Potpourri for August 4, 2014

  • One thing I’ve always found odd is the flurry of questions regarding the medical exception upon injury to a star player.  ”How much do they get?”  ”What are their options?”  ”Will the Pacers land Shawn Marion?”  This is not to point fault at news providers whose job it is to provide such information.  But why do fans even care?  This happened after Yao Ming was ruled out for the season, as well.  Upon news like that, you just pray for the player and start planning for the future.  Short-term contingencies are of little relevance in the grand or even immediate scheme.
  • You have to really feel for the Pacers who, essentially in the span of mere months, lost their three best players with whatever happened to Hibbert, Stephenson’s departure, and now this injury to George.  This time last year, Indiana appeared poised to remain a mainstay in the Eastern Conference over the next half-decade.  Now, it remains to be seen how they’ll even move forward.  And what about the East?  I hope Carmelo Anthony makes good use of the extra money he pocketed by staying in New York, because he would have had a guaranteed path to the Finals for some time had he left to Chicago.  Now, Cleveland looks like it has the inside track.

  • You know how the more time that passes after you’ve been spurned in some situation, the more you start to convince yourself you’re better off?  That’s how I feel now regarding the Parsons-Ariza swap and I’m really beginning to wonder if that’s a product of bargaining or rather, genuinely objective analysis.  Now, to be clear, Houston currently, as things stand, is an inferior team to the one that finished last season, just by virtue of the simple fact of having lost Omer Asik and Jeremy Lin.  But looking at the Ariza-Parsons swap in vacuo of other considerations, I’ve somehow managed to convince myself that Houston ended up with the better player for its team.  I wrote at the end of last season, after one particular loss when Nic Batum and Wes Mathews literally took turns driving into the teeth of the Houston defense, that I was not sure if a Harden-Parsons wing tandem was sustainable long-term.  I think back to that a lot now and wonder.  Age is a wash because Dwight Howard’s prime isn’t too long anyway and Parsons has maxed out his potential regardless.  Ariza is arguably the superior shooter.  The question becomes whether Ariza’s defense adds more to the team than what it will lose in Parson’s playmaking off the pick and roll.  I think it will.
  • I never weighed in on the Parsons-Howard-Harden controversy and maybe it’s too late, but my thoughts: I found the whole thing, particularly Harden’s reaction, extremely peculiar.  To recap, Parsons said he felt disrespected by the Rockets, Howard said Houston wouldn’t really skip a beat, and then Harden one-upped that saying, essentially, only he and Dwight were of relevance, with the other parts being interchangeable.  Now, what Howard and Harden each said was true.  Well, scratch that.  What Harden said was true, maybe not what Howard said.  But in any event, I thought it was really odd that they even said those things because…why?  Why was there even anger directed at all towards Chandler?  It’s not like he bolted.  It’s not like he trashed the team.  He wanted to come back but was told to go seek out an offer.  They can’t fault him for that – he went out and signed the Dallas offer sheet thinking Houston would match, or at the least, knowing that signing an offer sheet was something he had to do.  Moreover, Parsons’ comments were directed towards Houston’s front office, not the team itself.  Dwight Howard maybe, but James Harden does not strike me as a guy who would take offense over someone dragging his general manager through the mud.  Maybe I underestimate Harden.  But that’s how I felt.  So I found the whole thing really odd.  Was there some beef there that we don’t know about?  Probably not because Houston was set to keep Chandler had they gotten Bosh.
  • All that being said, I kind of like it.  Maybe its just wishful thinking, but this is really the first time you’ve sensed ownership from James Harden of not just the team, but of the Harden-Howard pairing.  All along, they’ve seemed to have a very uncomfortable relationship whereby, sure they got along, but it never really seemed like they were the closest of individuals.  You’ve seen the GIF’s of Howard hugging Harden and Harden kind of pushing him away with an annoyed look etc.  And all of that is perfectly fine – you don’t have to be best friends to dominate on the basketball court.  But that bond undoubtedly helps.  This is really the first time he’s even remotely articulately that “Dwight and I are enough” and this is about “Dwight and I.”  That’s important, I think, and sort of exciting.  If they truly embrace each other, they can push each other to greater heights.

