Houston Rockets trade Trevor Ariza in four-team trade, land guard Courtney Lee

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The New Orleans Hornets acquired Trevor Ariza(notes) Wednesday in a four-team, five-player trade that also sends point guard Darren Collison(notes) to the Indiana Pacers, league sources told Yahoo! Sports.

The deal also sends Pacers forward Troy Murphy(notes) to the New Jersey Nets and Nets guard Courtney Lee(notes) to the Houston Rockets. In addition to landing Collison – the young point guard they’ve been searching for all offseason – the Pacers also have to take on forward James Posey(notes), who has two years and $13.5 million remaining on his contract.

The Rockets signed Ariza to a five-year, $35 million contract a year ago, but have since acquired guard Kevin Martin(notes). Trading him should keep them from paying a substantial luxury-tax bill this season.

Be sure to follow me on twitter as I will updating this post throughout the day and into tomorrow with my own thoughts and reactions to this deal from across the blogosphere…

My initial reaction:

  • Courtney Lee is a better player than Ariza and has been coveted for the Rockets since the draft.
  • I’m slightly worried about the public relations aspect of this – it does not look good to trade a marquee free agent (Ariza pretty much was a marquee pick up given his Lakers pedigree) one year removed from his signing.
  • Interesting that the Rockets would help the Hornets unload salary in Posey – might mean they don’t feel there’s much chance at Paul.
  • The salary difference between Ariza and Lee is a huge factor here.  I’m hoping its to allow for greater flexibility for a later deal rather than just a dump to ease tax obligations.

More as it comes.

Update: I’ll be providing coverage on this throughout the day and into tomorrow with my own thoughts and the reaction from others.

Update: I do not at all agree with Chad Ford’s opinion that “the move is basically a large salary dump.”  While the fact that it bestows flexibility to the team is true, that does not necessarily mean that that was the primary benefit or motivation of the deal.  My gut reaction right now, just on the surface based on what I remember from the Magic’s Finals run, is that this is the Kyle Lowry trade Part 2.  I think we will be very pleased with Lee in due time.

Follow me on twitter for updates to this post as more comes in.  I’ll be providing reactions from across the blogosphere and have a roundtable in the works.

For now, if you’re landing here via our Hornets TrueHoop affiliate, I would recommend my ‘Assessing Ariza’ series for a comprehensive evaluation of the player’s strengths and abilities:

Update:

Rahat, can you elaborate on “Kyle Lowry trade Part 2″?

By that, I meant that I see it as a deal where the team trades a higher profile player for a cheaper, lesser known player, and the consensus reaction is of complete bewilderment.  Like Lowry, I think Lee will prove to be a far better contributor than his predecessor, primarily because I know the Rockets had coveted him at the draft.

Update: Some more thoughts – pretty shocking that the Hornets gave up on a prize like Collison just for the relief in trading Posey’s contract.  Either he’s not the chip I assumed he was or Ariza’s reputation is even more inflated than I had thought – probably the latter.

Update: It’s a bit disappointing that we will never see Trevor in the role he was to play this year.  As I explained in Part 3 of the Ariza series, Ariza thrived upon the Martin trade and was likely to only get better with Yao back in the lineup.

But I still like this trade, especially after reading what is now being written of Lee’s defensive prowess and attentiveness to detail.  I could never quite stomach the mental aspect of Ariza’s game as he always struck me as extremely fragile psychologically.  There was the erratic, indisciplined gambling on defense, but moreso than that were his numerous temper tantrums on the court.  I rarely made mention of these during the year as with my heavy criticism of his actual play, I did not want to appear biased in bringing up something that was subject to interpretation.

There were countless times during the year when he’d throw up his hands in frustration upon not receiving a pass and this was troublesome; Trevor’s inflated sense of entitlement was rather odd.  The cheap shot against Derozan was utterly pathetic.  Frankly speaking, Trevor Ariza wasn’t a Houston Rocket. As I’ve said, I was bullish of what he could bring in playing the right role, but he was never a guy for whom you felt naturally inclined to cheer for; he wasn’t Carl Landry, Kyle Lowry, Chuck Hayes, or Shane Battier.

