Comments on: Statistical +/- for Houston Rockets http://www.red94.net/houston-rockets-statistical/872/ Red94 | essays and musings on the nba and houston rockets Sat, 04 Feb 2012 05:13:28 +0000 hourly 1 By: Toronto Sun: the Houston Rockets make sense for Chris Bosh | Red94 | essays and musings on the nba & houston rocketshttp://www.red94.net/houston-rockets-statistical/872/comment-page-1/#comment-1998 Toronto Sun: the Houston Rockets make sense for Chris Bosh | Red94 | essays and musings on the nba & houston rockets Tue, 04 May 2010 14:31:37 +0000 http://www.red94.net/?p=872#comment-1998 [...] Lowry is not a “decent young player” but rather, perhaps the best player on the Houston Rockets.  Rest assured, he will not be included as some sort of inconsequential afterthought as is [...] [...] Lowry is not a “decent young player” but rather, perhaps the best player on the Houston Rockets.  Rest assured, he will not be included as some sort of inconsequential afterthought as is [...]

]]> By: durvasahttp://www.red94.net/houston-rockets-statistical/872/comment-page-1/#comment-1707 durvasa Tue, 02 Feb 2010 06:46:39 +0000 http://www.red94.net/?p=872#comment-1707 I think that's likely true. It formula was arrived at to estimate overall impact in terms of adjusted +/- (which is equal parts offense and defense). But I think its likely biased towards the offensive component simply because that's easier to predict using the boxscore. I don't think its as offensively-biased as some other boxscore stats like PER, but that is more of an intuitive guess on my part. I think that's likely true. It formula was arrived at to estimate overall impact in terms of adjusted +/- (which is equal parts offense and defense). But I think its likely biased towards the offensive component simply because that's easier to predict using the boxscore. I don't think its as offensively-biased as some other boxscore stats like PER, but that is more of an intuitive guess on my part.

]]> By: Easyhttp://www.red94.net/houston-rockets-statistical/872/comment-page-1/#comment-1706 Easy Tue, 02 Feb 2010 06:11:44 +0000 http://www.red94.net/?p=872#comment-1706 duvasa, I don't have time to decipher the formula. But since this method is using traditional boxscore numbers, I would venture to guess that it would not be as accurate on the defensive impact as it is on the offensive end, since the boxscore numbers are notorious in lacking in measuring defensive performance.<br><br>Am I understanding it right? duvasa, I don't have time to decipher the formula. But since this method is using traditional boxscore numbers, I would venture to guess that it would not be as accurate on the defensive impact as it is on the offensive end, since the boxscore numbers are notorious in lacking in measuring defensive performance.

Am I understanding it right?

]]> By: durvasahttp://www.red94.net/houston-rockets-statistical/872/comment-page-1/#comment-1709 durvasa Tue, 02 Feb 2010 04:59:55 +0000 http://www.red94.net/?p=872#comment-1709 That would be Sasha Pavlovic of MIN, who with a SPM of -7.01 fell in the (-7.5, -7.0) bracket in the histogram. That would be Sasha Pavlovic of MIN, who with a SPM of -7.01 fell in the (-7.5, -7.0) bracket in the histogram.

]]> By: physicsgeekandrocketsfanhttp://www.red94.net/houston-rockets-statistical/872/comment-page-1/#comment-1708 physicsgeekandrocketsfan Tue, 02 Feb 2010 03:38:17 +0000 http://www.red94.net/?p=872#comment-1708 Alituro, I agree, Lowry is something else. You gotta give credit to Morey for seeing that when he was on the Grizzlies, I mean he wasn't even getting that much playing time back then. Tsunami, you're also right about Lebron, this shows that adv. stats can still capture unbelievable star power like Lebron. Which brings me to my question, who is the poor bastard with -7.5? Alituro, I agree, Lowry is something else. You gotta give credit to Morey for seeing that when he was on the Grizzlies, I mean he wasn't even getting that much playing time back then. Tsunami, you're also right about Lebron, this shows that adv. stats can still capture unbelievable star power like Lebron. Which brings me to my question, who is the poor bastard with -7.5?

]]> By: durvasahttp://www.red94.net/houston-rockets-statistical/872/comment-page-1/#comment-706 durvasa Tue, 02 Feb 2010 01:46:39 +0000 http://www.red94.net/?p=872#comment-706 I think that's likely true. It formula was arrived at to estimate overall impact in terms of adjusted +/- (which is equal parts offense and defense). But I think its likely biased towards the offensive component simply because that's easier to predict using the boxscore. I don't think its as offensively-biased as some other boxscore stats like PER, but that is more of an intuitive guess on my part. I think that's likely true. It formula was arrived at to estimate overall impact in terms of adjusted +/- (which is equal parts offense and defense). But I think its likely biased towards the offensive component simply because that's easier to predict using the boxscore. I don't think its as offensively-biased as some other boxscore stats like PER, but that is more of an intuitive guess on my part.

]]> By: Easyhttp://www.red94.net/houston-rockets-statistical/872/comment-page-1/#comment-705 Easy Tue, 02 Feb 2010 01:11:44 +0000 http://www.red94.net/?p=872#comment-705 duvasa, I don't have time to decipher the formula. But since this method is using traditional boxscore numbers, I would venture to guess that it would not be as accurate on the defensive impact as it is on the offensive end, since the boxscore numbers are notorious in lacking in measuring defensive performance.<br><br>Am I understanding it right? duvasa, I don't have time to decipher the formula. But since this method is using traditional boxscore numbers, I would venture to guess that it would not be as accurate on the defensive impact as it is on the offensive end, since the boxscore numbers are notorious in lacking in measuring defensive performance.

