Huq’s Pen: The calm before the storm on the Asik front

Unlike yesterday when Jeff Green’s name started really making the rounds, there isn’t really anything new to report that hasn’t been mentioned.  That’s why I’ve decided to compose a random stream of consciousness of my thoughts at this hour to fill the time.  If you’re looking for updates, you won’t find any on this particular page.

  • I’ve mentioned this a few times, but is there any player in the league regarding whom there is greater variance between actual ability and fan perception than Omer Asik?  You gotta see some of the stuff that’s come up on my timeline: opposing fans think this guy is a complete scrub with bad hair.  After I tweeted about the Aldridge report hinting at a Cavs swap involving Varejao, someone from the Cavs end actually said they’d only do it if Parsons were included too and even then, “maybe.”  Uhhh, what.

  • To the point above, because he doesn’t put up big numbers and looks like one of the least coordinated human beings alive on the offensive end, people think this guy is a complete scrub and like Zan Tabak at best.  In actuality, we are talking about a guy who single-handedly anchored one of the worst defensive units in basketball into respectability during the time of his presence.  I don’t think it’s grasped how big a deal that is.  
  • And to the point above, it’s an odd situation with Philly because Asik would instantly make them better, thereby hurting them in the long run.
  • BTW, how can his hair look so good when he’s inactive, sitting on the bench yet appear like such a trainwreck when out on the court?  Kind of odd that he doesn’t take the time to groom it before games whereas guys like Parsons and Motiejunas still go through the energy to sculp their locks into those cone shaped forms.
  • Am I the only one out there that cringes every time Spencer Hawes’ name comes up as the main piece in an Asik deal?  Look, I like Spencer Hawes, Spencer Hawes is a nice player who can shoot the ’3′, and Spencer Hawes would fill a need at backup.  But the thought of trading a backup center for a crappier backup center literally makes me sick.
  • I think I wrote about this earlier in the week (but who really can even remember as far back as this morning?) but my favorite fake trade rumors/suggestions surround the ones that came out of Dallas where the Rockets would take back Samuel Dalembert and Vince Carter for Omer….because, you know, we need a backup center since we have to trade our backup center and I guess Vince Carter uhhh fills a need too.  Right.  While we’re at it, lets think of trades from the other 20-something teams where they trade us their backup center and whatever bag of crap they can compile.  That would make a ton of sense.
  • All the reports out there are so underwhelming that I’m actually praying they somehow pull out a surprise and trade for Rondo even though I know that would be a complete disaster and that Rajon Rondo is possibly the worst fit in the entire league for a guard playing next to James Harden.  But if you’re telling me to choose between Rondo and like…Spencer Hawes, bring on Rondo!  Can you tell I’m in a bitter mood?  You should be too.  We’re hours away from losing an elite rim protector for 50 cents on the dollar.  This whole situation makes me sick.
  • Though, of course, trust in Morey, because he almost always extracts the fullest out of these sorts of auctions.  I thought it would take the Rockets a future first to get anyone to take Thomas Robinson or Royce White off their hands and that didn’t happen in either case.  With the McGrady auction back what seems like thirty years ago, the reports heading up to the deadline involved extremely underwhelming packages like Tyrus Thomas.  In actuality, recall that Morey ended up extracting what appeared to be a king’s ransom at the time, getting back former lottery pick Jordan Hill and two likely future lottery picks from the Knicks.  Now, obviously, Jordan Hill turned out to suck and those picks weren’t as high as we thought they’d be, but at the time, it was damn good value.
  • Seriously, this is depressing.
  • Can you believe that back in, I think it was like 1998, the Rockets got back two pretty damn good first round picks (which turned out to be the infamous Bryce Drew and Mirsad Turkcan) in return for a 53-year-old Kevin Willis?  And now we are basically hoping to get back even one future pick for the 27-year-old Asik?  Those were kinder days.
  • I’d be happy with Jeff Green.  Really happy.  I don’t think I even care about future flexibility right now.  Give me Jeff Green.
  • The scenario that gives me hope is the Bobcats with their willingness, reportedly, to trade picks for another run with mediocrity.
  • I think it’s going to be something like Spencer Hawes and two picks in a three-way.  Well, I don’t know.  But Morey will surprise us.
  • Back in ’09, I don’t think anyone saw Carl Landry included in the maneuvering when he was ultimately dealt for Kevin Martin prior to the Knicks’ involvement.  What would be the equivalent of that, right now, in terms of shock value?  Not Jeremy Lin because that’s been rumored.  Maybe Chandler?  Maybe a multi-team deal where they trade Chandler and Omer and get back Jeff Green, Hawes, and picks and then flip the picks.  But that couldn’t work as CavsFan will tell you, Chandler+Omer might not even be enough to get you Anderson Varejao…
  • I’m going to miss Omer.  I remember my first conversation with the guy.  It also happened to be my only conversation with the guy.  It consisted of him smiling awkwardly appearing to regret even coming into the lockerroom with me smiling awkwardly regretting I had even approached him.
  • My favorite Omer play is where he spins baseline and then airballs the layup at the other side of the basket.  Or remember when he’d lay it up gently when the situation would warrant a dunk from any other marginally coordinated human being….and then later in the year, last year, it became obvious they started stressing to him to dunk the ball in those situations so he’d slam it down with authority but even the dunk looked hideous…?  God, I will miss that.  My favorite play of the season came from the short lived Twin Towers era where, at least once each game, Omer would catch a pass near the rim and expectedly airball the layup, but then Dwight would grab the rebound and miss the putback as well.  Like clockwork, you could expect this to happen at least once every game.