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Trevor does seem to be a journeyman. Spot on on your observations about Trevor about his psychological fragility. Another thing that bothered me was it seemed he had still not cut his emotional ties to the Lakers. He's still pining to go back. Also when KM came aboard, he did not give the coaches the freedom to decide who should go to the bench. It was Shane who had to give way.

I thought though towards the end of the season, he had done some growing up. He and AB seemed to communicate better; he had accepted his role, etc. We won't have a chance to see that now but I wish him a good career at NO.

Interesting - a lot of the stuff I've read has indicated that Lee is actually a pretty good 3-pt shooter - certainly Hollinger quotes some nice stats in Patrick Lee's post above though that was before this season. But I haven't really seen him play...and there's no real substitute for actually watching the game.

apod,

I'm in agreement with you on Ariza's attitude (Rahat mentioned it as well). He was repeatedly grimacing, especially around midseason. He looked to be preoccupied with himself rather than the team. I felt like Ariza had a maturity issue coupled with the awkward (failed?) results of having been used as a go-to-guy prior to the trade deadline.

That said, I don't buy any of this x or y has hit their ceiling already. Both Lee and Ariza are young. I enjoyed watching both of them in the playoffs two years ago. I thought NJ had gotten quite an asset in Lee and I haven't given up on the possibility that he can be a better-than-solid contributor. Two years of play (one with such a poor Nets team) aren't enough to tell me a guy has hit his ceiling. The same for Ariza. In my opinion, the jury is still out.

But I won't miss that selfish grimace.

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I'm uncertain whether this concern has been broached yet, but how different is Courtney Lee from what the Rox already have in Jermaine Taylor? As a resident of NJ, I've seen enough from the former to state that he had a tremendous opportunity to take a step forward last year, but failed to do so. Yes, there are plenty of reasons, including a putrid supporting cast; however, in terms of his abilities, they do not seem to be all that superior to Taylor. They are both nearly the same size and possess almost the same game - poor 3-point shooters, but capable mid-range and drivers. To me, because of their similarities, it seems that one's growth this upcoming year will be simultaneously met with the stunted development in the other. I'd be very interested to hear your thoughts and how each fits into the Rox plans for 2011.

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Hollinger's preview of Courtney Lee:

2008-09 season: Lee was an underrated key to Orlando's conference championship, taking over as the starting shooting guard as a late first-round draft pick and becoming the Magic's top defensive stopper. Unfortunately for him, the enduring memory many folks have of his season is the missed layup that would have won Game 2 of the NBA Finals in L.A.

Lee was pretty quiet offensively, ranking 57th out of 65 shooting guards in usage rate, and that was the main reason his PER was so low. For a low-usage guy he also was surprisingly turnover-prone, tending to get in trouble when he dribbled into the paint. However, Lee was effective in the catch-and-shoot game, hitting 40.4 percent of his 3s. Lee made 59.8 percent of his shots in the immediate basket area, too, so he certainly can finish -- he just didn't get there very often.

Scouting report: Often compared to Richard Hamilton because of their similar builds, especially once he donned a facemask in last season's playoffs, Lee is likely to have a much more defense-oriented identity as a pro. He's a very good spot-up shooter, with last season's numbers backed by strong 3-point percentages as a collegian, but it's unlikely he'll ever be great at creating his own offense since he's neither a deceptive ball handler nor an explosive leaper.

Where he does excel, however, is at the other end. Most rookies struggle on defense, but Lee was the Magic's best on-ball defender from the get-go and has a good chance at becoming an elite defensive stopper. Even though he isn't powerfully built, he moves very well laterally. He needs to get better at drawing charges, though, as last season he took only five, and he needs to get stronger to defend post-ups better.

2009-10 outlook: Lee was traded to New Jersey in the Vince Carter deal and should see extended playing time as the Nets' starting shooting guard. While his team as a whole will be a far cry from the Magic squad he played on a season ago, the change of scenery will give him more opportunity to round out his offensive game. I suspect his shots and points will increase sharply but his percentages will go down.