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  • Buckko says 1 month ago

    They said not counting major injuries, well PG just had a major injury so the pacers are no longer contenders.

    I am very curious to see Jones' improvements. He will never be an allstar with the stacked amount of superstar forwards in the west, but better defensive (rotations, awareness, post), learning to box out for defensive rebounds, a decent mind range game, and respectable corner 3. He would certainly be all-star talent caliber.

  • Cooper says 1 month ago

    Windows are so unpredictable, last year the pacers looked like a contender for years to come now they might not make the playoffs. okc has been hit by injuries to westbrook/ibaka in years they were serious finals threats now they have only two years before KD can leave.The heat and celtics didn't last very long at the top. As long as Harden is around it will be easy to build a playoff team for sure but its impossible to guess if we will be major contenders.

  • rockets best fan says 1 month ago

    @FSS

    my bad :lol:

  • feelingsupersonic says 1 month ago rockets best fan! That's what I tried to say in the beginning! That I agreed with you two!
  • rockets best fan says 1 month ago

    @FSS

    I agree with JG as D-12 get older the talent around him get a lot better. besides even when D-12 starts to slide down the hill it's not like he will be good one day and wake up the next morning and be worthless......it will be a gradual decline as he approaches his mid thirties. I hope to have a couple of championships in the back pocket by then :)I think we all agree here ....just wording it differently

  • thejohnnygold says 1 month ago

    Not under-estimating Pippen. Was merely drawing a comparison between his role on the Bulls and Ariza's for us. Sorry I offended with the use of the word "elite". By the way, we are also going to have a lanky euro scorer coming off the bench ( a la Toni Kukoc) in Kostas Papanikoloau.

  • timetodienow1234567 says 1 month ago Lol. I think you are underestimating Pippen quite a bit. He's a top 50 NBA player. He nearly led the Bulls to the finals without Jordan. He averaged 22/8.7/5.6 that year. That's a little more than an elite wing defender who can knock down threes. He could guard 1-4 and was underrated throughout his career.

    But to your point we do have a good team but we need players to step up.
  • thejohnnygold says 1 month ago

    In my view, I think that Jones is going to wind up being a very. very good player--maybe not ever an all-star, but somewhere in the ballpark of Paul Millsap or just beneath him--which is fine considering we are most likely going to get the coveted third star Morey wants. He has never let rejection/failure (as so many like to call it) stop him before--why start now? As Dwight ages, the talent around him will rise and I think we will be fine moving forward. Obviously, an injury can derail this, but barring that I think we are set for a while.

    Also, let's not forget the Bulls won 6 titles without a dominant center. What did they have? Role playing PG's, an elite SG, an elite wing defender who could knock down threes, and a PF that played off the ball very well (Grant/Rodman). We've got everything Chicago had PLUS Dwight Howard....time to let it simmer and see what Morey has cooked up. We just need our version of Tex Winters and we're in business. Speaking of, isn't it time to hire a new asst. coach?

  • feelingsupersonic says 1 month ago Well let's just say you aren't panicking right? That's kind of what I meant.

    So are you two years then?
  • rockets best fan says 1 month ago

    @FSS

    I'm urgent about the Rockets window, but not David West urgent :)

  • feelingsupersonic says 1 month ago I also disagree with Rahat and others who are more urgent about the Rockets window. The Rockets window is as long as Harden remains a Rocket in my opinion, I believe Howard stays with Harden as he is the greatest player he has teamed up with. That's nothing to sneeze at plus Howard loves Houston off the court.
  • rockets best fan says 1 month ago

    @JG

    I agree. our window is larger than 2 years. I also agree West salary will hamper future moves for marginal gain in return. since I don't see West walking away from his player option year after next, that means we get a 12 mil dollar anvil for the next two years........no thanks. your point that we must give up additional talent to acquire him makes the decision a landslide. David who? :lol:

  • thejohnnygold says 1 month ago

    JG: Jones is definitely more valuable and has the higher upside, but you could argue that given our window, West's shelf life doesn't really matter.

