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@  Buckko : (24 October 2014 - 03:57 AM) That's an understatement Cooper.
@  rockets best... : (24 October 2014 - 01:16 AM) Nash should have quit 4 years ago
@  Cooper : (24 October 2014 - 01:15 AM) suns really sold high on him.
@  Willk : (24 October 2014 - 12:03 AM) sad to see nash's career end like this
@  cointurtlemoose : (23 October 2014 - 07:16 PM) Philly "doing it right" is a catch-22 when doing it right is completely sacrificing competitiveness for almost entire seasons. I see what you're saying, and it's not Philly's fault.
@  2016Champions : (23 October 2014 - 05:59 PM) I need more to go on to write something up. Just brainstorming right now. Monroe is more of a defensive plus at the 4 than the 5; I think the reason he played the 5 early on his because he couldn't shoot--no longer the case.
@  08huangj : (23 October 2014 - 12:28 PM) He just doesn't seem like a four to me, he started his career as a center. I also don't think that he'd be happy to be a backup and what does a very reasonable price mean. Maybe you can create a thread.
@  2016Champions : (23 October 2014 - 10:14 AM) Monroe would not only improve our starting 4 spot but also serve as a backup center.
@  2016Champions : (23 October 2014 - 10:12 AM) Should we go after Greg Monroe? He seems to have improved his midrange shot, and considering the likelihood he walks, we might be able to acquire him for a very reasonable price.
@  Buckko : (23 October 2014 - 04:31 AM) I have no problem with philly tanking. If you're gonna do something, do it right. They should be an extremely entertaining team in a few years.
@  Willk : (23 October 2014 - 01:23 AM) 2016 - I agree. I would rather see Canaan play than Ish
@  2016Champions : (23 October 2014 - 01:19 AM) Isaiah Canaan seems to get better with every game.
@  cointurtlemoose : (23 October 2014 - 12:09 AM) That said, Philly is ridiculous. It's entertaining on a level, but it's also out of hand. I was for the reform with the proposed percentages they voted on today. Surprised it didn't pass.
@  cointurtlemoose : (23 October 2014 - 12:08 AM) I think it's interesting Mr. Rick. It's kind of a give and take to me. I'm totally okay with teams intentionally going through a 'rebuilding' phase, and I don't think you want to erase that too much with something like the wheel idea.
@  rocketrick : (22 October 2014 - 10:32 PM) No Lipstick on this Pig........NBA GM's say without a doubt James Harden is the #1 SG and Dwight Howard is the #1 C. Probably more hate coming my way for mentioning. I would just like an occasional informative article on this site from time to time but I guess I just expect too much........
@  rocketrick : (22 October 2014 - 09:41 PM) Why the hate when I post something of consequence?
@  rocketrick : (22 October 2014 - 09:41 PM) Wow, so it sounds like everyone is good with the lottery system as is and teams like Philadelphia can continue to strive for more ping=pong balls season after season rather than be expected to field a competitive team. I am shocked that nobody cares whatsoever about the consequences of what this means going forward (same as always)........
@  thejohnnygold : (22 October 2014 - 09:19 PM) Yeah, I don't find much interest in the lottery system change fail. That being said, perhaps you can just start a topic thread like normal people, see what happens, and not condescend the other members in the process. :)
@  feelingsuper... : (22 October 2014 - 07:43 PM) I'm not terribly interested in the 17 to 13 vote that occurred regarding the Lottery. There's my vote.
@  Losthief : (22 October 2014 - 07:36 PM) @rocketrick sure man, lottery stuff is interesting in a nba sense, i didn't post it here cause its not likely to have much impact on rockets per se, cause i expect us to trade that pellies pick and im not expecting us to be in the lottery (plus didn't we give ours to LAL?)

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Breaking: Rockets Acquire Thomas Robinson in Mulit-team Trade


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#1 Red94

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Posted 21 February 2013 - 01:20 AM

New post: Breaking: Rockets Acquire Thomas Robinson in Mulit-team Trade
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Posted 21 February 2013 - 01:59 AM

this is a super great trade for the rockets............morey you did it again. you got something for very little cost. robinson is a better version of mm. bringing in garcia is also good for a playoff run. the rockets just dropped another 6.1 mil under the salary cap for next year because garcia's deal has a team option for next year. and honeycutt's deal is not guaranteed. I guess the rockets have deemed d-mo and jones ready to play. this relieves some of the logjam and all at the same time they opened up and extra roster spot. MOREY IS A VERY GOOD GM HANDS DOWN.
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Posted 21 February 2013 - 02:17 AM

Somewhere kade just threw up in his mouth a little bit ....
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Posted 21 February 2013 - 02:39 AM

so much spread pick n roll. robinson doesn't shoot the 3 ball
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Posted 21 February 2013 - 02:39 AM

*so much FOR spread picknroll
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Posted 21 February 2013 - 03:00 AM

Love it. I wanted Robinson in the draft, this is better. I like Garcia, even if for only ~20 games. Wish we could've gotten more for Morris, but it should be a relatively high 2nd round pick, and we didn't take back any bad contracts so that's a win too. I'm thrilled.
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Posted 21 February 2013 - 03:02 AM

I don't know much about Thomas Robinson other than the following:

He was the number 5 overall pick.

Morey valued him (and maybe the pieces along with him or the cap room they brought) enough to let go of Patterson, even though 2Pat has been steadily improving his game and contributing. Morey has done a good job in the past few years of prying away good pieces (either for the team or for later trades), and is always looking to make smart upgrades, and apparently thinks Robinson for Patterson qualifies.