Of course, Lee's long-term value is more likely to come as a defender. He'll be facing opponents' best scorers every night in New Jersey without a lot of help, and while he'll probably take some lumps this season, the experience should pay off in the long run as he tries to establish himself as a lockdown, one-on-one ace.

We do have budinger who is a beast

The phantom of Donte Green just keeps rolling and rolling...

Tax is certainly an issue. As much as I would like to think this not about money (not mine), and as such the management would not admit outright, this was an opportunity to get below tax. Ariza is certainly more athletic than Lee. The spin is that he goes for more steals and gets burned despite the athleticism. Ariza may have more potential but whether he would develop in Adelman's offensive scheme remains to be seen. For guys who have rings and wants to be the top dog like Ariza, this may not be a good fit for him next year. Offensively he would have little upside next year and if Yao remains healthy Ariza's trade value would certainly go down next year (he's not top anything, certainly not even scoring in his inefficient way).
It's always a game of numbers, money, points, steals... then there's the subjective valuation of gambling for steals, playing adequate D, athleticism.

If Lee can step in front of Deron Williams and cut off his drives then this would be a good pick up.

Impact: Rockets exist the transaction a more balanced (traditional) team.
Winners: Bud owns all backup 3 minutes, Kmart has an actual back-up, Les Alexander potentially saves money, DMo facilitates future trades, Fans (I like watching basketball players not just tall people playing basketball), Trevor - all creating is done by Chris Paul, Kyle actually gets to play with a real shooting guard!

Losers: Jermaine Taylor - 3rd SG (please no discussion of James at the point or the three - not realistic), Brooks/Lowry combo (why get a back-up 2)

Interesting comments from DMo - Per Rockets.com Q: Was this more a deal to move Ariza’s contract or to get Courtney? DM: This was an opportunity to get Courtney. I mentioned the Kyle Lowry deal and I hesitate a little bit because Kyle is a very good player and I don’t necessarily want to put expectations on Courtney to be similar to Kyle – they’re very different players. But in terms of our aggressiveness and trying to acquire players who we think ->>>>fit our winning culture and style of play, fit our overall focus on what we value on the floor, when those players become available we aggressively go for it.

Did DMo just say Ariza didn't fit into the Rockets winning culture, style of play and lacked the overall focus on what is valued on the floor? If it wasn't about the money...

I don't deny that Morey is high on Lee - the problem with your Collison/Posey for Ariza deal is the salary match -the Rockets did not want a salary match - they wanted to get under the tax. I don't blame Les - there's a lot of uncertainty with the CBA and that tax would be hard to swallow if Yao is not healthy and this is a fringe playoff team. My main issue is buying at face value that this trade was made for primarily basketball reasons. Morey made the best of a salary shedding request and got a player he likes, but who is not in any way clearly an upgrade over Ariza (whom Morey loved when we signed him a year ago). So Morey is saving face to some extent, as he should - this was a move sideways (at best) while saving some money.

I like this trade. I think it will give us more flexibility in-season to upgrade. Even with Ariza, I thought that SF was our weakest position. Now it is clearly the only position that we aren't two-deep at. I'm confident that we will be able to acquire a better SF than Ariza without weakening our core. Closer to the deadline, Morey will be able to decide whether to increase luxury taxes and strengthen our team for the playoffs or look to dump a veteran and get some of our young talent on the court to prepare for the following year.

First,I really like Lee.(Wish the Rockets had traded w/Denver in 2008 and drafted Lee then used their pick on Batum,instead of saving pick for Artest trade.Anyhow...)

