The Rockets Daily – January 3, 2013

Like A Rock – On ESPN’s Insider’s list of most immovable contracts, Jeremy Lin’s deal didn’t make the top 5, which is Amare Stoudemire territory, but it did warrant an honorable mention:

Two years and $16.7 million remaining for an average point guard. Because Lin was signed under the Gilbert Arenas provision, he is actually owed $14.6 million in cash next year.

 Turning HeadsOn Sunday I wrote about where Dwight Howard’s game is in comparison to his L.A. and Orlando days, on Tuesday they wrote about it over at Hickory High, and now Greg Anthony is talking about it on Yahoo. It’s becoming pretty clear that Howard’s malaise in L.A. is not going to define the rest of his career.

Juicy SportVU GoodnessAndrew Johnson at Hickory High has a new way of measuring turnovers, and it’s really good. Instead of measuring turnovers percentage as by how many times the player turns it over out of plays that the player ends (as in with a shot or drawn foul), it measures how many times the player turns the ball over out of every 100 times he touches the ball.

Dwight Howard and James Harden come in at 17th and 18th worst in the league by this metric, turning the ball over nearly six times out of every 100 touches. Harden doesn’t look so bad by the older turnover percentage metric because he takes so many shots, but this reveals exactly how often he really loses the ball.

Oof – Chris Ryan takes a good hard look at Chandler Parsons’ brand management in the latest Grantland NBA shootaround. It’s a little cringeworthy: Buffalo David Bitton clothes, Express watches, and Anta sneakers. Ryan writes:

Look, I understand that a yearly salary of $926,500 means you have to do whatever you can to make ends meet. While Jeremy Lin is out there buying a bed frame made of Swiss Pearwood with “Poison Pill” etched into the headboard, Chandler Parsons is living just enough for the city. But that doesn’t mean he should be abandoning good brand management.

Of course, the other way to look at it is that Parsons has made sure his brand reflects that he cavorts with models, is big in China, and wears exactly the brand of watch that guys who look like Chandler Parsons would be expected to wear. Long live the Hair.

Signing Off – Well guys, writing the Daily has been a heck of a ride, but it’s time to go. This is my last one, and on Monday a new guy will be writing these. I’ll leave it to Rahat to introduce him to you all, but suffice to say he’s more than capable.

As I wrote a few months ago, I’m giving up the Daily because I’ve got a kid on the way. I’ll still be around, writing the DwightLife series and posting in message boards. Be seeing you.

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  • rocketrick says 8 months ago

    The bottomline is Parson's will soon be a free agent, and a lot of teams will try and get him. We need to have money open to give him a new deal, so paying 8 mill to a reserve at best makes no sense, especially when that production can be duplicated by a player making far less.Lin was brought in to start, he struggled a lot, and now he is a reserve, he was given that big deal to start, so if he is now a reserve, then yes I can question if he is truly worth that deal. I been watching the rockets along time, so I tend to think more about the future, then just the current season.


    First off, the Rockets can sign Parsons to a new contract starting next season regardless if Lin is still on the team or not. So there is no need to panic and trade Lin to re-sign Parsons.

    Secondly, as long as the Rockets sign Parsons to a new contract before he becomes an Unrestricted Free Agent (the end of next season), then there is no concern whatsoever about losing Parsons to any other team due to free agency.

    Thirdly, although I agree Jeremy Lin was originally signed to be the Rockets starting PG, please recall that was prior to the Rockets acquiring Harden then D12. With the current roster, I believe Jeremy Lin is instead much better suited to come off the bench as a lightening in the bottle 6th man which is much needed and much admired in the NBA. Teams that have a dynamite 6th man tend to be among the better teams in the league. So, I don't understand all this dissing of Lin simply because the Rockets would now prefer to have Lin coming off the bench (once Beverly returns from injury).