    That presumes we agree on our window. I think it is wider than 2 years.

  • Red94 says 1 month ago

    JG: Jones is definitely more valuable and has the higher upside, but you could argue that given our window, West's shelf life doesn't really matter.

  • rockets best fan says 1 month ago

    @thenit

    OK .........I agree to disagree. as for as the pace consider this as well West is the 2nd option most of the time within the Pacers system. the Pacers try to get Hibbert involved but if unsuccessful West become 2nd option after George. yet he only shoots 48% from the field compared to 54% for T-Jones. T-Jones was 4th option on most nights with us. this means West has more opportunities/touches and is less efficient with those touches

  • feelingsupersonic says 1 month ago I agree rockets best fan. West is pretty much finished and if he came back to the Western Conference he would get beat down. He might be able to play some spot defense in the playoffs but would he last 100 games in the West, no way, he's entering his mid thirties. Furthermore in reference to pace I have serious doubts David West would fit in the Rockets scheme.

    As far as defending Aldridge, who was only amazing those first two games and human the rest, there's one of the reasons Dorsey and Adrien were brought in by Morey. Getting David West to defend Aldridge or looking through that lens to analyze a big picture is classic NBA fan knee jerk reaction. It's not realistic discussion but I guess it can be fun for some to discuss when they go into fantasy GM mode.

    Just my opinions.
  • thenit says 1 month ago The pace matters because it's inflates ppg, rbg etc because there are a lot more possessions. We will agree to disagree on the other stuff.
  • rockets best fan says 1 month ago

    @thenit

    1.yeah we play at a faster pace, but what does that have to do with the price of tea in China?

    2. "West is a better defender"............I disagree. West stats must be viewed through the lens of the conference he plays in. he only sees LMA twice a year. same with Blake Griffin, Z-Bo, Duncan, Ibaka, Love, and Dirk. whereas T-Jones plays most of them 4 times a year. instead West gets the luxury of playing four times a year against the scrub PF's of the east. so I would expect him to have a better defensive rating, but that doesn't mean he is actually a better defender. his experience helps him but it's not like he is a shut down defender. western conference PF's will find little trouble scoring on West. he's not tall enough to stop LMA, Dirk and Duncan. not quick enough to stop Blake. I think his defensive abilities are being viewed out of context

    3.this comes down to role on the team. we are asking T-Jones to do different things than West is producing. our offensive system is geared away from midrange shots and we aren't asking him to post up. we have D-12 for that.

  • thenit says 1 month ago 1.We play at way faster pace than Indiana who is offensively challenged.

    2. West is far superior defender and would not have let LMA back him down to the rim.

    3. He shoots midrange shots and can post up better than jones.

    I think jones will eventually develop into a better player and offensively you can argue there isn't much difference but jones is not strong enough and his rotation on D is not there yet. Jones will get there, but I don't see him being a stud.

    I actually think DMo will have a better career than jones when we look 10 years into the future.
  • rockets best fan says 1 month ago

    is T-Jones better than West?...............lets take a peek

    T-Jones average 12.1 ppg 6.9 rpg shot 54% from the field had 1.1 apg 0.7 steals per game 1.3 blocks per game with a PER of 19.4

    West average 14 ppg 6.8rpg shot 48% from the field had 2.8 apg 0.8 steals per game 0.9 blocks per game with a PER of 17.5

    T-Jones is a more efficient shooter slightly better rebounder and a better shot blocker while West gets slightly more steals and more assist.

    T-Jones is better IMO and that's before we even take salary into account. once we consider that factor......T-Jones wins in a landslide. in addition to that..........consider T-Jones plays in the west while West plays in the Leastern conference........any questions?

  • thenit says 1 month ago

    I'm not arguing for a trade, just arguing against people who claims that Jones is already better than West today. I wasn't clear on that. But that's my opinion.

  • thejohnnygold says 1 month ago

    I cannot wait for Jones to put all this to rest with his play. By season's end zero people on here will wish we had traded for David West or think it would have been a good idea.

    This is not a question ofone game or evenone season. It is a long term decision and bringing in West destroys the long term. It's not about Jones being better than Westright this second.

