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@  rocketrick : (11 July 2014 - 10:07 AM) Bosh should have, and probably was, (been) given a deadline to act. The clock is ticking. Deng and Parsons is better than an empty hand going forward in my opinion...........
@  rocketrick : (11 July 2014 - 10:06 AM) My #1 choice: Rockets sign both Bosh and Chandler. If not, #2 choice, Rockets sign Luol Deng and Parsons. Yep! Otherwise, obscurity and disappointment going forward with H&H in my opinion.
@  majik19 : (11 July 2014 - 03:01 AM) ESPN mentioned in an article about the Lakers that the Rockets' deal with the Pellies for Asik fell through. Has anyone seen this somewhere?
@  feelingsuper... : (11 July 2014 - 01:48 AM) Smells of desperation to me.
@  SadLakerFan : (10 July 2014 - 11:28 PM) Wade is in Las Vegas with Lebron? That can't be good.
@  YaoMan : (10 July 2014 - 10:01 PM) Why is Melo waiting? Everyone says he's 99% sure that he wants to go back to NY but that doesn't affect LBJ or Bosh unless something else is at work here...
@  rocketrick : (10 July 2014 - 09:52 PM) I REALLY have a STRONG hunch that Lebron and Carmelo are waiting to see what Bosh does. Why else would Carmelo still be waiting to decide? Stephen A Smith may have this rumour right, that Lebron and Carmelo want to team up in Miami with DWade.
@  YaoMan : (10 July 2014 - 09:25 PM) No Bosh will NOT take 10mil - rumors is that he felt the Heat were low-balling him at 14mil and after the contracts that Hayward and Parsons got, I don't think he takes anything under 18mil
@  miketheodio : (10 July 2014 - 08:39 PM) would bosh take 10 mil for his last contract? would bosh even leave if lebron left and the heat offered him the max?
@  majik19 : (10 July 2014 - 08:17 PM) if lebron stays in miami, so will bosh. They could probably pay him 10 million/year and he'd stay.
@  miketheodio : (10 July 2014 - 06:11 PM) if james does stay in miami, then you have to wait out bosh's contract w/miami and whether or not they come to an agreement.
@  dbd : (10 July 2014 - 05:57 PM) Per Chron,J. Feigen, Mav held off submitting CP offers to explore sign&trade with Rockets. Cuban killing Morey softly?
@  YaoMan : (10 July 2014 - 05:32 PM) 5 on 5 are just opinions though - not sources of reporting
@  SadLakerFan : (10 July 2014 - 05:31 PM) ESPN 5 on 5 still shows a pretty high level of confidence that James will return to Miami. Not good.
@  YaoMan : (10 July 2014 - 05:14 PM) According to ESPN Dwain Price: The 72 hour clock on Parsons hasn't started yet. Donnie Nelson said the offer sheet won't be submitted until tonight.
@  txtdo1411 : (10 July 2014 - 02:16 PM) Me too YaoMan. I'm really hoping some good news comes out today.
@  YaoMan : (10 July 2014 - 02:13 PM) I hope Rahat's worst case scenario does not come true...I'm starting to get a nasty churn in my stomach
@  YaoMan : (10 July 2014 - 02:09 PM) Damm, I thought Parsons would at least wait a bit and look at other possible teams before signing the offer sheet...
@  Drew in Abilene : (10 July 2014 - 04:08 AM) Here's to hoping that Bosh and Parsons are officially signed to Rockets contracts by this time Saturday...
@  Drew in Abilene : (10 July 2014 - 04:07 AM) Free agency has officially started... Hopefully LeBron makes his choice known today, giving Houston time to figure out next steps.

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#1 Sir Thursday

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Posted 08 February 2013 - 10:44 PM

So Grantland has a really interesting article that scratches the surface of the sort of things you can find out using the STATS LLC video tracking system they've got installed at various arenas across the country. As usual, sterling work from Zach Lowe. His headline point - James Harden is an INSANELY good driver of the basketball. Of course, we already knew that from watching him, but the numbers are pretty awe-inspiring:

Harden averages nine drives per game, which is fifth among players whose teams have the cameras...

...Houston is scoring 1.51 points per possession on trips in which he drives at any time in the shot clock. That is easily the highest mark among all players in the 15-team database with more than a token number of drives. It is a mammoth number; keep in mind, teams average just about one point per possession overall. Harden has drawn a foul on one-third of his drives, which is among the highest numbers in the data set, and sort of amazing when you think about it....

...He has turned over the ball on just 4 percent of his drives, one of the lowest numbers in the data set. The dude is scary. These numbers paint him as even more valuable than we might think.


1.51 is beyond ridiculous. And when you couple that with a much lower turnover number than I was expecting (I'm used to thinking of his drives as somewhat risky because he occasionally gets the ball slapped out of his hands when he extends them out in front of him), it's just deadly.

Lin's numbers were also pretty good, by the way - 1.32 ppp when he drives to the basket. That's apparently about the same as Tony Parker, which is pleasing company to be in. Highly recommend the article, by the way, as there's lots of good insight about quite a few different players around the league. One can only imagine how much interesting information teams with full access to the database must have.

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#2 thejohnnygold

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Posted 09 February 2013 - 04:12 AM

Check this out....seen on twitter...
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Posted 09 February 2013 - 04:53 AM

johnnygold, I was just about to post that! Pretty funny, I also saw that link that Haberstroh had put up. Pretty amazing numbers and I am so glad we have a player like Harden. To think in a couple years he should be entering his prime.
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Posted 09 February 2013 - 05:05 AM

I never in my wildest dreams thought he'd be this good. To think I had secodn thoughts when the trade was made. smh...
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Posted 09 February 2013 - 05:57 AM

I loved the Harden deal as soon as it was made. I thought it was an aight deal for OKC, but an amazing trade for HOU. That being said, I also did not think he would be this good this soon.
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Posted 09 February 2013 - 07:02 AM

I kind of wondered how good he was though I was pretty sure he was better than Martin and prospects. I am starting to think that in trying to emulate SA that OKC made a mistake of not starting Harden with Durant and Westbrook. I mean imagine their team if they had taken a different approach with Harden, actually we will never know. He is going to be one of the greats I think and I hope he always stays a Rocket.
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Posted 09 February 2013 - 07:19 PM

I never in my wildest dreams thought he'd be this good. To think I had secodn thoughts when the trade was made. smh...


It wasnt just you though, it probably was a 50/50 split that Morey had given up too much. And if he is able to make the biggest coup in free agency getting Dwight Howard (baggage and all), he would have the two superstars he has always wanted. And if one or two of the young players grow into the pieces we/Morey think, especially at the PF position, it could be Rockets Vs. Thunder for Western Conference supremecy for they 5-7 years.
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Posted 10 February 2013 - 04:26 PM

Just a little sweetener on all of this--it looked like he was closing out much harder than usual on shooters in that Portland game. I'm cautiously optimistic that if McHale can manage Harden's minutes and the playoff race gets more intense, his defensive intensity will pick up as well. His D on LeBron the other day was solid.
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