    Additional value that Lin brings to the Rockets this season and next is a reliable starter in case of injury to one of our starting guards, either Beverly or Harden. Again, I believe the Rockets will come together better as a team once the Rockets become healthy and a regular rotation can finally once and for all be established. Still, it is a plus to have Lin this season due to the number of games already missed by Beverly and Harden.

    Whether Lin fits in the Rockets long-term plans is yet to be determined. It would help to have the Rockets healthy to see just exactly how effective the Rockets can be with a set rotation including having Lin come off the bench as our sparkplug. If he can prove to be effective in this role, in addition to what I mentioned previously about having the ability to start when Beverly or Harden is injured, then no doubt he will prove his value to the Rockets. I don't expect the Rockets would sign him at $8.3 million or more per season after his contract ends. The question becomes will another team out there value Lin as a starter and be willing to offer him that kind of contract or will Lin be re-signed by the Rockets for something less than $8.3 million after next season.

    Right now, I think it's much too early to be concerned with Lin's long term status on the Rockets. Instead, the main concern should be for the Rockets to return to health and a regular rotation be established so that it can be determined how everyone including Lin fits in to the Rockets for the long-term. Until then, I for one am very glad that Jeremy Lin is on our team as in my opinion there really isn't much of a drop off when either Beverly or Lin starts. However, there is a notable drop of production from our bench when Lin starts vs. coming off the bench.

    Lastly, Jeremy Lin can play defense as proven by the Memphis game where he clearly outplayed Mike Conley and was a pest the entire game guarding Conley. And I've witnessed too many times where Beverly is getting killed by the opposing team's PG so although I agree Beverly is the "better" defensive player between the 2, Patrick Beverly is not all that some make him out to be.
  • thenit says 8 months ago Just laughable that just because you watch a lot of basketball means that you have a better understanding of valuing a player with just the eye test.
    Also Lin lost his starting spot due to injury and fit to system. When it comes to turnovers you can't turn it over if you don't dribble the ball at all in the offensive half. We will disagree so no point of discussing it since you can't comprehend that a 6th man has value. By your statement I Ginobli is way overpaid and less talented than all the others 2s the spurs had on the court? Same situation for Lin since spurs has Parker and we have harden there is only one ball. By the way I'm not a Lin fan but you reasoning wasn that he only should pay 2 million and you still haven't named one player that average 14 and 6 that is not on a rookie contract that m kae that amount. There will be maybe a couple but in reality that production is worth more. Like I told you we might not have gotten full value but to diminish a players worth is questionable.

    In terms of shooting you take his 2 months he struggled well I could have taken Bevs first month when he struggled this season so it's funny how selective you are when it comes to stats. Lin best fit is as a sixth man and bev compliment harden better. So not comes to the Ginobli argument comparison. I will not post about this anymore since you are such a superior watcher than me.
  • since86rocketsfan says 8 months ago

    I go by the eye test, and less with stats, and I have watched so many games, and not just Rocket's in my life that I look at the game different from others. With Bev I see the effects of his nagging defense. Before he was hurt he shutdown Curry, and Lillard, Aldridge had to have a career night for them to get that win. Pressuring the ball, shows how confident that you are in your defense, but mainly gets the ball out of there hands, and with the list of great pgs in the west, that is what you want to do. Bev got the start in the playoffs, because of his d, and because Lin was just getting schooled. If you honestly think that Bev and Lin are equal on defense, you are letting your love for Lin, overlook the obvious.
    Canaan is a point guard who already has elite three point range, (similar to jemeer nelson's game ) he is ideal to play with Howard and Harden. And how can you honestly compare Jack and Lin's last year play. Again Lin was a starter who really struggled, Bev took his spot, and now he is a reserve. Jack has been a reserve for awhile now, so how are they comparable.
    And I said Bev is a better shooter, I know his percentage has not ever dropped down to 30%, that is awful, but you Lin lovers forget the first half of last year, and just want to remember after the all star break. Bev commits less turnovers, and that is what you want from your point guard, so you make some excuse on why Lin turns it over so much. And you say it was a new system that is why he struggled. It was new system for Harden he played well, all your excuses for Lin, just shows, you are not looking out for the teams best interest. And you bring up injuries, another reason not to give him such a big deal.
    The bottomline is Parson's will soon be a free agent, and a lot of teams will try and get him. We need to have money open to give him a new deal, so paying 8 mill to a reserve at best makes no sense, especially when that production can be duplicated by a player making far less.Lin was brought in to start, he struggled a lot, and now he is a reserve, he was given that big deal to start, so if he is now a reserve, then yes I can question if he is truly worth that deal. I been watching the rockets along time, so I tend to think more about the future, then just the current season.