Sacramento seems very dysfunctional, so even though Robinson's numbers are not as good as Patterson's so far, the cultures and the systems the teams run probably account for part of that difference.
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Posted 21 February 2013 - 03:39 AM

This trade is a pretty solid trade even if nothing else happens. Basically turned 4 players, 2 of which were not in the long-term picture and the other 2 were questionable for long-term, into a rookie top 5 pick, an additional 4 million off the salaries after the season, & 2 second round picks.
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Posted 21 February 2013 - 03:40 AM

Then to top it off, the Rockets managed to knock off OKC despite not having the two guys who received 95% of the minutes at PF this season.
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Posted 21 February 2013 - 04:02 AM

Somewhere kade just threw up in his mouth a little bit ....


I like this trade very very much, then again as a Baylor grad I saw a lot of Robinson in college and hope his disappointing play at SAC was more because of the team than him. Plus getting more off the cap is nice.
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Posted 21 February 2013 - 04:03 AM

Freakin' Sacramento.
The Rockets had a deal w/Sac on Draft day for the Sac #5 if Sac's guy wasn't there. And Sac's guy was Robinson,so Sac turned down the trade.
Now Sac trades Robinson. Unbelievable.
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Posted 21 February 2013 - 04:05 AM

*so much FOR spread picknroll

I had the same thought, actually. The Rockets haven't used a single lineup this year that didn't involve 4 three-point shooters on the floor. Putting Robinson in the starting lineup would throw a huge monkey wrench into their offense. I predict we'll see him taking Greg Smith's minutes at back-up center next to D-Mo playing the backup 4. If he can set picks, grab boards and finish for 15 minutes per night, we make the playoffs, he gets to develop in a clearly defined role, and everybody goes home happy (except Greg Smith).
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Posted 21 February 2013 - 04:07 AM

BTW,the Rockets only saved some $1.5mil assuming the team would have kept Pat.
Robinson is due some $3.5mil and Pat and Morris combine for $5mil. Everybody else was/is an expiring.
I must say I'm rather shocked. I thought Morey would trade one of Pat and Morris,not both!
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Posted 21 February 2013 - 04:10 AM

This article, http://aroyalpain.co...atterson-trade/ , sort of tells me that Houston has just raided the cookie jar big time. Personally, I am glad to see movement at the PF. Patterson and Morris failed to impress at the 4, regardless of having 2/3 of a season to establish themselves. As pharmag commented, we managed to knock off OKC with neither of them involved, and a very short bench.

You have to love the effort in tonight's win over OKC. I thought the game was a lost cause when we fell behind by 12 in the 4th quarter, but Harden and crew put their collective heads together and eeked out a tough win. It's a damn shame to have to watch low quality streaming video to "sort of" see the game. Maybe Time Warner will wake up one of these days and offer us a chance to see these Rockets, even if it costs a few bucks a month.
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Posted 21 February 2013 - 04:15 AM

Freakin' Sacramento.
The Rockets had a deal w/Sac on Draft day for the Sac #5 if Sac's guy wasn't there. And Sac's guy was Robinson,so Sac turned down the trade.
Now Sac trades Robinson. Unbelievable.


Lucky us that Sac didn't. We probably draft Drummond. No Harden. Sac's terribleness benefits us.
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Posted 21 February 2013 - 04:22 AM

well I guess this puts all those j smith, milsap rumors to bed.
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Posted 21 February 2013 - 04:40 AM

I honestly like this trade. Like the moving of these guys, and TRob has potential to be a decent player. Also with this move we can get Dmo playing time and Jones as well.
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Posted 21 February 2013 - 05:17 AM

So is this end-game until offseason, or is there another move coming?
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Posted 21 February 2013 - 05:31 AM

So is this end-game until offseason, or is there another move coming?


Probably end game because none of the new acquistions can be flipped. With 1 roster spot open, the Rockets might make 1 more minor move to help another team shed some salary ( cost to the other team would be another draft pick is my best guess). The great thing is the Rockets don't need to make that move unless it totally makes sense. They could instead simply pick up somebody that is kicking a$$ in the D-League. Or just go with a 14-player roster the rest of the season.
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Posted 21 February 2013 - 05:43 AM

Probably end game because none of the new acquistions can be flipped. With 1 roster spot open, the Rockets might make 1 more minor move to help another team shed some salary ( cost to the other team would be another draft pick is my best guess). The great thing is the Rockets don't need to make that move unless it totally makes sense. They could instead simply pick up somebody that is kicking a$$ in the D-League. Or just go with a 14-player roster the rest of the season.


Makes sense. I do like the upside we have at the four now. I think PPat is about as good as he is going to be. He is an excellent scorer but as the 3rd/4th scoring option, he doesn't rebound well enough and his defense isn't always consistent. As for Morris, he is a tweener and will probably always be a bench/match-up player. He has some upside, but again he is a scorer with limited rebounding and even less defense than PPat.

With Robinson, Motie, & Jones, I see a lot of potential. Robinson is a good rebounder and solid defender. While Motie struggles with rebounding & defending due to the size he gives up, he has the most complete post game of any of the PF and with some added size should become a better rebounder and defender. And Jones is a crazy athletic player, if he can manage to put it all together.

At least that is what I have see. Then again, school has kept me pretty busy of late and I am not as on top of it as I usually am.
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