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@  Buckko : (24 October 2014 - 03:57 AM) That's an understatement Cooper.
@  rockets best... : (24 October 2014 - 01:16 AM) Nash should have quit 4 years ago
@  Cooper : (24 October 2014 - 01:15 AM) suns really sold high on him.
@  Willk : (24 October 2014 - 12:03 AM) sad to see nash's career end like this
@  cointurtlemoose : (23 October 2014 - 07:16 PM) Philly "doing it right" is a catch-22 when doing it right is completely sacrificing competitiveness for almost entire seasons. I see what you're saying, and it's not Philly's fault.
@  2016Champions : (23 October 2014 - 05:59 PM) I need more to go on to write something up. Just brainstorming right now. Monroe is more of a defensive plus at the 4 than the 5; I think the reason he played the 5 early on his because he couldn't shoot--no longer the case.
@  08huangj : (23 October 2014 - 12:28 PM) He just doesn't seem like a four to me, he started his career as a center. I also don't think that he'd be happy to be a backup and what does a very reasonable price mean. Maybe you can create a thread.
@  2016Champions : (23 October 2014 - 10:14 AM) Monroe would not only improve our starting 4 spot but also serve as a backup center.
@  2016Champions : (23 October 2014 - 10:12 AM) Should we go after Greg Monroe? He seems to have improved his midrange shot, and considering the likelihood he walks, we might be able to acquire him for a very reasonable price.
@  Buckko : (23 October 2014 - 04:31 AM) I have no problem with philly tanking. If you're gonna do something, do it right. They should be an extremely entertaining team in a few years.
@  Willk : (23 October 2014 - 01:23 AM) 2016 - I agree. I would rather see Canaan play than Ish
@  2016Champions : (23 October 2014 - 01:19 AM) Isaiah Canaan seems to get better with every game.
@  cointurtlemoose : (23 October 2014 - 12:09 AM) That said, Philly is ridiculous. It's entertaining on a level, but it's also out of hand. I was for the reform with the proposed percentages they voted on today. Surprised it didn't pass.
@  cointurtlemoose : (23 October 2014 - 12:08 AM) I think it's interesting Mr. Rick. It's kind of a give and take to me. I'm totally okay with teams intentionally going through a 'rebuilding' phase, and I don't think you want to erase that too much with something like the wheel idea.
@  rocketrick : (22 October 2014 - 10:32 PM) No Lipstick on this Pig........NBA GM's say without a doubt James Harden is the #1 SG and Dwight Howard is the #1 C. Probably more hate coming my way for mentioning. I would just like an occasional informative article on this site from time to time but I guess I just expect too much........
@  rocketrick : (22 October 2014 - 09:41 PM) Why the hate when I post something of consequence?
@  rocketrick : (22 October 2014 - 09:41 PM) Wow, so it sounds like everyone is good with the lottery system as is and teams like Philadelphia can continue to strive for more ping=pong balls season after season rather than be expected to field a competitive team. I am shocked that nobody cares whatsoever about the consequences of what this means going forward (same as always)........
@  thejohnnygold : (22 October 2014 - 09:19 PM) Yeah, I don't find much interest in the lottery system change fail. That being said, perhaps you can just start a topic thread like normal people, see what happens, and not condescend the other members in the process. :)
@  feelingsuper... : (22 October 2014 - 07:43 PM) I'm not terribly interested in the 17 to 13 vote that occurred regarding the Lottery. There's my vote.
@  Losthief : (22 October 2014 - 07:36 PM) @rocketrick sure man, lottery stuff is interesting in a nba sense, i didn't post it here cause its not likely to have much impact on rockets per se, cause i expect us to trade that pellies pick and im not expecting us to be in the lottery (plus didn't we give ours to LAL?)

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A closer look at Thomas Robinson and a look ahead


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#1 Red94

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Posted 21 February 2013 - 09:42 PM

New post: A closer look at Thomas Robinson and a look ahead
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#2 Chichos

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Posted 21 February 2013 - 10:26 PM

I think Robinson has the beginnings of a post game. Those left handed spins off the glass are not easy with a defender on your hip. But it should be noted that is supposed to be his counter to a running hook in the lane... Not sure why his counter is so much better then the easier jump hook.