  • Buckko says 8 months ago

    Lin was awesome as the 6th man, why do we have to argue this and when we get asik back, the 2nd unit domination will begin.

  • thejohnnygold says 8 months ago

    Which basically put him into the same category as Harden and Lin as pure scoring guards rather than pure PG. Difference is that he is undersized for the 2 spot. I think it was the right choice in the draft based on potential for a second rounder.

    Agreed, like I said--Morey has a type. What's funny is he signed Covington and nobody thinks that signals a departure for Parsons or Jones, but you draft a "pg" and Lin is being dissed again. He had to take someone. What was he supposed to do?

    I disagree that Lin and Harden are pure scoring guards. Guys like Kevin Martin and Joe Johnson are more "pure" scoring guards to me. I see them as just guards, or combo-guards if they must have a distinct label, with skill sets that match some kind of ideal that Morey's data produces.

    If you look at them from a skill perspective they actually all match up with Kobe Bryant pretty well. :o Waaaaaaaaat???

    It's not completely crazy. Leadership, 3 pt. shooting, rim attacking, the ability to rack up assists if they choose to, can rebound well for their position, defense.....? Well, 5 out of 6 isn't bad....I mean, if a computer were going to produce an ideal basketball player guys like Lebron and Kobe do seem ideal.

  • thenit says 8 months ago

    Which basically put him into the same category as Harden and Lin as pure scoring guards rather than pure PG. Difference is that he is undersized for the 2 spot. I think it was the right choice in the draft based on potential for a second rounder.

  • thejohnnygold says 8 months ago

    Canaan is not a PG. He is a ball-handling scoring guard with potentially elite 3 pt. shooting who has finishing ability at the rim and is good at drawing fouls. Morey has a type.

  • areteejay789 says 8 months ago

    Fair enough cooper, you're right he's a little bit old, but even so its not outrageous to suggest that he is a fair contract in terms of yearly salary. and that by extension Lin's contract is also fair. Unless you disagree that the 2 mill / year is too much to pay for potential, and the pseudo-penalty that comes with signing non-max free agents.

  • Cooper says 8 months ago Only complaint about jacks contract is its a year or two too long. He's already 30 and smaller guards don't age real well.
  • areteejay789 says 8 months ago

    Also, jarret jack got a 4 year deal worth 6.25 / year. Thats 2 million less than lin, to be a backup to Kyrie. He got that contract based on his play last year, which is very similar to Lin's play this year. That deal was not criticised at all, intact lots of people thought it was a good idea at the time (less so now because of how poor the cavs have been).

    So basically line gets an extra 2/year to cover the fact that he is younger, could improve, and was a restricted FA (Jack was UFA). That seems totally logical to me at the time, and even now isn't outrageous.

  • areteejay789 says 8 months ago

    If Linsansity had continued, he would have been worth the max, easily. Morey and his guys probably have some sort of probabilistic system to estimate how a player is likely to perform, and decided that Lin was going to offer on-court value at greater than his contract value. As it happens, it just hasn't worked out, but its not like he's been a complete bust. To be honest he's probably worth about 5-6 mil / year given how he is performing currently. The extra 2-3 millions that he is getting paid is because there was the chance that he played better, and the fact that they had to do something to ward off the knicks from matching. Also, if Jeremy was the starter, and Harden had never shown up, its entirely possible that he would be worth more than the 8.3 mill/year and would have been a nice building block or trade chip.