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  • rocketrick says 7 months ago

    Of course they were somewhat aware of the situation. But when Omer signed that contract before we got Harden. That trade changed everything. You remember when D12 rejected the trade to Houston when we offered everything we had to Orlando, and it was a done deal but Howard didn't want to come here. Until we got Harden the chances of us getting D12 in FA was close to 0 with his age and everything he wouldn't sign with a rebuilding team.

    Its an ego thing and you don't become an elite athlete without one, so a demotion is a lot harder to take when you are young and still developing, especially when he was the biggest reason we made the post season. Without Asik we don't make it, because harden can't score enough to make up for what Asik did to cover up for everyone.

    For sure I agree that D12 would not be in Houston were it not the fact that Harden was here.

    For sure I agree that Asik played a key role in the Rockets success last season including a playoff series.

    Were the Rockets to have stood pat at the 5 position and stopped continuing to pursue D12 after signing Asik, would that have been the smart business and basketball move to make? Apparently Asik believes that should have been the case.

    I say no because any successful NBA franchise should always continue looking for ways to improve their roster and thus their chances at winning the prize at the end of the year.

  • thenit says 7 months ago

    Imagine the complete last season with G Smith as the center and Dmo backing him up anchoring the D. How poor was our D rating when he was not on the court. For us to make the playoffs we would have to score 150 a game the rest of the team played D

  • thenit says 7 months ago

    Lol maybe,

    but my opinion is that him and Harden had equal share. Without Harden's offense we don't make it. Without Asik we don't make it either. So yes the biggest reason 50% and the other 50% to Harden

  • feelingsupersonic says 7 months ago Asik the biggest reason? Come on, wow, maybe in inches.
  • thenit says 7 months ago

    Of course they were somewhat aware of the situation. But when Omer signed that contract before we got Harden. That trade changed everything. You remember when D12 rejected the trade to Houston when we offered everything we had to Orlando, and it was a done deal but Howard didn't want to come here. Until we got Harden the chances of us getting D12 in FA was close to 0 with his age and everything he wouldn't sign with a rebuilding team.

    Its an ego thing and you don't become an elite athlete without one, so a demotion is a lot harder to take when you are young and still developing, especially when he was the biggest reason we made the post season. Without Asik we don't make it, because harden can't score enough to make up for what Asik did to cover up for everyone.

  • rocketrick says 7 months ago

    I don't think they knew houston would get Howard. When they sold him on coming to houston you don't say hey we would like you to be a starter and next year you take a backseat.

    It's a business for the players so I don't blame them even though I don't like it. How many times have you heard people they should give home town discount or sign for less? But if you do sign for less and shorter term and get injured or performs worse, they would drop you like a old dish rag.