He also runs the floor really really well. That will get him some spot minutes pretty early on, McHale loves hustle and both highlights showed tons of hustle.

The big downside for the Rockets is that all those highlights were around the rim and that is not where we want our PFs most of the time. I think sharing time with Donatas/Parsons at the 4 while he plays the 5 is an intriguing idea in stretches. But he needs that outside shot to reach his potential.
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Posted 21 February 2013 - 10:56 PM

I watched him in college, and he looks like he's lost some weight. I think he was around 245-250 in college. That video shows him like he's a bit lighter. He has some hops. Until he puts on a lot more muscle, I could see him getting a few minutes at SF if he develops an outside jumper. We could go big with him at the 3. Just thinking about pick and rolls with him and Harden or him and Lin, makes me think that he'll average 15 points / 10 rebounds a game if he gets 30 minutes a night.
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Posted 22 February 2013 - 07:31 AM

Here's why Daryl traded for this player: he's a finisher. Houston moves the ball very well and they don't really need him to post up. Houston is the highest scoring team in the league and they do a very small percentage of their scoring posting up. They need a pick-n-roll finisher who plays with power around the basket. They need a guy that the guards can ally-oop to. I don't think I've seen a single classic-style ally-up from the Rockets this year, and the guards can deliver the passes if they have a guy who can get up there and finish. Defensively, the tape shows that the guy is willing to play D, and has the physical attributes for a good defender. He can get better. He doesn't have the size to dominate defensively, but you couple him with Omer who is a big body in the paint, and you've got something. I hope they keep him instead of trading. I think they will.
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Posted 22 February 2013 - 01:59 PM

As a fan, I don't think it's prudent to ditch all of our long term vision for this season's playoff rally. It'd be nice to make it, re-energizing the fanbase, but to rent a player for the second half of the season with only that goal in mind doesn't make since to me. Especially since we're almost a lock anyway. As the article stated we all know T-rob has the abilities required, let's give him a chance to integrate and see what he can do. Morey is pretty much amazing with what he pulls out of his hat. We now have two top-5 talents from last years draft (granted one is a basket case), and a pocketful of trade chips should the opportunity arise.
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Posted 22 February 2013 - 02:34 PM

The problem w/hi-light packages is they just show the good.
Robinson gets 1 out of every 10 shots blocked at the rim. Not good.
The negatives said about him are poor hands and a sense of entitlement.
He does have a decent 15-18' jumper and Pat would routinely get several baskets a game popping to baseline or near FT line for an open J.
I don't see him as a future starter,but as a Carl Landry third big type.
He does go hard after rebounds,not content to just get the ones that come to him,so hopefully when Asik sits he can carry the rebounding burden.
But man,is he a rookie. Does all the stupid rookie things,forcing passes,stupidly fouling guys trying to get rebounds waaay too far away,jacking up bad shots,goes out of control on drives,gets lost on defensive rotations. Pretty much the standard rookie mistakes,but since he does play hard,they seem to stand out more. Most will correct w/experience,but he has a ways to go.

On an amusing note-to me anyway-before he was drafted there was some columnist who said Robinson might not want to mention in GM interviews that he backed up Marcus Morris at Kansas. Ouch,double ouch!
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Posted 22 February 2013 - 03:26 PM

I think my favorite part is the hustle--specifically, in the video when they showed him being the furthest away but being the first guy down to the other end over and over. Given the Rockets' impetus to get down the floor and score that alone makes him an asset. He naturally wants to get down there and has the ability to finish off a pass. That plus the rebounding and defense are good enough for me.

Someone made a great point in an article I read...I forget now, but they were talking about Dwight having always played in a slow-tempo offense with Van Gundy. Now that he is in LA with D'Antoni and his up-tempo style it's creating problems. It gave me pause when considering a potential max deal for him....it actually makes me lean back towards Josh Smith as I think he would fill this role very well.

A starting 5 of Lin, Harden, Smith, Robinson, and Asik....with Beverley, Anderson? Parsons, Jones/Motie/G. Smith combo bench rotation could be stellar....imagine parsons and D-mo running pick and rolls with G. Smith cleaning the glass and Anderson spotting up for 3's....I can dig it. That is when we aren't scoring off fast breaks and out-running opponents.
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