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@ bboley24	:	(20 May 2013 - 03:04 PM) a.) Royce has screwed up any chance of someone with pyschological disorders to get signed. So much for being a Pioneer
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Morris traded to phx, also possible Thomas Robinson deal

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#1 Cooper

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Posted 21 February 2013 - 01:02 AM

Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojYahooNBA
The Houston Rockets have traded Marcus Morris to the Phoenix Suns for a future second-round draft pick, league sources tell Y! Sports.

Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojYahooNBA
Sacramento has traded forward Thomas Robinson to the Houston Rockets, league source tells Y Sports.

@sam_amick: Kings send T. Robinson, F. Garcia, T. Honeycutt to Houston for Toney Douglas, Cole Aldrich, Patrick Patterson & cash, USAT has learned.
-Sam Amick

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#2 Matt Maloney's Ghost

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Posted 21 February 2013 - 01:17 AM

Thomas Robinson! I love this deal!

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#3 Ostrow

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Posted 21 February 2013 - 01:17 AM

Love it. And it keeps the Rockets cap flexibility. I believe Garcia has a team option after this year.

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#4 Cooper

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Posted 21 February 2013 - 01:23 AM

Yep he does have a team option.

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#5 Ostrow

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Posted 21 February 2013 - 01:25 AM

Which means.... CAP ROOOOOM

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#6 Matt Maloney's Ghost

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Posted 21 February 2013 - 01:29 AM

Would want to give Josh Smith a MAX or hope to develop Robinson who could POTENTIALLY give you the same thing? I love this deal so much. CAP ROOM!

T.Jones and T.Robinson and Royce White! One of those three have to develop it something. Lets go get Chris Paul. He has to look that this line-up and think twice.

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Posted 21 February 2013 - 01:33 AM

Without ppat and morris we will see what we have in D-Mo and Terrence Jones. Thats a good thing

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#8 Ostrow

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Posted 21 February 2013 - 01:51 AM

I can't imagine they won't trade for another PF who is a little older. How many years does O'Neal have left?

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Posted 21 February 2013 - 01:54 AM

Without ppat and morris we will see what we have in D-Mo and Terrence Jones. Thats a good thing

And Thomas Robinson the #5 pick in the last NBA draft.

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Posted 21 February 2013 - 02:03 AM

man I am buzzing over this deal. got to get me some more tickets! WOW

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#11 pharmag

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Posted 21 February 2013 - 02:05 AM

Francisco Garcia (6.1 million) & Tyler Honeycutt (850K) both have team options for next year. Thomas Robinson is owed 3.5 million next year.

Patrick Patterson (3.1 million) & Marcus Morris (2 million) would have both stayed on the books. Toney Douglas has a 3 million qualifying offer and Cole Aldrich's contract expired saving 2.5 million.

So in essence we got a top 5 pick in Thomas Robinson (who appears to be an excellent rebounder) and enabled the team to shave off an additional 4 million or so. Add to that 2 second round picks (Chase Budinger and Chandler Parsons anyone?). I'd say its an excellent deal.

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#12 timetodienow1234567

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Posted 21 February 2013 - 02:18 AM

Great trade. Although we'll be seeing more of Beverley.

Why so Serious?

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#13 timetodienow1234567

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Posted 21 February 2013 - 02:23 AM

Does anyone feel sorry for Patterson? Going from Houston to Sac? That's got to suck.

Why so Serious?

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#14 pharmag

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Posted 21 February 2013 - 02:26 AM

Great trade. Although we'll be seeing more of Beverley.

Not necessarily a terrible thing. He is a young player at 24 who hustles. If you believe in Hollinger's adjusted stats, he has 14 pts/40, 6.6 rebounds/40 and 8.3 assists/40. But even if you don't, he has more upside than TD who probably wouldn't have been brought back next year anyway.

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Posted 21 February 2013 - 02:27 AM

Does anyone feel sorry for Patterson? Going from Houston to Sac? That's got to suck.

Seems to be the route of all the Rockets undersized PFs...

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#16 timetodienow1234567

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Posted 21 February 2013 - 02:27 AM

True. But he has looked lost at times, and while he has a greater upside than TD(who doesn't?), I don't think he's the better player right now and since we might be making a playoff run, it would have been nice to have TD. But, yeah, I don't think TD is good at all, though.

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#17 pharmag

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Posted 21 February 2013 - 02:32 AM

Only way to fix that is get him some playing time and see if he can learn and adjust. And while we may make the playoffs, we aren't going on a title run. Any playoff experience will be good for this team and if the young guys get to play then that means hopefully they grow and we can rely on them during a championship push.

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#18 blakecouey

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Posted 21 February 2013 - 03:41 AM

True. But he has looked lost at times, and while he has a greater upside than TD(who doesn't?), I don't think he's the better player right now and since we might be making a playoff run, it would have been nice to have TD. But, yeah, I don't think TD is good at all, though.

So Toney Douglas isn't good at all, but you would want him taking a roster slot during the playoffs? Interesting.

I can't imagine they won't trade for another PF who is a little older. How many years does O'Neal have left?

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