    I hope e get a resolution soon so we can out this behind us


    At minimum, Asik's agent should have known the Rockets had been pursuing D12 for awhile before Summer 2012 when Asik signed the offer sheet provided by the Rockets. I would be shocked if both Asik and his agent were interviewed down the road and claimed they knew nothing at all of the Rockets continued interest level and pursuit of D12. Surely, one or both could have, or should have, at minimum asked for an update at the time the offer sheet was put in front of them and whether or not the Rockets intended to continue pursuing D12 whether or not Asik signed the offer sheet. There was continuous media reports the Rockets #1 free agent target was D12.

    I don't have any direct proof, but I would bet that both sides were willing to gamble at that date due to D12 even stating numerous times how uncertain he was on his future, etc. I contend the Rockets set a floor for the 5 position by pursuing Asik and placing an offer sheet in front of him. Worst case scenario, D12 eventually signs elsewhere and the Rockets still have Asik under contract. Best case scenario is what we have been witnessing the past couple of months with the caveat that I doubt even the Rockets ever thought Asik would be so vocal in demanding a trade and even right from the very start immediately after the Rockets signed D12 this past summer.

    Well, hopefully there can be a final resolution in the next 24 hours. That would be best for all concerned. I wished the Rockets had the option of retaining Asik. I guess technically they do. However, I think he would continue to be a negative influence going forward in the locker room and everyone knows it.
  • thenit says 7 months ago I don't think they knew houston would get Howard. When they sold him on coming to houston you don't say hey we would like you to be a starter and next year you take a backseat.

    It's a business for the players so I don't blame them even though I don't like it. How many times have you heard people they should give home town discount or sign for less? But if you do sign for less and shorter term and get injured or performs worse, they would drop you like a old dish rag.

    I hope e get a resolution soon so we can out this behind us
  • rocketrick says 7 months ago

    It seems like a lot of people turned on Omer for asking for a trade...........Who among us would want to play 15 minutes a night while diminishing their future earning potential? Come on guys. He's obviously handled this a little poorly, but it's in his "best" interest to push for a trade. If he wanted to be a backup he'd have stayed with Chicago or signed somewhere else.


    For less money---remaining a backup, that is. I assume Asik and his agent knew all along that the Rockets would continue pursuing D12 and that was the gamble Asik took. Much like the Rockets wanted to set a floor by signing Asik as their C just in case D12 chose to stay in LA or go elsewhere.

    It is disappointing how Asik has handled this. I'm certainly not at all mad that he wants out. Because you are absolutely correct. Asik's best interest going forward is being someone's starting 5 in order to maximize his future earnings.

    In the end, perhaps everything was meant to be including Asik and his agent being so vocal in demanding to be traded. For sure, there can be no doubt that everyone and anyone involved in the NBA knows Asik absolutely wants out.

    It must be difficult for the Rockets players and coaches to have to deal with all of this since basically the beginning of the season.

    It should be a huge relief for all concerned once this matter is closed and I would expect that the Rockets players still left after this trade to begin earnestly to start developing the necessary trust and team chemistry amongst each others and their coaches.
  • timetodienow1234567 says 7 months ago

    It seems like a lot of people turned on Omer for asking for a trade...........Who among us would want to play 15 minutes a night while diminishing their future earning potential? Come on guys. He's obviously handled this a little poorly, but it's in his "best" interest to push for a trade. If he wanted to be a backup he'd have stayed with Chicago or signed somewhere else.

  • bboley24 says 7 months ago

    This sounds awful but, I am happy that Osik is going to a worthless team. Now he can be numero uno, on a team full of numero doses.

  • rocketrick says 7 months ago

    OK, after thinking I will offer this as my only valid point. Elite defensive centers are rare and an easier commodity to barter with than a point guard coming off a major injury with the reputation of not being able to shoot and being a headache for coaches in a league filled with very good pg's.

    Other than that, I've got nothing. :P


    Yes, definitely a lot of quality PG's in the NBA right now. However, still a number of teams out there that would like to improve their current PG situation. Bulls and Lakers immediately come to mind.
  • rocketrick says 7 months ago

    OK, after thinking I will offer this as my only valid point. Elite defensive centers are rare and an easier commodity to barter with than a point guard coming off a major injury with the reputation of not being able to shoot and being a headache for coaches in a league filled with very good pg's.

