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@  Buckko : (30 August 2014 - 08:17 PM) and finally an article on Canaan http://www.ridiculou...-guard#comments
@  feelingsuper... : (30 August 2014 - 03:26 PM) Just a reminder to everyone interested that Team USA plays Finland today at 2:30 central time on ESPN.
@  RollingWave : (28 August 2014 - 07:34 AM) But yeah, I can understand luxury tax / revenue sharing, but the cap's sole purpose is to help the Owner's pockets and also give jobs to all those captologist
@  RollingWave : (28 August 2014 - 07:33 AM) The irony obviously, sports being the one thing where the US is much more socialist than their European counter part ;)
@  thenit : (27 August 2014 - 08:43 PM) Unless Cle wins 2 rings in 4 years I rather have what Mia has now 2 rings and a likely playoff team
@  thenit : (27 August 2014 - 08:43 PM) That's why I don't like American sports, there shouldn't be any salary cap. It should be like Europe. Hating Socialism except for sports where the whole idea of is to compete to be the best. should be capitalistic and a free for all
@  rocketrick : (27 August 2014 - 11:53 AM) Boring...so which situation is better going forward? Miami Heat with practically no salary cap room after winning 2 titles in 3 years or Cleveland with all kinds of cap room? No wonder LeBron and KLove chose Cleveland. Just saying. NBA Salary Cap is quite onerous in the end.
@  thenit : (27 August 2014 - 02:53 AM) I think it's about right where we should be. We are a contender under the radar
@  rocketrick : (27 August 2014 - 12:42 AM) Las Vegas places 16-1 odds for the Rockets chances this season as the eventual NBA Champion. Only the Cavaliers, Bulls, Spurs, Thunder and Clippers rate better odds than the Rockets. Perhaps too much negativity this off-season in H-town???
@  rocketrick : (26 August 2014 - 11:40 PM) Troy Daniels is more of a SG, too with limited, at best, PG skills. I'm with Rolling Wave, I'd rather have Sessions than Ish Smith backing up Beverley
@  RollingWave : (26 August 2014 - 03:23 AM) Session has about 6x the career minutes of those 5 combined, of course you'd rather have him instead of Ish Smith if you could.
@  rockets best... : (26 August 2014 - 02:31 AM) Basketball Insiders is reporting the Rockets are pursuing a sign and trade for Ramon Session. with Ish, Beverly, Canaan, Nick Johnson and Troy Daniels on the roster I don't understand the move unless one of them will be in the deal and it is a larger deal than being currently reported
@  rockets best... : (25 August 2014 - 06:28 PM) so what you're saying is if Morey does this deal he's stupid? I disagree. we have a thread discussing it below. we can continue our conversation there if your wish
@  rocketrick : (25 August 2014 - 12:18 PM) Morey is not stupid so that just is not gonna happen here period so can we FINALLY just move on now? Bledsoe will sign for the agreed $3.5 million amount for this season and become an UFA next season (for his sake, I truly hope he does not blow out another knee).........
@  rocketrick : (25 August 2014 - 12:16 PM) This is quite frustrating as an avid NBA fan......Bledsoe CLEARLY wants a Max Deal whether that be with Phoenix (impossible in my opinion) or one of the other teams.
@  2016Champions : (25 August 2014 - 12:30 AM) According to Cyberx, Morey wants Bledsoe on a 2 year deal but Bledsoe wants more stability than that.
@  Buckko : (22 August 2014 - 03:31 AM) A logical article from B/R http://bleacherrepor...ext-year/page/6 I'm shocked.
@  Johnny Rocket : (21 August 2014 - 03:20 AM) Thanks for the great links, Buckko!
@  txtdo1411 : (20 August 2014 - 10:13 PM) Bledsoe scares me because of the injuries... that being said it is still probably the right move.
@  jorgeaam : (20 August 2014 - 10:09 PM) Let's go Morey!

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Breaking: Rockets Acquire Thomas Robinson in Mulit-team Trade


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#1 Red94

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Posted 21 February 2013 - 01:20 AM

New post: Breaking: Rockets Acquire Thomas Robinson in Mulit-team Trade
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Posted 21 February 2013 - 01:59 AM

this is a super great trade for the rockets............morey you did it again. you got something for very little cost. robinson is a better version of mm. bringing in garcia is also good for a playoff run. the rockets just dropped another 6.1 mil under the salary cap for next year because garcia's deal has a team option for next year. and honeycutt's deal is not guaranteed. I guess the rockets have deemed d-mo and jones ready to play. this relieves some of the logjam and all at the same time they opened up and extra roster spot. MOREY IS A VERY GOOD GM HANDS DOWN.
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Posted 21 February 2013 - 02:17 AM

Somewhere kade just threw up in his mouth a little bit ....
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Posted 21 February 2013 - 02:39 AM

so much spread pick n roll. robinson doesn't shoot the 3 ball
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Posted 21 February 2013 - 02:39 AM

*so much FOR spread picknroll
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Posted 21 February 2013 - 03:00 AM

Love it. I wanted Robinson in the draft, this is better. I like Garcia, even if for only ~20 games. Wish we could've gotten more for Morris, but it should be a relatively high 2nd round pick, and we didn't take back any bad contracts so that's a win too. I'm thrilled.
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Posted 21 February 2013 - 03:02 AM

I don't know much about Thomas Robinson other than the following:

He was the number 5 overall pick.