    Complaining about the lin contract (that happened before the harden deal) is like complaining about signing Omer and not foreseeing that we would sign Dwight. Granted Dragic probably would be a better fit than Lin, but no one knew that at the time because not only had we not traded for james, but no one even knew he was available.

  • thenit says 8 months ago Lin and bevs shooting 3s is a wash last year bev has 4 percent better and this year Lin is 4percent better so not really enough data to support your shooting on 3s. Fog percentage Lin is well above Bev. In terms of defensive rating they are a wash. All stats shows they are marginal at best just because you pressure me the ball handler doesn't mean he is effective. Bev doesn't turn the ball over because he rarely drives to the basket or handles the ball. Lin has his issues with turnovers and it is an issue but I like the new stat that counts turnovers per 100touches and both Howard and harden has more turnovers does that mean they are awful too? Lbj has the same problem as Kobe etc.
  • thenit says 8 months ago Yea if Lowry is so good he should have put up big numbers as any player, should in a bad team when you have the ball in your hand which wasn't the case. He had Amir johnson Rudy gay demar derozan and he still didn't average any good stat I as a starter.

    And you are so selective in reading people's argument. I never said Lin was the main reason but he was still part of the reason. So your argument is just because you are the sixth men you can't be talented which is ridiculous. Linsanity was crazy and not sustainable but since the aba nba merger no one every started their first 5 games averaging those numbers, not lbj magic Jordan etc. does that say he no has the same level of talent orl potential of course not.

    In terms of draft, you sometimes draft the best player with the highest ceiling especially in thej 2nd round. In terms of trade rumours almost anyone is available for a certain price. Like griffin and Melo was in trade rumours recently so does that make them useless? And no I'm not comparing those players with Lin.

    Yes his first two months were bad because he came back from knee surgery and was in a new team and system. There are many PG who can't be effective without the ball. You are so selective in your arguments that it's mute to discuss this. Like I said name a pg who makes, 2 million who average 14 and 6 who is not on a rookie deal.
  • since86rocketsfan says 8 months ago

    And please tell me how Lin is better over all then Bev. Bev's defense is way better then Lin. Bev is also a better shooter then Lin. Lin is quicker, and is better at creating his shot, but AB is better then both at shooting and finishing. Bev also does not force so many turnovers as Lin, or AB. And in the playoffs, the west is full of great pointguards Paul,Westbrook, Parker,Curry,Lillard,Dragic/Bledsoe, which means Bev's aggressive defense is way more important, then Lin's inconsistent offense.

  • since86rocketsfan says 8 months ago

    If your argument is Lin played well after the all star break, you are admitting like me he sucked the first half. Yea like Steven said, Lin needs the ball in his hands to be effective, which shows how shallow his game is. Lowry and Dragic are well rounded and complete players, who can still be effective without the ball in there hands, all Lin can do is penetrate. We made the playoffs last year because of Harden, not Lin, so to act like Lin was the reason is insane. If we had Harden a year earlier we go to the playoffs.
    And you are comparing last year, with 26 fluke games with the Knicks. Where is the Linsanity, it was overhyped because he played in that major media market. And Toronto has sucked for years, basically after Vince Carter left, to even think that Lin is on the same level as Lowry or Dragic is insane. And you did not answer, why did Morey draft a point guard, if he was so confident in him. Why does Lin's name continue to come up in trade talks, if he is so great. He is a reserve playing a lot against bench players.