    Other than that, I've got nothing. :P


    Valid point, yet Asik is unusual in having that $15 million salary next season which some teams simply cannot or will not stomach. Then the fact Asik immediately becomes a free agent at the end of earning $15 million next season. What then?

    Rondo is a NBA champion in part due to his efforts but truthfully also because he had 3 Hall of Famers surrounding him in Garnett, Pierce and Ray Allen and another Hall of Famer on the bench, Doc Rivers.

    If Boston at some point decides to rebuild around other players, then they will move Rondo and probably other pieces at that time. Right now, Boston does have some luxury in regards to time since Rondo is still recovering from his surgery. Perhaps they decide to rebuild around Rondo, not likely, but not totally inconceivable at this moment, either.
  • thejohnnygold says 7 months ago

    OK, after thinking I will offer this as my only valid point. Elite defensive centers are rare and an easier commodity to barter with than a point guard coming off a major injury with the reputation of not being able to shoot and being a headache for coaches in a league filled with very good pg's.

    Other than that, I've got nothing. :P

  • rocketrick says 7 months ago

    Of course there is the question of, "why not just trade Rondo + Green together"? It's a good question. I'll need time to think on this one... :)


    That's what I was thinking in my mind but didn't make quite clear enough in my response. Rondo + Green should give the Celtics really good value in return, especially if they don't rush things and just take the first thing offered them, ie, Asik and a minor piece for Rondo, etc.
  • rocketrick says 7 months ago

    I'd seriously doubt Durant doesn't test free agency unless Westbrook decides to re up with him.


    Good point and more complicated since Westbrook's contract is 1 year longer than Durant's.

    Durant would obviously make the most money by signing for the max and staying in OKC. OKC has to wonder, though, especially after witnessing D12 pass on the extra year and more guaranteed money by instead choosing Houston over LA.
  • thejohnnygold says 7 months ago

    Also a quite valid point regarding Rajon Rondo. The Celtics will need to make a decision one way or the other. I just don't see the Celtics moving Rondo for Asik and another piece just to watch the Rockets and Morey flip Rondo for more in February when the Celtics themselves should be able to obtain better value for Rondo in my opinion vs. trading him to the Rockets now. Assuming, of course, the Celtics determine that is the best course for them. Who knows, they may end up deciding to build around Rondo although currently that doesn't seem set in concrete.

    It's a valid question. I think it makes sense because Omer Asik + Jeff Green is worth more than Rondo alone. In fact, Rondo is not exactly an easy sell. Morey would be taking a risk (albeit a small one) because of Rondo's reputation as tough to get along with. Certainly this will scare away some GM's. Further problems arise from the fact that so many teams have their "PG of the future"...at least for now.

    Of course there is the question of, "why not just trade Rondo + Green together"? It's a good question. I'll need time to think on this one... :)

  • Cooper says 7 months ago

    Durant is signed through 2015-16 season which is only 2 years after this season. I assume they will likely re-sign him before the end of 2015-16 to prevent him from testing free agency. So salary cap is definitely an ongoing concern for OKC especially since they are so bent on avoiding luxury tax.

    I'd seriously doubt Durant doesn't test free agency unless Westbrook decides to re up with him.
  • timetodienow1234567 says 7 months ago Of course Houston would want Rondo, but Boston won't give him away for scraps. Ainge is smarter than most believe.
  • rocketrick says 7 months ago

    of course but this sounds exactly likewhat the sixers will do with sad omer


    2 completely different players. Rondo should easily return more in a trade than Asik. Why would the Celtics give in and move Rondo now when they should be able to obtain more value IF they decide to go in a different direction with their franchise and move Rondo themselves.