    For all the cries to develop our own talent I am surprised by how many people want to bring in a veteran with 1-2 years left in the tank at $12M who will clog our cap, will only improve us marginally, and will crush any chance of Jones developing into the player we want him to be. On top of all that, we have to TRADE for him--costing us more talent.

    Does anyone here think replacing Jones with West puts us over the top and into full championship contention? Because that's what you'd be betting on if that trade went down. No. I don't think he is the piece.

  • thenit says 1 month ago

    Ask this question, who did you want in last years game? West or Jones against LMA? Its a no brainer, and its the same this year. I pick West TODAY and for this season if everything is equal when it comes to salary. Jones is obviously the better pick looking at the future, but that is a few years away and its still a maybe in my opinion whether he develops into a stud PF.

  • rocketrick says 1 month ago C'mon Guys, David West from 4-8 years ago is clearly better than our TJones.

    However, since those days, games, Titles are Finalized with no chance whatsoever of a change, I would dare to say that TJones today and tomorrow has a much, much brighter future than David West.

    So are we discussing the future or the past?

    Unbelievable.
  • txtdo1411 says 1 month ago

    I would disagree that Jones is currently better than West. Jones just isn't good enough on the boards and on defense against bigger power forwards. I do however agree that trading Jones for West would be a mistake. Jones isn't too far off from being a very good PF. As long as he has the jump you typically see from 1st to 2nd year starters, next year he should be very close to West in terms of production. With his rookie contract, and the fact he is only 22 years old, I believe we have another great bargain deal for a productive starter that should only get better.

  • rockets best fan says 1 month ago

    @TTDN

    YES.......T-Jones has better overall abilities than West. West has the experience edge........nothing more. T-Jones ceiling is higher than that of West IMO. homerism ? you believe West is Better? have you looked at their stats.......T-Jones are better and he plays in the western conference compared toWest'sleastern conference creampuffs at PF. it's easy to make a case T-Jones is better already and he's just scratching the surface of his talent whereasWest has begun sliding down the hill

  • timetodienow1234567 says 1 month ago T jones has more potential than west.

    If you guys are saying that Jones is better than West, wow. Talk about homerism.

    I understand that for the price tag and what we'd have to give up, jones is the better option, but I don't see how you can argue jones is better than West.
  • rockets best fan says 1 month ago

    @Buckko

    IMO the only thing West has on T-Jones is experience because T-jones has far more overall abilities

  • Buckko says 1 month ago 12m is a lot for a matchup guy.
  • rockets best fan says 1 month ago

    @rocketrick

    agreed...................... I change my mind. :) 12 mil is to much to pay for a backup..........especially one who can not stop the LMA, Blake Griffin's of the world. that's why PF is not my area of focus this summer. there just doesn't seem to be good "pickens" PG is what we need to chase right now. the "PICKENS" look pretty good on that front. ifwe took West he would have to come pretty cheap because A. the salary isn't right as you mention and B. he's not that good on defense......especially against western conference PF's.

  • Jatman20 says 1 month ago

    Report yesterday (08/04/14) on Marion visiting Cleveland. Today a nice article on a site about Morey waiting on seeing what the Suns do with Bledsoe.

    The article notes the bottle-neck abundance of PGs/combo guards in Phoenix.

    The Rockets trade exception from Lin puts Houston in position to move on Dragic or a part of a three-way trade if the Pacers go after a SF like Boston's Jeff Green. Dragic would be nice as a creator sporting a PER over 20.


    I wanted to add a side-note to the stats I put yesterday where Parsons had a good Assist% (A-10.8 to P-17.3) vs Ariza. Ariza did sport an assist % 09-10 (Hou 16.7-72 games) and 11-12 (NOH 16.8-41 games).....so Ariza is capable of presenting a higher assist % than last year.

  • rocketrick says 1 month ago

    Because, unless CJ Watson can come in and run that offense, they can't score enough to win many games. They lost Stephenson (their best creator) and George. Hill is not up to the task. Hibbert is Hibbert. West can only do so much. What's left? Chris Copeland and Rodney Stuckey?