Morey valued him (and maybe the pieces along with him or the cap room they brought) enough to let go of Patterson, even though 2Pat has been steadily improving his game and contributing. Morey has done a good job in the past few years of prying away good pieces (either for the team or for later trades), and is always looking to make smart upgrades, and apparently thinks Robinson for Patterson qualifies.

Sacramento seems very dysfunctional, so even though Robinson's numbers are not as good as Patterson's so far, the cultures and the systems the teams run probably account for part of that difference.
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Posted 21 February 2013 - 03:39 AM

This trade is a pretty solid trade even if nothing else happens. Basically turned 4 players, 2 of which were not in the long-term picture and the other 2 were questionable for long-term, into a rookie top 5 pick, an additional 4 million off the salaries after the season, & 2 second round picks.
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Posted 21 February 2013 - 03:40 AM

Then to top it off, the Rockets managed to knock off OKC despite not having the two guys who received 95% of the minutes at PF this season.
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Posted 21 February 2013 - 04:02 AM

Somewhere kade just threw up in his mouth a little bit ....


I like this trade very very much, then again as a Baylor grad I saw a lot of Robinson in college and hope his disappointing play at SAC was more because of the team than him. Plus getting more off the cap is nice.
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Posted 21 February 2013 - 04:03 AM

Freakin' Sacramento.
The Rockets had a deal w/Sac on Draft day for the Sac #5 if Sac's guy wasn't there. And Sac's guy was Robinson,so Sac turned down the trade.
Now Sac trades Robinson. Unbelievable.
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Posted 21 February 2013 - 04:05 AM

*so much FOR spread picknroll

I had the same thought, actually. The Rockets haven't used a single lineup this year that didn't involve 4 three-point shooters on the floor. Putting Robinson in the starting lineup would throw a huge monkey wrench into their offense. I predict we'll see him taking Greg Smith's minutes at back-up center next to D-Mo playing the backup 4. If he can set picks, grab boards and finish for 15 minutes per night, we make the playoffs, he gets to develop in a clearly defined role, and everybody goes home happy (except Greg Smith).
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Posted 21 February 2013 - 04:07 AM

BTW,the Rockets only saved some $1.5mil assuming the team would have kept Pat.
Robinson is due some $3.5mil and Pat and Morris combine for $5mil. Everybody else was/is an expiring.
I must say I'm rather shocked. I thought Morey would trade one of Pat and Morris,not both!
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Posted 21 February 2013 - 04:10 AM

This article, http://aroyalpain.co...atterson-trade/ , sort of tells me that Houston has just raided the cookie jar big time. Personally, I am glad to see movement at the PF. Patterson and Morris failed to impress at the 4, regardless of having 2/3 of a season to establish themselves. As pharmag commented, we managed to knock off OKC with neither of them involved, and a very short bench.

You have to love the effort in tonight's win over OKC. I thought the game was a lost cause when we fell behind by 12 in the 4th quarter, but Harden and crew put their collective heads together and eeked out a tough win. It's a damn shame to have to watch low quality streaming video to "sort of" see the game. Maybe Time Warner will wake up one of these days and offer us a chance to see these Rockets, even if it costs a few bucks a month.
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Posted 21 February 2013 - 04:15 AM

Freakin' Sacramento.
The Rockets had a deal w/Sac on Draft day for the Sac #5 if Sac's guy wasn't there. And Sac's guy was Robinson,so Sac turned down the trade.
Now Sac trades Robinson. Unbelievable.


Lucky us that Sac didn't. We probably draft Drummond. No Harden. Sac's terribleness benefits us.
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Posted 21 February 2013 - 04:22 AM

well I guess this puts all those j smith, milsap rumors to bed.
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Posted 21 February 2013 - 04:40 AM

I honestly like this trade. Like the moving of these guys, and TRob has potential to be a decent player. Also with this move we can get Dmo playing time and Jones as well.
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Posted 21 February 2013 - 05:17 AM

So is this end-game until offseason, or is there another move coming?
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Posted 21 February 2013 - 05:31 AM

So is this end-game until offseason, or is there another move coming?


Probably end game because none of the new acquistions can be flipped. With 1 roster spot open, the Rockets might make 1 more minor move to help another team shed some salary ( cost to the other team would be another draft pick is my best guess). The great thing is the Rockets don't need to make that move unless it totally makes sense. They could instead simply pick up somebody that is kicking a$$ in the D-League. Or just go with a 14-player roster the rest of the season.
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Posted 21 February 2013 - 05:43 AM

Probably end game because none of the new acquistions can be flipped. With 1 roster spot open, the Rockets might make 1 more minor move to help another team shed some salary ( cost to the other team would be another draft pick is my best guess). The great thing is the Rockets don't need to make that move unless it totally makes sense. They could instead simply pick up somebody that is kicking a$$ in the D-League. Or just go with a 14-player roster the rest of the season.


Makes sense. I do like the upside we have at the four now. I think PPat is about as good as he is going to be. He is an excellent scorer but as the 3rd/4th scoring option, he doesn't rebound well enough and his defense isn't always consistent. As for Morris, he is a tweener and will probably always be a bench/match-up player. He has some upside, but again he is a scorer with limited rebounding and even less defense than PPat.

With Robinson, Motie, & Jones, I see a lot of potential. Robinson is a good rebounder and solid defender. While Motie struggles with rebounding & defending due to the size he gives up, he has the most complete post game of any of the PF and with some added size should become a better rebounder and defender. And Jones is a crazy athletic player, if he can manage to put it all together.

At least that is what I have see. Then again, school has kept me pretty busy of late and I am not as on top of it as I usually am.
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