    Whether Philly or whoever receives Asik decides to trade him now or later should have no bearing on the Rockets final decision on which is the best package for trading away Asik (and possibly another minor piece).
  • rocketrick says 7 months ago

    Durant is signed till 2016


    Durant is signed through 2015-16 season which is only 2 years after this season. I assume they will likely re-sign him before the end of 2015-16 to prevent him from testing free agency. So salary cap is definitely an ongoing concern for OKC especially since they are so bent on avoiding luxury tax.
  • smeggysmeg says 7 months ago

    warming to the Rondo value, certainly fits the DM collect assets mantra.......assume you would have to throw in PBev with Sad Omer to make it happen

  • smeggysmeg says 7 months ago

    I could be wrong, and in the minority here, but it doesn't seem to make sense that the Celtics would trade Rondo to the Rockets only to watch the Rockets flipRondo by the February trade deadline. Wouldn't the Celtics get more value in return for trading Rondo to his eventual destination directly?

    of course but this sounds exactly likewhat the sixers will do with sad omer

  • Cooper says 7 months ago Durant is signed till 2016
  • rocketrick says 7 months ago

    I actually wrote a much more in depth version of this last night and my computer crashed just as I was finishing...was too frustrated to continue and wrote a shortened version this morning.

    Part of the premise, which I touched on in another thread, is that Boston can take Asik and re-package him with pretty much any of their players (Jeff Green) and that is quite an appealing package to a lot of teams. A lock down rim protector and an athletic scoring wing (who can operate as a stretch 4) both in their prime...yes, please. Ainge could pull the double cross on Morey and send them to OKC allowing Presti to clear their books of bad contracts/players.

    Meanwhile, Ainge has an easy PR sell in Boston. "Look to the future". Paint Rondo as a bad character guy to build around (not difficult to sell) and I don't think anyone believes Green is the savior. Boston gets picks and some salary relief plus they get to tank it all the way to the first pick next year.

    Here's the big question: Will Rajon Rondo, who seemed to only listen to and respect one Kevin Garnett, be ok playing for Brad Stevens (who is 3 months younger than me (37) and younger than some NBA players) on a rebuilding Celtics squad? If, like me, you think the answer is a big "NO" then you have to trade him while he still holds high value.


    Also a quite valid point regarding Rajon Rondo. The Celtics will need to make a decision one way or the other. I just don't see the Celtics moving Rondo for Asik and another piece just to watch the Rockets and Morey flip Rondo for more in February when the Celtics themselves should be able to obtain better value for Rondo in my opinion vs. trading him to the Rockets now. Assuming, of course, the Celtics determine that is the best course for them. Who knows, they may end up deciding to build around Rondo although currently that doesn't seem set in concrete.
  • rocketrick says 7 months ago

    I actually wrote a much more in depth version of this last night and my computer crashed just as I was finishing...was too frustrated to continue and wrote a shortened version this morning.

    Part of the premise, which I touched on in another thread, is that Boston can take Asik and re-package him with pretty much any of their players (Jeff Green) and that is quite an appealing package to a lot of teams. A lock down rim protector and an athletic scoring wing (who can operate as a stretch 4) both in their prime...yes, please. Ainge could pull the double cross on Morey and send them to OKC allowing Presti to clear their books of bad contracts/players.

    Meanwhile, Ainge has an easy PR sell in Boston. "Look to the future". Paint Rondo as a bad character guy to build around (not difficult to sell) and I don't think anyone believes Green is the savior. Boston gets picks and some salary relief plus they get to tank it all the way to the first pick next year.

    Here's the big question: Will Rajon Rondo, who seemed to only listen to and respect one Kevin Garnett, be ok playing for Brad Stevens (who is 3 months younger than me (37) and younger than some NBA players) on a rebuilding Celtics squad? If, like me, you think the answer is a big "NO" then you have to trade him while he still holds high value.


    Even after amnestying Perkins, I don't think OKC can make the salaries work by receiving both Asik and Jeff Green. Not to mention, it is quite rare when a player returns to a team that previously traded him. Trust issues come to mind for one. Which is likely why AB and his agent insisted on a No Trade clause before AB agreed to re-sign with the Rockets over the summer.

    KD is going to be due for a pay raise soon and that is going to be problematic for OKC who seems intent on staying out of luxury tax territory. Not so much re-signing KD, but who else OKC can afford to have on the roster after KD and Westbrook. I just don't see OKC allowing either to go in free agency or trade away anytime soon. OKC can continue building and re-building around that core for many seasons to come in my opinion.
  • bboley24 says 7 months ago

    See tom! I wasn't trying to bash you... it's what I see every time I see your avatar!

