards just to see what kind of trade proposals people are putting together. I'm not trolling, just interested in thoughts.

My first instinct when I saw Houston was:

Melo/Birdman for Battier/Jeffries/Hill/Patterson + a small contract of your choosing to match salaries and NYK's 2012 first rounder.

My second was:

Melo for Martin/Hill/Patterson and NYK's 2012 1st.

In both cases the salaries work and I could digest either as a Nuggets fan. I think both aren't fantastical in demands as I'm not asking for Martin and Battier + Hill and Patterson in either deal. Obviously my favored trade would be a Melo/Bird for a Martin/Battier/Hill/Patterson but that's probably asking too much.

It's officially become a bidding war. Next is determining what Denver would want in a Denver trade. I realize that you can never get back true value in any Melo trade scenarios.
However, in thelikely case that he is leaning toward bolting in the off-season, what are the team's demands in any trade offers? My guess...

1. At least one established talent
2. A couple good/young/cheap prospects
3. Expiring contracts or T/E
4. Potential future lottery picks
5. Take back unwanted contracts

The Rox can offer Denver all of the above and still field a good enough team to challenge the Lakers in the west. If the Nugs trade Melo, then they really don't have much use for a 34 y/o Billups. So this would be my offer

Melo + Billups + C. Andersen + Balkman

for

Martin + Brooks + Hill + Battier + Jeffries + NY swap '11 + NY '12

Yao/Miller/Hayes
Scola/Andersen/Pattersen
Melo/Chase/Balkman
Lee/Taylor
Billups/Lowry/Ish

That trade is completely.... unnecessary? Sorry, but I wouldn't sell all of our young base, including our most recent first round pick -__-

Cannot have Carmelo and Martin together. Too much needing of shots,too little D.(Adelman went on record that he never wanted to have to outscore teams again.)
Martin and either Hill+Johnson or Jeffries,a First would be an equitable package.(Denver wants a big,gets a 20ppg scorer and a future First,a modest $3mil TPE,cap relief and can go out and get a defensive SF fairly cheap.)
Still pretty dubious about Melo accepting a deal w/Houston. Sounds like an agent making nice w/Houston for future/past clients.

Of course my first thought when I heard Melo was available was to see if there'd be a way to also trade for Paul,but the Brooks/Ariza history puts a huge crimp on that.

If Denver ware smart, they would trade with the Rockets and ask for the draft picks. By this, they screw over NY and the chances of NY going to lottery just shot up. By doing that, those draft picks they acquire from the Rockets are now very valuable. The perfect double screw you to NY. LOL

Brian,

Melo has three teams he's interested in, thus far--Rockets, Knicks, Nets. As Ty185 notes below, the Nets could offer Favors, and throw in Murphy (huge expiring contract) plus draft picks. The Nuggets would be bad for this year, but they have a lot of expiring contracts, so they would have only $35 million or so under contract for 2011-12, with a promising core of Favors, Lawson, and Nene. Without Martin, could the Rockets offer a better deal? I'm not sure, especially if we presume that the Nuggets have little interest in Brooks or Lowry.

A friend and I have been texting back and forth about this and at first, I was saying that Melo had more negotiating power than denver did. But then, my friend mentioned something that completely changed my opinion: the impending collective bargaining agreement. If Melo wants Max money like the other elites and if there is a lower max-money that can be offered, this year is the only year where he can truly get paid and the only way he can do that is through an extension then a trade. If it comes to that, I think houston has the best assets for the trade that denver would be interested in. It is also up to Anthony on how badly he wants to play in NY and what pieces NY is willing to give up.

We all have heard that Melo would be willing to go to New York for less money, but Houston allows him to go to a state with zero state tax. In New York its 8.97%, so on a $20 million dollar contract just by coming to the rockets he would save $1.8 million. That is $1.8 million reasons to join the Rockets.

You absolutely have to make this move if it's at all possible.

SAY MAN WHERE YOU FROM WITH THAT NON SENSE>>>NEVER LET PEOPLE SMOKE AND BLOG LOL

Send draft picks to Denver and this looks very interesting for all parties. Paul and Melo get there own big 3, denver gets financial relief and picks, new orleans gets solid talent in return for Paul.

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?trade...

I agree. Nuggets have slightly more negotiating power than Toronto did with Bosh, but not a whole lot. Carmelo has to first pick out the team(s) he wants to go to (by agreeing to extension with a team), otherwise there is no deal. Nuggets can only negotiate with the teams picked out by Carmelo, or, risk loosing him for nothing.

I just checked Sports Illustrated website and did not see anything about Melo wanting to come to the Rockets, it listed the Nets and Knicks.

In reply to Rocket Fan in Santa Barbara. I dont think the Nuggets are in a very good negotiating position at all, If anything they are between a rock and a hard place. Carmelo has made it obvious he doesnt want to be there and he is a free agent after this season so they can either get whatever they can this year or get nothing after the season.

I just hope right now Les is screaming... GET HIM... GET HIM... GET HIM!!!

Any interest in Houston from Melo's part instantly kills New York as a potential destination. The Knicks just couldn't put up a package that will interest denver if we are in play...

The more interesting question is, if Nets are willing to offer Favors, would their package be considered more enticing then ours? Rahat, what's your take on this?

I'm just thinking, a team consists of Kyle Lowry, Kevin Martin, Melo and Yao... Will the opposing team foul out half of their rotation before the 4th quarter? :)

Wow, I'm stunned. I have to say that the very fact that Melo is interested in Houston indicates a level of maturity and savvy that is far ahead of Bosh and other NBA stars. I never liked Melo, but now I have new found respect for his good taste.

If I were the Nuggets, I would insist on a package that included Hill, Battier, and Martin, plus draft picks. The Nuggets are in a good negotiating position right now and they know how good this trade would make the Rockets. If I were Morey, I'd take such a deal or something similar. I love Martin, too, but I worry about the fit, especially on the defensive end. A line-up of Brooks, Lee, Melo, Yao, and Scola is a nice mix of defense and offense, and our bench would be still be hands down the best in the league. An added benefit of moving Martin is that you open up more minutes for Lowry, which is never a bad thing.

what if Houston can also include a swap Brooks for Lawson?

So it looks like big city and/or international exposure is a very important factor in Carmelo's decision making, maybe even more so than just winning a championship. Otherwise, he can just voice interest in New Orleans and force Denver to trade with them. Is that a fair way of interpreting this? Wouldn't other teams like Chicago be an even better choice for him?

Would acquiring Melo open the door for Chris Paul eventually to come to Houston?

I don't know if we can but I hope to God we'd be able to hold on to Kevin Martin - I love that guy. (Which is weird because I never realize how much I like Kevin Martin until the prospect of trading him comes up.)

Stunning news. Do you think we'd be able to keep Martin though? They have no use for Brooks unless it's a 3-way. We have a lot of other attractive young pieces but you have to think they'll holdout for Martin or whatever we can fetch them for Brooks.

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