But what makes zero sense at first glance is the Rockets talking about how Lee can defend the bigger PGs. Well that's nice,but isn't that what Lowry is for? And if the team is talking about Lee guarding PGs while Brooks is on the floor,who is Brooks guarding? If Brooks can't guard bigger PGs,how is he going to guard SGs while Lee has the PG?
The rationale makes no sense,so why stress it unless...Brooks is going to be traded. Huge honking speculative leap,but if Brooks were to be traded and Lowry starting,then the Rockets might be toying w/a Lee/Taylor/Bud/PF de jour/Miller reserve unit w/Lee and Taylor bringing up the ball,running the hi-post offense thru Miller and using Taylor as the last second drive option(or possible playmaker-remember the line about JT perhaps being the emergency 3rd PG a month or so ago?). For the back-up PG the team signs some journeyman PG.

Clearly, Morey disagrees. Mind you, if rox really coveted Collison, they could directly trade with NO and land Collison + Posey for Ariza. Their salary match IIRC.

The fact that rox did not go that route and went after Lee should speak volumn about how much they like him.

The idea that this isn't a salary dump is strictly a hometown bias view. I'm not a huge Ariza fan, mind you, and did not love the signing last offseason - at least not at the price tag. So getting out from under that contract is not bad in my eyes. However, just because Morey "coveted" Lee in the draft a few years ago doesn't make him anymore than he is - a nice bench player on a good team - as a starter he's a liability on offense as an average 3 point shooter, no ball-handling ability, and no passing ability. His supposed defensive prowess was propped up by having Dwight Howard behind him in Orlando, and he's outmatched against bigger 2 guards. At best this was a wash in talent, but in reality Ariza had more upside. So at the end of the day, salary WAS the main motivating factor here. Collison was the best player moved here, and the Rockets would have been better served with him even in an overloaded backcourt than Lee. Overall, disappointing to me.

Not that we need to make a deal for a SF, but Rumor Central threw out the possibility of us making a play for Tayshaun Prince.

TP has worse stats, is 5 years older with only 2 more years of experience, and would cost ~$4.5 million more than Ariza at a $10,324,380 salary.

I'm going to assume this was a pretty harmless joke, but would you think there's any weight to that rumor?

can houston trade some one like lee, martin, shane for a good starting SF.
because we can rely on shane or budinger to large minutes.

Re Trevor and NO.
Move prob made to keep Chris Paul happy. They've got a young SG they like and Trevor gives them the D Posey didn't on a consistent basis,a 3pt shooter for Paul feeds and a player willing to run-which really complements Paul. They'd prob be happy w/a straight Ariza for Collins deal,unloading Posey's 2 yrs is a win for them.
BTW,Rockets prob used the Landry or other TPE to get Lee,which would make the new TPE equal to all of Trevor's salary.

Bad thing about this trade: I used to snicker at all the 4-team trades proposed on various forums because they never happen in real life. Well one just happened :(

we also got a 6 million TPE which is gonna be huge!

sorry everyone. I screwed up my response to RL re: Ariza's attitude. Anyway, here it is...

Its my opinion based on observation. I definitely don't have any insider information on that. I did get to sit close a handful of times last year and watched most games on tv. I saw Ariza getting frustrated and acting indignant at his teammates quite a bit. I also witnessed a nasty episode where he gave a bunch of fans the bird when they called out to him in jest. I know for a fact that the Rockets had to address this particular issue with him.

My perception of Ariza is that he has a lot of growing up to do and was never particularly happy here. I never once saw him with a smile on his face in a Rockets uniform.

I was surprised Orlando ever let Lee go. Still, I'm disappointed that Ariza is gone so soon - the consensus seemed to be that he played much better within the system after Martin arrived, tho he would probably never develop good hands.

I'm not familiar enough with Lee as a player to comment on the projected gains from this acquisition, but I am concerned about the defensive implications.

Morey stated before that Ariza was worth his contract for his defense alone; the spot-up shooting and slashing was a great bonus. Even if Lee is a quality defender, he would just be shoring up the 2 defensively, where we already know Martin is not particularly effective. Sure, we still have Battier, but we had him before. There's no net change there. If we move Budinger to the 3, have we really gained anything? Is a secondary benefit just evening out the roster positions?

I just feel (reflexively) like our defense has diminished.

don't forget the $6mil TE that they picked up... which proved to be so valuable to financially struggling teams at the deadline.