  • rocketrick says 7 months ago

    I actually wrote a much more in depth version of this last night and my computer crashed just as I was finishing...was too frustrated to continue and wrote a shortened version this morning.

    Part of the premise, which I touched on in another thread, is that Boston can take Asik and re-package him with pretty much any of their players (Jeff Green) and that is quite an appealing package to a lot of teams. A lock down rim protector and an athletic scoring wing (who can operate as a stretch 4) both in their prime...yes, please. Ainge could pull the double cross on Morey and send them to OKC allowing Presti to clear their books of bad contracts/players.

    Meanwhile, Ainge has an easy PR sell in Boston. "Look to the future". Paint Rondo as a bad character guy to build around (not difficult to sell) and I don't think anyone believes Green is the savior. Boston gets picks and some salary relief plus they get to tank it all the way to the first pick next year.

    Here's the big question: Will Rajon Rondo, who seemed to only listen to and respect one Kevin Garnett, be ok playing for Brad Stevens (who is 3 months younger than me (37) and younger than some NBA players) on a rebuilding Celtics squad? If, like me, you think the answer is a big "NO" then you have to trade him while he still holds high value.


    That's a good point and valid, in regards to Asik being flipped again in February. However, I would expect Morey to focus on getting the maximum possible for moving Asik and not really worry about the rest. After all, no matter where Asik gets traded, it's not like Morey can require the obtaining team to promise NOT to trade Asik, etc.
  • thejohnnygold says 7 months ago

    I actually wrote a much more in depth version of this last night and my computer crashed just as I was finishing...was too frustrated to continue and wrote a shortened version this morning.

    Part of the premise, which I touched on in another thread, is that Boston can take Asik and re-package him with pretty much any of their players (Jeff Green) and that is quite an appealing package to a lot of teams. A lock down rim protector and an athletic scoring wing (who can operate as a stretch 4) both in their prime...yes, please. Ainge could pull the double cross on Morey and send them to OKC allowing Presti to clear their books of bad contracts/players.

    Meanwhile, Ainge has an easy PR sell in Boston. "Look to the future". Paint Rondo as a bad character guy to build around (not difficult to sell) and I don't think anyone believes Green is the savior. Boston gets picks and some salary relief plus they get to tank it all the way to the first pick next year.

    Here's the big question: Will Rajon Rondo, who seemed to only listen to and respect one Kevin Garnett, be ok playing for Brad Stevens (who is 3 months younger than me (37) and younger than some NBA players) on a rebuilding Celtics squad? If, like me, you think the answer is a big "NO" then you have to trade him while he still holds high value.

  • rocketrick says 7 months ago

    I think it would take more than Asik and fillerto get Rondo. Even with a bum knee and a bad attitude Ainge will try to get picks plus a valuable guy in exchange for him. I am not sure a Houston trade provides both the player and the picks Ainge wants. Better to have Rondo come back in JAnuary and play lights out till the trade deadline and if you don't have any takers start sitting him out with "injuries."


    Exactly my sentiments other than I wouldn't expect Boston to sit Rondo out necessarily --- especially if there was a possibility of the Celtics deciding to keep Rondo for the long run (basically a change of heart in the organization).
  • Chichos says 7 months ago

    I think it would take more than Asik and fillerto get Rondo. Even with a bum knee and a bad attitude Ainge will try to get picks plus a valuable guy in exchange for him. I am not sure a Houston trade provides both the player and the picks Ainge wants. Better to have Rondo come back in JAnuary and play lights out till the trade deadline and if you don't have any takers start sitting him out with "injuries."

  • tombrokeoff says 7 months ago

    Search on Google, Drake - Thank Me Later Album. He's a fan of the Rockets too, I think, third to Miami and Toronto. Too many Houston references...

    just did - lol - funny

  • Losthief says 7 months ago

    probably...we'd have to throw in a pick for rondo. Most likely if the celts are trying to tank, something like rondo here, asik to 3rd team, picks to boston with filler and stuff thrown in for contracts.

