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@  Buckko : (30 August 2014 - 08:17 PM) and finally an article on Canaan http://www.ridiculou...-guard#comments
@  feelingsuper... : (30 August 2014 - 03:26 PM) Just a reminder to everyone interested that Team USA plays Finland today at 2:30 central time on ESPN.
@  RollingWave : (28 August 2014 - 07:34 AM) But yeah, I can understand luxury tax / revenue sharing, but the cap's sole purpose is to help the Owner's pockets and also give jobs to all those captologist
@  RollingWave : (28 August 2014 - 07:33 AM) The irony obviously, sports being the one thing where the US is much more socialist than their European counter part ;)
@  thenit : (27 August 2014 - 08:43 PM) Unless Cle wins 2 rings in 4 years I rather have what Mia has now 2 rings and a likely playoff team
@  thenit : (27 August 2014 - 08:43 PM) That's why I don't like American sports, there shouldn't be any salary cap. It should be like Europe. Hating Socialism except for sports where the whole idea of is to compete to be the best. should be capitalistic and a free for all
@  rocketrick : (27 August 2014 - 11:53 AM) Boring...so which situation is better going forward? Miami Heat with practically no salary cap room after winning 2 titles in 3 years or Cleveland with all kinds of cap room? No wonder LeBron and KLove chose Cleveland. Just saying. NBA Salary Cap is quite onerous in the end.
@  thenit : (27 August 2014 - 02:53 AM) I think it's about right where we should be. We are a contender under the radar
@  rocketrick : (27 August 2014 - 12:42 AM) Las Vegas places 16-1 odds for the Rockets chances this season as the eventual NBA Champion. Only the Cavaliers, Bulls, Spurs, Thunder and Clippers rate better odds than the Rockets. Perhaps too much negativity this off-season in H-town???
@  rocketrick : (26 August 2014 - 11:40 PM) Troy Daniels is more of a SG, too with limited, at best, PG skills. I'm with Rolling Wave, I'd rather have Sessions than Ish Smith backing up Beverley
@  RollingWave : (26 August 2014 - 03:23 AM) Session has about 6x the career minutes of those 5 combined, of course you'd rather have him instead of Ish Smith if you could.
@  rockets best... : (26 August 2014 - 02:31 AM) Basketball Insiders is reporting the Rockets are pursuing a sign and trade for Ramon Session. with Ish, Beverly, Canaan, Nick Johnson and Troy Daniels on the roster I don't understand the move unless one of them will be in the deal and it is a larger deal than being currently reported
@  rockets best... : (25 August 2014 - 06:28 PM) so what you're saying is if Morey does this deal he's stupid? I disagree. we have a thread discussing it below. we can continue our conversation there if your wish
@  rocketrick : (25 August 2014 - 12:18 PM) Morey is not stupid so that just is not gonna happen here period so can we FINALLY just move on now? Bledsoe will sign for the agreed $3.5 million amount for this season and become an UFA next season (for his sake, I truly hope he does not blow out another knee).........
@  rocketrick : (25 August 2014 - 12:16 PM) This is quite frustrating as an avid NBA fan......Bledsoe CLEARLY wants a Max Deal whether that be with Phoenix (impossible in my opinion) or one of the other teams.
@  2016Champions : (25 August 2014 - 12:30 AM) According to Cyberx, Morey wants Bledsoe on a 2 year deal but Bledsoe wants more stability than that.
@  Buckko : (22 August 2014 - 03:31 AM) A logical article from B/R http://bleacherrepor...ext-year/page/6 I'm shocked.
@  Johnny Rocket : (21 August 2014 - 03:20 AM) Thanks for the great links, Buckko!
@  txtdo1411 : (20 August 2014 - 10:13 PM) Bledsoe scares me because of the injuries... that being said it is still probably the right move.
@  jorgeaam : (20 August 2014 - 10:09 PM) Let's go Morey!

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#1 Sir Thursday

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Posted 08 February 2013 - 10:44 PM

So Grantland has a really interesting article that scratches the surface of the sort of things you can find out using the STATS LLC video tracking system they've got installed at various arenas across the country. As usual, sterling work from Zach Lowe. His headline point - James Harden is an INSANELY good driver of the basketball. Of course, we already knew that from watching him, but the numbers are pretty awe-inspiring:

Harden averages nine drives per game, which is fifth among players whose teams have the cameras...

...Houston is scoring 1.51 points per possession on trips in which he drives at any time in the shot clock. That is easily the highest mark among all players in the 15-team database with more than a token number of drives. It is a mammoth number; keep in mind, teams average just about one point per possession overall. Harden has drawn a foul on one-third of his drives, which is among the highest numbers in the data set, and sort of amazing when you think about it....

...He has turned over the ball on just 4 percent of his drives, one of the lowest numbers in the data set. The dude is scary. These numbers paint him as even more valuable than we might think.


1.51 is beyond ridiculous. And when you couple that with a much lower turnover number than I was expecting (I'm used to thinking of his drives as somewhat risky because he occasionally gets the ball slapped out of his hands when he extends them out in front of him), it's just deadly.

Lin's numbers were also pretty good, by the way - 1.32 ppp when he drives to the basket. That's apparently about the same as Tony Parker, which is pleasing company to be in. Highly recommend the article, by the way, as there's lots of good insight about quite a few different players around the league. One can only imagine how much interesting information teams with full access to the database must have.

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Posted 09 February 2013 - 04:12 AM

Check this out....seen on twitter...
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Posted 09 February 2013 - 04:53 AM

johnnygold, I was just about to post that! Pretty funny, I also saw that link that Haberstroh had put up. Pretty amazing numbers and I am so glad we have a player like Harden. To think in a couple years he should be entering his prime.
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Posted 09 February 2013 - 05:05 AM

I never in my wildest dreams thought he'd be this good. To think I had secodn thoughts when the trade was made. smh...
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Posted 09 February 2013 - 05:57 AM

I loved the Harden deal as soon as it was made. I thought it was an aight deal for OKC, but an amazing trade for HOU. That being said, I also did not think he would be this good this soon.
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Posted 09 February 2013 - 07:02 AM

I kind of wondered how good he was though I was pretty sure he was better than Martin and prospects. I am starting to think that in trying to emulate SA that OKC made a mistake of not starting Harden with Durant and Westbrook. I mean imagine their team if they had taken a different approach with Harden, actually we will never know. He is going to be one of the greats I think and I hope he always stays a Rocket.
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Posted 09 February 2013 - 07:19 PM

I never in my wildest dreams thought he'd be this good. To think I had secodn thoughts when the trade was made. smh...


It wasnt just you though, it probably was a 50/50 split that Morey had given up too much. And if he is able to make the biggest coup in free agency getting Dwight Howard (baggage and all), he would have the two superstars he has always wanted. And if one or two of the young players grow into the pieces we/Morey think, especially at the PF position, it could be Rockets Vs. Thunder for Western Conference supremecy for they 5-7 years.
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Posted 10 February 2013 - 04:26 PM

Just a little sweetener on all of this--it looked like he was closing out much harder than usual on shooters in that Portland game. I'm cautiously optimistic that if McHale can manage Harden's minutes and the playoff race gets more intense, his defensive intensity will pick up as well. His D on LeBron the other day was solid.
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