Am I understanding it right?

]]> By: durvasahttp://www.red94.net/houston-rockets-statistical/872/comment-page-1/#comment-703 durvasa Mon, 01 Feb 2010 23:59:55 +0000 http://www.red94.net/?p=872#comment-703 That would be Sasha Pavlovic of MIN, who with a SPM of -7.01 fell in the (-7.5, -7.0) bracket in the histogram. That would be Sasha Pavlovic of MIN, who with a SPM of -7.01 fell in the (-7.5, -7.0) bracket in the histogram.

]]> By: physicsgeekandrocketsfanhttp://www.red94.net/houston-rockets-statistical/872/comment-page-1/#comment-702 physicsgeekandrocketsfan Mon, 01 Feb 2010 22:38:17 +0000 http://www.red94.net/?p=872#comment-702 Alituro, I agree, Lowry is something else. You gotta give credit to Morey for seeing that when he was on the Grizzlies, I mean he wasn't even getting that much playing time back then. Tsunami, you're also right about Lebron, this shows that adv. stats can still capture unbelievable star power like Lebron. Which brings me to my question, who is the poor bastard with -7.5? Alituro, I agree, Lowry is something else. You gotta give credit to Morey for seeing that when he was on the Grizzlies, I mean he wasn't even getting that much playing time back then. Tsunami, you're also right about Lebron, this shows that adv. stats can still capture unbelievable star power like Lebron. Which brings me to my question, who is the poor bastard with -7.5?

]]> By: Links To The Present: Monday, February 1st « Cavs: The Bloghttp://www.red94.net/houston-rockets-statistical/872/comment-page-1/#comment-701 Links To The Present: Monday, February 1st « Cavs: The Blog Mon, 01 Feb 2010 22:30:28 +0000 http://www.red94.net/?p=872#comment-701 [...] has come up with a new +/- model based on box-score statistics. It says that LeBron James is the best player in the league. By a [...] [...] has come up with a new +/- model based on box-score statistics. It says that LeBron James is the best player in the league. By a [...]

]]> By: Tsunamihttp://www.red94.net/houston-rockets-statistical/872/comment-page-1/#comment-699 Tsunami Mon, 01 Feb 2010 20:14:45 +0000 http://www.red94.net/?p=872#comment-699 the distribution with LeBron by himself way out in space is awesome. the distribution with LeBron by himself way out in space is awesome.

]]> By: Wolf Track: From Red94 – Statistical +/- | Howlin' T-Wolfhttp://www.red94.net/houston-rockets-statistical/872/comment-page-1/#comment-698 Wolf Track: From Red94 – Statistical +/- | Howlin' T-Wolf Mon, 01 Feb 2010 19:54:13 +0000 http://www.red94.net/?p=872#comment-698 [...] Wolf Track: From Red94 – Statistical +/- February 1, 2010 — Howlintwolf Excellent work by Durvasa over at Red94 to breakdown statistical +/- numbers: Statistical +/- for Rockets | Red94 [...] [...] Wolf Track: From Red94 – Statistical +/- February 1, 2010 — Howlintwolf Excellent work by Durvasa over at Red94 to breakdown statistical +/- numbers: Statistical +/- for Rockets | Red94 [...]

]]> By: Aliturohttp://www.red94.net/houston-rockets-statistical/872/comment-page-1/#comment-696 Alituro Mon, 01 Feb 2010 16:34:35 +0000 http://www.red94.net/?p=872#comment-696 Not only a great player statistically, as proven above, but much like Battier, there is so much Kyle does that can't be quantified. Last week he was on a 2-on-1 fast break, I think with Chase trailing and a bigger defender in front on the inside. He used his body to screen the defender all the way to the basket, keeping his body between the trailer and defender, facilitating an uncontested layup. It was chalked up as an assist for Kyle, but one that needed a serious asterisk and footnote. I can't count the amount of times I've seen him set screens on the break at the perimeter, again, assists with asterisks. Seen him drive through the lane and spot a defender with his back to the ball and ram it straight at him, knowing that there will never be a charge called if the guy's back is to the ball, and-1 opp on the way. Cross-court passing accuracy? Again, assists with asterisks. One of the top rebounding points in the game, even with bench minutes. It's like he has a basketball encylopedia in his head that he's able to refer to in a split second as a situation arises. If the Rockets are able to pick up another consistent scorer besides Brooks, I'd like to see Kyle start and have Brooks off the bench for some instant scoring when needed. If Conroy can be 3/4 as effective as Kyle, then I'm all for selling high on Brooks to bring in that Scorer. Not only a great player statistically, as proven above, but much like Battier, there is so much Kyle does that can't be quantified. Last week he was on a 2-on-1 fast break, I think with Chase trailing and a bigger defender in front on the inside. He used his body to screen the defender all the way to the basket, keeping his body between the trailer and defender, facilitating an uncontested layup. It was chalked up as an assist for Kyle, but one that needed a serious asterisk and footnote. I can't count the amount of times I've seen him set screens on the break at the perimeter, again, assists with asterisks. Seen him drive through the lane and spot a defender with his back to the ball and ram it straight at him, knowing that there will never be a charge called if the guy's back is to the ball, and-1 opp on the way. Cross-court passing accuracy? Again, assists with asterisks. One of the top rebounding points in the game, even with bench minutes. It's like he has a basketball encylopedia in his head that he's able to refer to in a split second as a situation arises. If the Rockets are able to pick up another consistent scorer besides Brooks, I'd like to see Kyle start and have Brooks off the bench for some instant scoring when needed. If Conroy can be 3/4 as effective as Kyle, then I'm all for selling high on Brooks to bring in that Scorer.

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