  • thenit says 8 months ago Also Lowry had a worse year than Lin last year. I live in toronto and he was awful. He also started bad this year and only picked it up once Rudy gay was traded. That put the ball in his hands and now Lowry has been amazing the past few weeks. Just shows that fits matters, hence Lin is a lot more efficient when he has the ball. Like Steven said him and harden are very similar, just that harden is on a different level therefore Lin is not a good fit next to him, and Beverley is a great fit.
  • Steven says 8 months ago

    Let's get a few facts straight. Lin shot 45% from the field last year and averaged 13/6, close to his NYK numbers. In the last 3 months of the reg. season he shot 45% from the field and just under 40% from 3 as he was a key player in their run to the playoffs. In the last month of the reg. season he averaged around 17/7. They made the playoffs by 1 game. He succeeded where Lowry, Dragic and others failed. The big missed opportunity for the Rockets is in not realizing just how well Lin played last year, especially from mid-December onwards, or how effective a Harden-Lin partnership could be.

    Lin's best role is to have the offense run through him, Harden's best role is for the offense to run through him. They both can't have the basketball at the same time.

    Lin's best role for this team is to run the second unit. The sooner Beverly gets back healthy, the sooner Lin moves back to run the second unit, which has been stagnant offensively the last few weeks.
  • thenit says 8 months ago Again name a player that was a starter last year that had the same production and make 2-3 million not on a rookie contract. Like I said you can argue he is not worth the full8.3 and and less. But you are just disregarding what he did after the all star break. He wasn't the main reason we made the playoffs but he contributed with decent numbers. Bev didn't beat out Lin in the sense that he outplayed him. It was a just a better fit. There is clearly that Lin is the better overall player and that Bev D is better fit next to harden and Lin will have the ball in his hand. It's like saying Ginobli is not a starter so whoever is playing Sg at spurs is a better player than Ginobli the all those years.

    Just so you don't claim that I'm saying that Lin is Ginobli at the same level I'm not!
  • rm90025 says 8 months ago

    Again , Lin was given that big deal to be a starter. For Bev to even get a shot to take his position means Lin struggled. He shot terrible last year and underperformed. Bev took his spot in the playoffs before Lin got hurt. Even this offseason Bev beat out Lin to stay in the starting lineup. This year Lin has improved, but as a reserve. And that is a big but, Lowry who is way better only makes 6.2 mill, but is a starter.

    Let's get a few facts straight. Lin shot 45% from the field last year and averaged 13/6, close to his NYK numbers. In the last 3 months of the reg. season he shot 45% from the field and just under 40% from 3 as he was a key player in their run to the playoffs. In the last month of the reg. season he averaged around 17/7. They made the playoffs by 1 game. He succeeded where Lowry, Dragic and others failed. The big missed opportunity for the Rockets is in not realizing just how well Lin played last year, especially from mid-December onwards, or how effective a Harden-Lin partnership could be.

  • since86rocketsfan says 8 months ago

    Again , Lin was given that big deal to be a starter. For Bev to even get a shot to take his position means Lin struggled. He shot terrible last year and underperformed. Bev took his spot in the playoffs before Lin got hurt. Even this offseason Bev beat out Lin to stay in the starting lineup. This year Lin has improved, but as a reserve. And that is a big but, Lowry who is way better only makes 6.2 mill, but is a starter.

  • thenit says 8 months ago

    I did not say Morey tried to move Lin to save Trob. I meant if Lin was getting like 2-3 mill, like he was worth last year, we have enough money to sign Howard straight up, and keep Trob, who would of been outplayed by the improved T Jones. We cannot act like Carlos was not productive last year, and that we would of liked to kept him.
    And I know Dragic wanted that extra year, and with his play that year he earned it. After trading Lowry who I loved, I thought it was no way we could loose both. Now you see how great Dragic has played this year, even as he has been teamed up with Bledsoe. That shows how he can play without the ball, and shows he would of played well with Harden. Yes, AB could of been here for injuries, but why draft a point guard. And with how great Morey is in finding talent, he would of plugged somebody else in.

    How many players with Lins numbers and a decent young starting PG that is not on a rookie contract makes 3 million or less that season. You can argue 8.3 is too much but that his value should be that low is just dreaming of getting starters with that production to make 2.5 million.
  • since86rocketsfan says 8 months ago

    I did not say Morey tried to move Lin to save Trob. I meant if Lin was getting like 2-3 mill, like he was worth last year, we have enough money to sign Howard straight up, and keep Trob, who would of been outplayed by the improved T Jones. We cannot act like Carlos was not productive last year, and that we would of liked to kept him.