    For a team that is over the cap, passing off the remainder of West's $25M/2 yr. contract would make sense if they got young talent in return. Personally, I don't make that deal because I'm high on Terrence Jones and because it caps us out, but I can see why Indy would do it.

    Would anyone trade our entire '14 draft class for West? Capela, Johnson, and Gentile? That would be a win-win for both parties. Tough trade for us--that's a lot of potential talent for two years of David West--but he's the kind of guy you need to take on the western conference in the playoffs. Not saying I'd do the trade....but I would think about it for an agonizing amount of time.....and then probably do it.....and then immediately regret it.... :lol:


    No doubt losing Paul George for the entire season as being reported hurts Indiana tremendously.

    Indiana is probably better off either way without Lance Stephenson as he seems to be a head case. I hope he can turn it around, he certainly has plenty of talent to succeed in the NBA.

    I read somewhere that Hibbert is working with Jabbar this offseason. If he can return to the Hibbert we saw in the 2011-12 and 2012-13 playoffs (averaging slightly more than 15 points and slightly more than 10 rebounds) and possibly get more scoring opportunities without Paul George on the floor, he and David West are a pretty imposing front line.

    George Hill is a terrible PG and I think he would be better suited as the 2 guard depending on game to game matchups. Pair George Hill with Stuckey or CJ Watson bringing up the ball and that might be good enough in the weak Eastern Conference.

    CJ Miles, Ian Mahinmi and Chris Copeland are serviceable NBA players, too. For sure the Pacers need to add a couple of other players via trade or minimum salary that can contribute, too, in Paul George's absence.

    I just think that Indiana has plenty left to still make the playoffs without Paul George. And what if Paul George is able to return by March? Probably unlikely but who knows.

    I just don't see Indiana blowing up the team and starting over while Paul George mends.
  • rocketrick says 1 month ago

    @Buckko
    I wouldn't mind having West.............I just don't want to trade T-Jones to get him. also if we acquire him I want him to come off the pine behind T-Jones. West is not part of our future so no need to stunt T-Jones growth. we can use West for matchup problems for T-Jones and bench scoring


    $12 million per for a backup? I'd pass.
  • rockets best fan says 1 month ago

    @Buckko

    I wouldn't mind having West.............I just don't want to trade T-Jones to get him. also if we acquire him I want him to come off the pine behind T-Jones. West is not part of our future so no need to stunt T-Jones growth. we can use West for matchup problems for T-Jones and bench scoring

  • Buckko says 1 month ago

    West is too old, and the price tag too big. I would not trade jones. If he develops a corner 3 and learns the fundamentals of defense, he could be huge. Probably make us a far better team than last year with ariza.

  • rockets best fan says 1 month ago

    @JG

    I agree..................I would not trade T-Jones for D-West. T-Jones is on the cusp of surpassing what West is. West may be a veteran, but T-Jones has more raw talent. West has this coming season and then a player option for the following year both at 12 mil per. that's to much for West. he plays decent defense, but will have his problems with the PF's in the west just like T-Jones. well may be not to the level of T-Jones, but West won't be able to stop LMA, Griffin, Z-Bo or Dirk either. I say lets ride out PF and upgrade PG. IMO if we upgrade PG, the new PG will help T-Jones game. both D-12 and T-Jones would blossom better with a floor general who is capable of getting them the ball where they need it. IMO we have the tools in our toolbox. we need a facilitator who can utilize what we have

  • Cooper says 1 month ago

    The pacers should blow it up, they struggled to score with PG and Lance, next year they will be unwatchable on offense. They won't pay the tax so they can't add anyone good. Hibbert has an opt out clause and if he does anything useful next year he likely opts out to lock up long term money.West and Hill make too much money and they have no good prospects. I like the idea of West and then getting one more guy in another trade, west on his own probably isn't enough to make a big difference.

  • thejohnnygold says 1 month ago

    I'm very confused.

    Why do you and a significant number of others think that all of a sudden the Indiana Pacers want to blow everything up just because Paul George is out for 1 season?

    I for one wouldn't at all be surprised if Indiana makes some noise in the L'eastern Conference this season just because.