  • rocketrick says 7 months ago

    I could be wrong, and in the minority here, but it doesn't seem to make sense that the Celtics would trade Rondo to the Rockets only to watch the Rockets flipRondo by the February trade deadline. Wouldn't the Celtics get more value in return for trading Rondo to his eventual destination directly?

  • CC. says 7 months ago

    Is Rondo and the Celts "the Wildcard" someone was tweeting about? If we get Rondo the whole NBA world would explode. I don't think he'd work out too well with the team but boy...would things be interesting AND entertaining.

  • CC. says 7 months ago

    oh wow LOL -- actually like 5 or 6 years ago I bought whatever copy of Tiger Woods that had just come out and in that version, you could upload a face shot and apply it to your character in the game. Anyway, ive been using it for my twitter avatar the majority of the time ive been on twitter and since I login with twitter on here, thats what yall get. lol

    I listen to rap / hip-hop, but dont care for drake, or most mainstream for that matter, so i have no clue what the album cover youre referring to looks like.

    Search on Google, Drake - Thank Me Later Album. He's a fan of the Rockets too, I think, third to Miami and Toronto. Too many Houston references...

  • Cooper says 7 months ago Rondo would be interesting (not sure how ainge would sell Boston on how trading their "star" for asik and pieces would go over), the idea of just getting value instead if picking out a couple guys that "fit" but aren't necisarily that good does carry some weight since it's so early you could see if they would maybe work out or deal them at the real trade deadline.
  • timetodienow1234567 says 7 months ago

    I actually think the Rondo deal would be excellent. Not because I want him on the team, but because he IS max value for Asik. He is the kind of asset that, when packaged with another guy like Casspi (Carl Landry 2013!) and maybe a pick could get us a nice haul--even a top flight PG.

    Would Miami give us Bosh for Rondo and T-Jones?

    Would Chicago give us two of Butler, Deng, and Gibson?

    Would Indiana give us George Hill and Danny Granger?

    Would Brooklyn give us Deron Williams straight up?

    Maybe...maybe not. With Rondo opposing GM's at least have to think about it. His ability to D up, break down defenses, and hit guys for open looks is very appealing and one has to presume his shot, which he had been slowly improving on, got a lot of work while he was out since that's all he could work on.

    It's not my first choice, but it is something I could see Morey doing because it is a trade up from Asik and gives Morey a big trade chip moving forward. The bonus is we don't have to worry about working him into the rotations. Keep him on IR, let him do some "rehab" in the D-League to prove he is healthy and then ship him on out. If the Celts offer it you almost have to take it.

    Plus, what if he could work with Harden? I know it is popular opinion that this would be terrible, but I'm not convinced. How different is Rondo from Beverley really? If anything, he is Beverley, but better. Better D. Better passing. Better penetration. Shooting? Not sure about this one. We've got enough scorers around him that, much like Boston, he can spend his time racking up assists and scoring at the rim when the defense allows it.

    I think it's very, very interesting either way. (Dislcaimer: Rondo is one of my least favorite players in the league, but his game speaks for itself. He can flat out dominate when he wants to)


    Danny Ainge would be fired if he did that. Lol.
  • thejohnnygold says 7 months ago

    I actually think the Rondo deal would be excellent. Not because I want him on the team, but because he IS max value for Asik. He is the kind of asset that, when packaged with another guy like Casspi (Carl Landry 2013!) and maybe a pick could get us a nice haul--even a top flight PG.

    Would Miami give us Bosh for Rondo and T-Jones?

    Would Chicago give us two of Butler, Deng, and Gibson?

    Would Indiana give us George Hill and Danny Granger?

    Would Brooklyn give us Deron Williams straight up?

    Maybe...maybe not. With Rondo opposing GM's at least have to think about it. His ability to D up, break down defenses, and hit guys for open looks is very appealing and one has to presume his shot, which he had been slowly improving on, got a lot of work while he was out since that's all he could work on.

    It's not my first choice, but it is something I could see Morey doing because it is a trade up from Asik and gives Morey a big trade chip moving forward. The bonus is we don't have to worry about working him into the rotations. Keep him on IR, let him do some "rehab" in the D-League to prove he is healthy and then ship him on out. If the Celts offer it you almost have to take it.

