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@  slick shoes : (24 August 2015 - 06:14 PM) ill just leave this here...
@  slick shoes : (24 August 2015 - 06:14 PM) http://www.timeandda...04&font=cursive
@  timetodienow... : (21 August 2015 - 07:20 PM) At least in my opinion.
@  timetodienow... : (21 August 2015 - 07:20 PM) I love having Terry. But the main factor was that New Orleans will NOT compete for a championship this year and the Rockets will.
@  jorgeaam : (21 August 2015 - 03:57 AM) Things that make me like the JET even more
@  jorgeaam : (21 August 2015 - 03:57 AM) Jason Terry said that he turned down a more lucrative deal from New Orleans in order to return to Houston.
@  clydesmoustache : (19 August 2015 - 08:32 AM) A year ago who would have thought I would be so happy to have Jason Terry on my team. Welcome back JET! Hurry up October!
@  cointurtlemoose : (19 August 2015 - 04:45 AM) Terry I love yooouuuuuuuuu
@  jorgeaam : (19 August 2015 - 02:38 AM) Yay Terry is back!
@  majik19 : (15 August 2015 - 09:33 PM) and i thought these shouts were limited to some number of characters!
@  thejohnnygold : (15 August 2015 - 02:23 PM) Ha, sorry for the wall of text...
@  thejohnnygold : (15 August 2015 - 02:22 PM) I am very surprised at how many people are interested in a below-the-rim, mid-range-chucking power forward who only grabbed double-digit rebounds 12 times last season (out of 82 games)and would require us to give up personnel that is likely better than he is for our team since D-Mo does everything he can, but better. I seriously doubt Markieff is coming here to play 15 mpg and giving up Jones (plus more players to match salaries) would go down in history as Morey's worst move as a GM. Unless you think Phoenix waits until the trade deadline to move him we only have D-Mo, Jones, Dekker, Capela and Harrell to work with. It would take 4 of those guys because we are over the cap. No way Morey does that deal--not for Morris. Let him go somewhere else and cool his jets a bit...then maybe he can come here as a bench role player down the road. $8M and a roster spot is not a good deal when the player doesn't fit your scheme. He'd be better in Chicago playing Boozer's former role.
@  Dan G : (15 August 2015 - 08:59 AM) I'd give up Jones personally. Even if somehow Jones finally gets his stuff together, then we will have to pay him. Markieff has always been the better player out of the Morris twins, he wants to come here, and he his on a very friendly contract like jorgeaam alluded to.
@  jorgeaam : (14 August 2015 - 11:47 PM) Looks like Markieff is good friends with Harden too (according to Rotoworld, he chose Rockets or Raptors because he's also friends with Lowry). So I wouldn't be too concerned with his attitude either.
@  jorgeaam : (14 August 2015 - 08:39 PM) I think that might be over scalated by the media (same with Josh Smith), from what I've read, they attacked a guy who had some problems with their mom or something like that. Forgot to mention he's on a great deal too (3 years @ 8 million per)
@  cointurtlemoose : (14 August 2015 - 06:21 PM) On the court, Morris would be great. I just don't want any of that bad attitude and hot-headed-ness that he's displayed over the last 6 months (don't forget about the assault)
@  jorgeaam : (14 August 2015 - 04:43 PM) Well, the Suns are in the same position the Nuggets were with Lawson, they need to deal Morris and won't get lots in return. I like him very much as a 6th man, he can shoot the 3 and play both forward spots.
@  slick shoes : (14 August 2015 - 03:59 PM) @JG my sentiments exactly. word on the street is boston and toronto want him. have fun with that, champ.
@  thejohnnygold : (14 August 2015 - 01:22 PM) @Slick Shoes - Nothing.
@  slick shoes : (14 August 2015 - 12:49 PM) What would you be willing to give up for Morris? I like the roster as constructed, personally.

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#1 Sir Thursday

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Posted 08 February 2013 - 10:44 PM

So Grantland has a really interesting article that scratches the surface of the sort of things you can find out using the STATS LLC video tracking system they've got installed at various arenas across the country. As usual, sterling work from Zach Lowe. His headline point - James Harden is an INSANELY good driver of the basketball. Of course, we already knew that from watching him, but the numbers are pretty awe-inspiring:

Harden averages nine drives per game, which is fifth among players whose teams have the cameras...

...Houston is scoring 1.51 points per possession on trips in which he drives at any time in the shot clock. That is easily the highest mark among all players in the 15-team database with more than a token number of drives. It is a mammoth number; keep in mind, teams average just about one point per possession overall. Harden has drawn a foul on one-third of his drives, which is among the highest numbers in the data set, and sort of amazing when you think about it....

...He has turned over the ball on just 4 percent of his drives, one of the lowest numbers in the data set. The dude is scary. These numbers paint him as even more valuable than we might think.


1.51 is beyond ridiculous. And when you couple that with a much lower turnover number than I was expecting (I'm used to thinking of his drives as somewhat risky because he occasionally gets the ball slapped out of his hands when he extends them out in front of him), it's just deadly.

Lin's numbers were also pretty good, by the way - 1.32 ppp when he drives to the basket. That's apparently about the same as Tony Parker, which is pleasing company to be in. Highly recommend the article, by the way, as there's lots of good insight about quite a few different players around the league. One can only imagine how much interesting information teams with full access to the database must have.

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Posted 09 February 2013 - 04:12 AM

Check this out....seen on twitter...
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Posted 09 February 2013 - 04:53 AM

johnnygold, I was just about to post that! Pretty funny, I also saw that link that Haberstroh had put up. Pretty amazing numbers and I am so glad we have a player like Harden. To think in a couple years he should be entering his prime.
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Posted 09 February 2013 - 05:05 AM

I never in my wildest dreams thought he'd be this good. To think I had secodn thoughts when the trade was made. smh...
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Posted 09 February 2013 - 05:57 AM

I loved the Harden deal as soon as it was made. I thought it was an aight deal for OKC, but an amazing trade for HOU. That being said, I also did not think he would be this good this soon.
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#6 Mario Peña

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Posted 09 February 2013 - 07:02 AM

I kind of wondered how good he was though I was pretty sure he was better than Martin and prospects. I am starting to think that in trying to emulate SA that OKC made a mistake of not starting Harden with Durant and Westbrook. I mean imagine their team if they had taken a different approach with Harden, actually we will never know. He is going to be one of the greats I think and I hope he always stays a Rocket.
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Posted 09 February 2013 - 07:19 PM

I never in my wildest dreams thought he'd be this good. To think I had secodn thoughts when the trade was made. smh...


It wasnt just you though, it probably was a 50/50 split that Morey had given up too much. And if he is able to make the biggest coup in free agency getting Dwight Howard (baggage and all), he would have the two superstars he has always wanted. And if one or two of the young players grow into the pieces we/Morey think, especially at the PF position, it could be Rockets Vs. Thunder for Western Conference supremecy for they 5-7 years.
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Posted 10 February 2013 - 04:26 PM

Just a little sweetener on all of this--it looked like he was closing out much harder than usual on shooters in that Portland game. I'm cautiously optimistic that if McHale can manage Harden's minutes and the playoff race gets more intense, his defensive intensity will pick up as well. His D on LeBron the other day was solid.
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