Why is everyone so happy about this trade? Granted that Ariza wasn't the most efficient player last year, however, he played well with K-Mart after the trade and he will get even more open looks with Yao being back.

I'm from the NYC area and I've watched many Nets games courtesy of the YES network and I think Courtney Lee is not the player that Ariza is. First off, I don't think he has great size, to me he looks no more than 6'4. He is decent defensively due to his quickness but he will struggle against the bigger 2 guards out there (Kobe and Joe Johnson comes to mind). He is athletic but due to his lack of handles and small stature, he's not a very good slasher/finisher.

Our 3 position is weakened with the departure since we have 2 one dimensional players at that position. If either Shane or Bud goes down, we do not have anyone capable of playing the position. Please, don't try to tell me that Patrick Patterson can play the 3, he can't.

Also, I completely disagree that this is 'Kyle Lowry part2'. Rafer Alston had the starting spot for himself for years. He played with both prime Yao and T-Mac and he still struggled consistently. Kyle Lowry was not as lowly regarded as some of you might think. He was a bench player but he was a damn good one at that. He was also good enough to play only for one team. Kyle was a rising talent when Daryl traded Alston for him. last year, Kyle could've started on alot of teams. On the other hand, Ariza was only given a one year try out, playing a strange role as a shot creator for most of the year. He had no star to share the ball with. After the K-Mart trade, his production increased noticeably. Courtney Lee, unlike Lowry, started for both the Magic and the Nets. He has been traded because he didn't live up to his billing. The Nets traded him because they want T-Williams to start. Courtney Lee has already reached his ceiling, and he is no more than a role player.

Lee is a SG who can make the 3,but last yr had a bad attitude being traded from Orlando-which he loved-to NJ. Likes to play D,did a decent job defending Kobe in Finals. Adequate passer,was emergency PG and played some there for Orlando.
Considering how high Morey claims Adelman regards Taylor,I wonder if there's another trade in talks involving Martin?
Yeah I would imagine Shane moves back into starting lineup. Bud as back-up and more defensive Lee(or Taylor) his partner. And Jeffries can play the SF if needed.
Like the move,and gives leeway to use TPE,trade for more expensive player,etc.
Wonder how much the roster will change before season even starts?

Almost exactly my thoughts on the trade, Rahat.

What do you think this means for the potential availability of Danny Granger and/or Chris Paul? These have been two heavily discussed trade options, and now it seems that this deal could keep both on their respective teams for a while. The Pacers got their PG (Brooks would no longer be as attractive), and the Hornets cleared space and traded away their Paul replacement.

This is fascinating. Courtney Lee is a reliable, well-rounded player. But what will this mean in practice; are we to assume that Battier will start on the wing? Lyfestyle's concerns are not unreasonable.

Love the "Kyle Lowry Part Two." Completely agree.

I did see the bad decision making, but I didn't realize Ariza had bad attitude. Any background on why you say that? Thx

Rahat, can you elaborate on "Kyle Lowry trade Part 2"?

I love it. Ariza's bad attitude and decision making is gone at a large savings. I just want to know why in the hell New Orleans would give up Darren Collison for basically nothing.

Lee's offensive progress was hindered last year by being on the Nets. Look back to the year before at his Magic days and you will see how he can function in a system that works.

So does that put Battier back in the starting 5? Aren't both Martin and Lee a bit undersized to defend the 3?

This is not just a salary dump. Lee is just as talented as Ariza. Just as good defensively and, IMO, a better shooter. They got just as good a player at a much lower cost. Most definitely not just a salary dump.

hey Rahat, I would REALLY be interested to hear more about your analysis on Lee. A brief look at the box scores seems to indicate that Lee to be somewhat an anti-Martin kind of player? He seems to have mediocre offensive efficiency numbers accross the board last year.

what's his biggest strength? and why is houston coveting him?

I'm not very familiar with Lee's work, but a number of sites are calling this a strictly cost-cutting move for Houston. If so, I'm a little confused about the Rockets' strategy as they recently spent on veterans (a sign of 'win now') and then cut salary (a sign of 'rebuild now').

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