    And I know Dragic wanted that extra year, and with his play that year he earned it. After trading Lowry who I loved, I thought it was no way we could loose both. Now you see how great Dragic has played this year, even as he has been teamed up with Bledsoe. That shows how he can play without the ball, and shows he would of played well with Harden. Yes, AB could of been here for injuries, but why draft a point guard. And with how great Morey is in finding talent, he would of plugged somebody else in.

  • Buckko says 9 months ago Trob was undersized and far too raw of a tweeter and delfino is out for the year so I can't really care about losing those guys.
  • Sir Thursday says 9 months ago

    I bet he gets $13M on the bottom end if not max.

    Yeah, I think there will be GMs of struggling teams around the league looking to throw money at him. He's one of the only real differences between last year's Suns team and this year's model, and they're leaps and bounds better. You have to give a lot of credit to Hornacek, but what's left probably goes to Bledsoe in the minds of talent evaluators.

    ST

  • Steven says 9 months ago

    It will be interesting to see how much Eric Bledsoe gets on his next contract after this season. Some ESPN Insiders expect $10 million plus. That is the going rate for a quality free agent PG in the NBA.

    I bet he gets $13M on the bottom end if not max.
  • rocketrick says 9 months ago

    It will be interesting to see how much Eric Bledsoe gets on his next contract after this season. Some ESPN Insiders expect $10 million plus. That is the going rate for a quality free agent PG in the NBA.

  • rocketrick says 9 months ago

    And since we signed Lin, I have been saying he is overpaid. When Dragic left we had to get somebody, I would bet any amount of money if Morey knew we were getting Harden he would not of signed Lin. I do not have to talk to Morey to predict his moves, and see what he is trying to do. Bev had a breakout year last year, and Lin had an average year. If Morey was so content with Lin, then why sign AB and draft a point guard, who skillset is built to play with a big man, and who can play without the ball(the main reason why Lin, comes off the bench) Lin's stock was so low, that no teams were interested in him, coming into this season. Do you think when we were trying to clear space to get Howard, Morey did not try and move him. Lin's contract is why we could not sign Howard straight up, and had to trade Trob, and eventually lost Delphino. Can you honestly say that Lin was worth 8 mill last year, at one point his shooting percentage was 30%. Harden saved the day.
    Now this year with Lin's improved play, and league wide injuries, his name is coming up in trade talks. He is a reserve, Parson's is a starter, and is way more valuable to our team.


    (1) Is Lin overpaid? Probably so--especially next season due to the poison pill contract. However, without the poison pill contracts offered to both Lin and Asik there is a real possibility neither player would be a Rocket as their prior teams likely would have matched and kept each of the guys.

    (2) Morey did try to sign Dragic but Dragic wanted that extra year in his contract that Morey and the Rockets were uncomfortable with. Thus Dragic became a Sun. Then the next free agent PG was Jeremy Lin. Whether Morey would have gone after Lin "if he knew" that Harden, then Howard were going to be Rockets later on is pure speculation. It's fun to speculate but that is all anyone can do. For sure, whether Harden or Howard, or both, or neither joined the Rockets, the fact remains the Rockets still needed a PG at the time Morey gave Lin the poison pill offer sheet.

    (3) Why sign AB? Well, I think the proof is clearly in the pudding. Just look at all the injuries the Rockets have dealt with thus far this season. If it weren't for the fact that Morey signed AB, in my opinion the Rockets would be in trouble right now considering all the games that Lin and Beverly have missed, and will miss in the foreseeable future, because of injury. In my opinion, signing AB was not a reflection against Lin, just a smart move that has paid off thus far.