    Because, unless CJ Watson can come in and run that offense, they can't score enough to win many games. They lost Stephenson (their best creator) and George. Hill is not up to the task. Hibbert is Hibbert. West can only do so much. What's left? Chris Copeland and Rodney Stuckey?

    For a team that is over the cap, passing off the remainder of West's $25M/2 yr. contract would make sense if they got young talent in return. Personally, I don't make that deal because I'm high on Terrence Jones and because it caps us out, but I can see why Indy would do it.

    Would anyone trade our entire '14 draft class for West? Capela, Johnson, and Gentile? That would be a win-win for both parties. Tough trade for us--that's a lot of potential talent for two years of David West--but he's the kind of guy you need to take on the western conference in the playoffs. Not saying I'd do the trade....but I would think about it for an agonizing amount of time.....and then probably do it.....and then immediately regret it.... :lol:

  • rocketrick says 1 month ago

    I go back and forth on David West. On the one hand, a hard-nosed power forward like him would be close to a perfect fit on this team. On the other hand, at that pricetag...? Then back on the first hand, why not? He spreads the floor, brings accountability...

    With Indiana in tank mode most likely, you could probably get him straight up for Terrence Jones (absorbing him into the rest of your remaining space). I know I've been tough on Terrence Jones, but with his expected growth this year, I'm not completely sure that's a deal I'd make. I'd do it if I knew I could get someone else with the Pelicans pick.

    For instance, if you could get Dragic or Rondo with the Pelicans pick (and absorb them into your cap space), and then trade Terrence Jones and all of those non guaranteed contracts you've been hoarding for David West, that's a scenario you roll with.

    West, Ariza, Howard, Harden, Dragic/Rondo might actually be more potent than the Bosh lineup. And its feasible, I think.


    I'm very confused.

    Why do you and a significant number of others think that all of a sudden the Indiana Pacers want to blow everything up just because Paul George is out for 1 season?

    I for one wouldn't at all be surprised if Indiana makes some noise in the L'eastern Conference this season just because.
  • redfaithful says 1 month ago

    The last lineup indeed looks VERY strong on paper. However, it's only feasible towards mid-season, when the relevant trade partners realize what they have in hand and how Rockets offers help them.

  • Red94 says 1 month ago

    I go back and forth on David West. On the one hand, a hard-nosed power forward like him would be close to a perfect fit on this team. On the other hand, at that pricetag...? Then back on the first hand, why not? He spreads the floor, brings accountability...

    With Indiana in tank mode most likely, you could probably get him straight up for Terrence Jones (absorbing him into the rest of your remaining space). I know I've been tough on Terrence Jones, but with his expected growth this year, I'm not completely sure that's a deal I'd make. I'd do it if I knew I could get someone else with the Pelicans pick.

    For instance, if you could get Dragic or Rondo with the Pelicans pick (and absorb them into your cap space), and then trade Terrence Jones and all of those non guaranteed contracts you've been hoarding for David West, that's a scenario you roll with.

    West, Ariza, Howard, Harden, Dragic/Rondo might actually be more potent than the Bosh lineup. And its feasible, I think.

  • Buckko says 1 month ago

    Ariza is a far better defensive rebounder than parsons at DRB% 16.3 to 12.8, which defensive rebounding was a major point of weakness for the rockets last year.

  • Jatman20 says 1 month ago It's unbelievable how close Ariza and Parsons stats are(per Basketball-Reference.com) so even............................actually Parsons posted 4.0 assists per game. 1.5 more than Ariza/game. .................. Here are the worthless stat comparisons:
    Ariza: PER 15.8...TS% .590...eFG% .562...TRB% 10.1...Ast% 10.8...Stl% 2.4...Blk% .6...TOV% 12.3...ORtg 113....DRtg 104.......WS 8.0....WS/48 .141
    Parsons:PER15.9..TS%.565..eFG% .538...TRB% 8.2....Ast%. 17.3..Stl% 1.6...Blk% .8...TOV% 11.7...ORtg 114....DRtg 108.......WS 7.6....WS/48 .131