    Plus, what if he could work with Harden? I know it is popular opinion that this would be terrible, but I'm not convinced. How different is Rondo from Beverley really? If anything, he is Beverley, but better. Better D. Better passing. Better penetration. Shooting? Not sure about this one. We've got enough scorers around him that, much like Boston, he can spend his time racking up assists and scoring at the rim when the defense allows it.

    I think it's very, very interesting either way. (Dislcaimer: Rondo is one of my least favorite players in the league, but his game speaks for itself. He can flat out dominate when he wants to)

  • bboley24 says 7 months ago

    I seriously hope fans cheer when he returns to the rockets court in another jersey.

    The guy got screwed. Yeah he's being childish right now but honestly, id be pretty pissed too. He lived up to his contract and got demoted. It's no ones fault. We got the best center in the league and he can't argue that. We can't argue with him not being happy about it.

    Please cheer for Omer fans!!!

  • John P says 7 months ago

    Totally agree on missing Asik....but I just liked the guy's work ethic. He showed up every game and did what he did to the best of his ability.
    It wasn't until this trade demand nonsense that you got any sort of attitude from him. I do think he is better at D than Howard...but not by much, and Howard's O is so much better, even if his post game is seriously flawed. I really wise we could have appeased him and gotten him to stay. Elite rim protection all game long would have been nice to have against the Heat and many others. Well hopefully we get enough first rounders back that we can trade them in for a borderline allstar come the trade deadline.

    Sad day to say good bye to Omer.

  • tombrokeoff says 7 months ago

    By the way, tom... you're avatar looks like a cheap drake album cover. Jusssss sayin'

    oh wow LOL -- actually like 5 or 6 years ago I bought whatever copy of Tiger Woods that had just come out and in that version, you could upload a face shot and apply it to your character in the game. Anyway, ive been using it for my twitter avatar the majority of the time ive been on twitter and since I login with twitter on here, thats what yall get. lol

    I listen to rap / hip-hop, but dont care for drake, or most mainstream for that matter, so i have no clue what the album cover youre referring to looks like.

  • Rahat Huq says 7 months ago

    i love how morey concocted this december trade deadline. idk if this 2 month rule for trading a newly acquired player is new to the most recent cba or what, but i can not recall any gm/player ever creating a false deadline before the calendar years' end. pretty cool.

    gotta agree here. morey steals the cake on 'coolness' factor.

  • smeggysmeg says 7 months ago

    tabak, drew and mirsad references......... is that a turkey???

    i dont even know what I want anymore, certainly to willing to stand pat, but sad Omer makes me sad.....

    is an expiring contract (that doesn't really help us beat sub .500 team this year), a first (with loads of protections and really not that much value) and a bucket of seconds acceptable, I feel like we are going to be underwhelmed when its all done...... with the hope a follow-up deal helps more.....

  • bboley24 says 7 months ago

    By the way, tom... you're avatar looks like a cheap drake album cover. Jusssss sayin'

  • bboley24 says 7 months ago

    Ugh. Do we have to wait til tomorrow??? If I put out cookies tonight, do you think Asik might be traded before tomorrow afternoon???

  • tombrokeoff says 7 months ago

    i love how morey concocted this december trade deadline. idk if this 2 month rule for trading a newly acquired player is new to the most recent cba or what, but i can not recall any gm/player ever creating a false deadline before the calendar years' end. pretty cool.

  • 2016Champions says 7 months ago So woj just tweeted that Hawks are in the mix, and to me this is good news because it sounds like there could be a bit of a bidding war going on which is what Morey wanted http://teamstre.am/1baLoQm
  • RollingWave says 7 months ago

    Logically it'd be Dmo or Brewer going out with him, though for a wild card I guess Beverley would be the one that is plausible yet surprising. or Greg Smith (but no one in the league even know who he is.)

  • feelingsupersonic says 7 months ago It seems like yesterday some if us were saying Asik would get 11 rebounds and 9 points a game after he got signed and that he would be totally worth it. Remember Rahat?

    So long Omer Asik.
  • bboley24 says 7 months ago

    Zan Tabak reference! YES!!!