    (4) I doubt Morey tried to move Lin to save T-Rob. Sure, if some other team made an offer Morey couldn't refuse for Lin, sure he would at least have to seriously consider it and possibly have accepted. Regardless, the Rockets still needed PG depth and couldn't simply rely on Beverly, especially with his shortcomings on the offensive end of the court. The trade to get T-Rob was basically to put the Rockets in better position later to sign D12. If T-Rob could have shown any signs of being a worthy starter during his time as a Rocket, that would have made things more difficult for Morey. But that simply didn't materialize. Heck, T-Rob is struggling with the Blazers and recently they have not been playing him at all.

    (5) In terms of Delfino, he was a free agent after last season. No way the Rockets could sign him until after they signed D12. Plus the Rockets knew Delfino had a serious foot injury which is why he has played exactly 0 minutes thus far this season. Lastly, Milwaukee ended up giving him a 3-year deal, something I doubt the Rockets were interested in doing regardless if they signed D12 or not.

    (6) It's not really fair to compare Lin's contract to Parsons' rookie contract. Remember also that Parsons was selected in the 2nd round which is why his contract is such a bonus for the Rockets. This is why Morey and the Rockets value early 2nd round draft picks. Less money, less guaranteed money and possibly better overall value. Morey has done great with his 2nd round draft selections in the past few years. Parsons will get paid after this season, in my opinion, because the Rockets can't risk losing him as an unrestricted free agent after next season.

    (7) Parsons and Lin are 2 different players with different roles on this team. I believe that Coach McHale and the Rockets were on the right track by deciding to start Beverly and have Lin come off the bench as the valuable 6th man. In fact, Coach McHale is currently looking for a spark off the bench that Lin could otherwise provide if it weren't for the fact Lin is needed to start right now due to Beverly's injury. I believe if the Rockets are going to be successful this year in the playoffs, both Parsons and Lin (as well as the other key Rockets players) will each play an important role in our success.
  • thejohnnygold says 9 months ago

    Of course Lebron, Durant,George are ahead of Parson's, they are in there own class. Melo would be #4 because of how great he is on offense, but that is all he offers, because he does not make his teammates better. After that he is in the discussion. His game is so well rounded that Parson's could fit in with any team. Regardless how much of the man, you claim the top three to big, they have elite level players around them.

    And since we signed Lin, I have been saying he is overpaid. When Dragic left we had to get somebody, I would bet any amount of money if Morey knew we were getting Harden he would not of signed Lin. I do not have to talk to Morey to predict his moves, and see what he is trying to do. Bev had a breakout year last year, and Lin had an average year. If Morey was so content with Lin, then why sign AB and draft a point guard, who skillset is built to play with a big man, and who can play without the ball(the main reason why Lin, comes off the bench) Lin's stock was so low, that no teams were interested in him, coming into this season. Do you think when we were trying to clear space to get Howard, Morey did not try and move him. Lin's contract is why we could not sign Howard straight up, and had to trade Trob, and eventually lost Delphino. Can you honestly say that Lin was worth 8 mill last year, at one point his shooting percentage was 30%. Harden saved the day.
    Now this year with Lin's improved play, and league wide injuries, his name is coming up in trade talks. He is a reserve, Parson's is a starter, and is way more valuable to our team.

    You've made such a compelling argument that I simply cannot find it within myself to disagree. Well done.

  • since86rocketsfan says 9 months ago

    Of course Lebron, Durant,George are ahead of Parson's, they are in there own class. Melo would be #4 because of how great he is on offense, but that is all he offers, because he does not make his teammates better. After that he is in the discussion. His game is so well rounded that Parson's could fit in with any team. Regardless how much of the man, you claim the top three to big, they have elite level players around them.