    Ariza: Pts 14.4..Rebs 6.2...Ast 2.5...FG% 45.6%...PIE 10.7%......Parsons: Pts 16.6...Rebs 5.5...Ast 4.0...FG% 47.2%...PIE 11.1% ........................................................................ ................................................................... ..........Shooting category ............................................... ............................
    Ariza:.....2P 50.9%...0-3 65.0%...3-10 30.0%...10-16 21.4%...16>3 41.5% 3P 40.7%..(Hou likes Dunk/3 ft and 3P's which Ariza can supply)..............
    Parsons:2P 52.8%...0-3 64.4%...3-10 42.0%...10-16 42.9%...16>3 33.3% 3P 37.0%.....Shot Chart on NBA.com on both favors Ariza IMO.
    The first go-a-round with Houston Ariza was immature and quite. Ariza of last year was a leader on the court who communicated well, esp on defense.
  • Steven says 1 month ago

    When did this become a fact...?

    2009
  • rockets best fan says 1 month ago

    @bladad

    I think Parsons as a facilitator is overblown. Yes he had 5 assist a game, but mostly from secondary passes or assist to T-Jones cutting to the bucket. IMO that's replaceable. what we lose in Parsons facilitating is outweighed by improved defense atthe SFposition, especially if we bring in a floor general PG to handle the facilitating duties.

  • bladad says 1 month ago

    Canaan is better then Lin, so the only person the Rockets will miss is Asik. I think D-Mo kills it this season, making everyone forget about stone hands.

    When did this become a fact...?

    @RBF
    The team thrived on offense last year, not defense. Ariza can provide the spacing necessary with the ability to shoot the three. He has not shown the ability to consistently initiate his own offense and facilitate the offense like Parsons has in the past. Who knows though. a 3 and D guy might be exactly what the Rox need to compete in the West...

  • rockets best fan says 1 month ago

    @Rahat

    I didn't have to convince myself............from the moment we signed Ariza I felt we were better off at the SF position. the falloff of Parsons defensively made him and Harden a bad match. oneof the two (SF or SG) as to be a defender or your wing defense is garbage. that's the conclusion I had arrived at. Harden is elite offensively Parsons isn't which made him replaceable. I wasn't as upset about Parsons leaving as some others were here. sure I would have liked to have kept him, but not at that price. besides I still can't get over the fact he was partying with Cuban. I know it's silly, but I would have felt better if he had done that with anybody but Cuban.

    while the Bosh scenario made us consider keeping Parsons, from the moment he signed that contract his relationship in Houston was damaged. if he had just sign for the money without all the player options and trade kickers we might have kept him, but probably would have traded him later. Parsons agent knew that hence him getting that put in the deal. Parsons and his agent were trying to force the Rockets to accept Parsons as their 3rd star. however Parsons isn't a star and paying him as such probably meant we would have capped our potential ceiling as a team

  • thejohnnygold says 1 month ago

    I agree that West is not a good move for us.

    And "stone hands" made me think of this... :lol:

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  • Steven says 1 month ago Canaan is better then Lin, so the only person the Rockets will miss is Asik. I think D-Mo kills it this season, making everyone forget about stone hands.
  • Buckko says 1 month ago His contract is 12m. Too much for not enough production, I'd rather wait and see our PF's improvements.
  • John P says 1 month ago

    any chance we could get Indiana's PF West out of their inevitable rebuild? ...too soon? sorry to pick over the bones of a dead animal but with at least one year gone of George...and probably lost athleticism to boot, and Stephenson, I just don't see why they don't try to blow it up and start over.

    Anyway, West can add some much needed toughness and leadership, and has a decent midrange game to give Howard and Harden some spacing. Thoughts?

  • redfaithful says 1 month ago

    What I find exciting is the Rockets' salary page (http://www.basketballinsiders.com/houston-rockets-team-salary/), where you can see a team that can fight for home court advantage in the playoffs, and has about $7.5M in cap space and $8.3M trade exception.

    Unexpected events such as PG's horrible injury, PHX's strange PG situation and failed rebuilds (DET?, SAC?) could result in major upgrades through trades between Christmas and the trade deadline.