    And since we signed Lin, I have been saying he is overpaid. When Dragic left we had to get somebody, I would bet any amount of money if Morey knew we were getting Harden he would not of signed Lin. I do not have to talk to Morey to predict his moves, and see what he is trying to do. Bev had a breakout year last year, and Lin had an average year. If Morey was so content with Lin, then why sign AB and draft a point guard, who skillset is built to play with a big man, and who can play without the ball(the main reason why Lin, comes off the bench) Lin's stock was so low, that no teams were interested in him, coming into this season. Do you think when we were trying to clear space to get Howard, Morey did not try and move him. Lin's contract is why we could not sign Howard straight up, and had to trade Trob, and eventually lost Delphino. Can you honestly say that Lin was worth 8 mill last year, at one point his shooting percentage was 30%. Harden saved the day.
    Now this year with Lin's improved play, and league wide injuries, his name is coming up in trade talks. He is a reserve, Parson's is a starter, and is way more valuable to our team.

  • feelingsupersonic says 9 months ago Thanks again for all the time you put into Rockets news roundups John. The Rockets Daily has been great and if the next writer can make them half as interesting as you made them they will still be worth the read. Congratulations on the new addition to your family and kids are definitely a time investment that is well worth the sleepless nights and all that, have fun!
  • thejohnnygold says 9 months ago

    Good post, its a shame that Lin has only played one more year then Parsons, but gets nearly 10 times more. Even though Lin has improved this year as a reserve, he was giving that big deal to start. Last year was an average year at best for him, and if we did not get Harden last year, we would of won 20 plus games, and he would of really been exposed. It was a reason Morey brought back AB, and even drafted a point guard, he knew Lin was not worth that deal, and coming into the year was trying to trade him.Again Lin has improved this year, but as a reserve, I know we can get somebody to be just as productive, if not more, for way less money. Parson's is easily a top five small forward in the league and is way more valuable to our team.

    I love the pity that Parsons gets for only making $900K+ It's not serfdom :lol: I'm sure if he was unhappy he could just quit. I just don't get the perspective so many have on this.

    Regarding Lin and the speculation on Morey...One, nobody knows what Morey thinks about Lin except those who share office space with the man. Now, you can say Lin isn't worth the deal, but putting words in Morey's mouth does not lend credence to your statement. As far as trying to trade him--also not true. The closest one can come to validating this is a rumor from a Chicago Bulls beat reporter here and it only says that Morey was making Lin and Asik available--which is totally different. Everyone except Howard and Harden is available on this roster...and Harden cold be had too for a select few.

    I believe Lin is worth his contract. It is a nice luxury having a guy on the bench who can step in and effectively start at PG or SG when needed. Look around the league and you won't find a lot of guys like that--especially with his scoring ability.

    While all these injuries have been a detriment in the present I believe they will help us down the road as our guys will benefit from the experience gained in the process. If we can get to the playoffs at 100% health I think we will be a tough out for any team we face.

    Parsons a top 5 SF? That's subjective so I guess you can lay claim to that. I'd put Paul George, Lebron James, Andre Iguodala, Carmelo (who has been playing PF, but is a SF), and Durant ahead of him. So that is actually 6th place and the Iguodala spot is debatable. Hmmmm, maybe he is a top 5 SF. B) Batum is close as well.

    Here's the thing--of those 5 guys I listed, only Iguodala is not asked to lead his team (his value is on defense obviously). It has been mentioned before and I will point out again--Parsons would struggle to be "the guy".

  • since86rocketsfan says 9 months ago

    Good post, its a shame that Lin has only played one more year then Parsons, but gets nearly 10 times more. Even though Lin has improved this year as a reserve, he was giving that big deal to start. Last year was an average year at best for him, and if we did not get Harden last year, we would of won 20 plus games, and he would of really been exposed. It was a reason Morey brought back AB, and even drafted a point guard, he knew Lin was not worth that deal, and coming into the year was trying to trade him.Again Lin has improved this year, but as a reserve, I know we can get somebody to be just as productive, if not more, for way less money. Parson's is easily a top five small forward in the league and is way more valuable to our team.

  • Steven says 9 months ago Boooooooo. You need to get your priorities straight. ;)

    Congratulation on your child. How much is a Rocket's onezy going for?