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@  thejohnnygold : (23 September 2016 - 03:02 PM) @Slick Shoes - I don't think so....I may have had him bundled in a trade scenario or two back when Phoenix had ALL the PG's.
@  slick shoes : (22 September 2016 - 08:53 PM) I'm liking the trade with Beasley for Tyler Ennis. JG, weren't you advocating drafting him a year or two ago?
@  thejohnnygold : (17 September 2016 - 03:38 PM) I think they will eventually settle on a good deal, but it will likely have early team options to protect against his chronic injury problems.
@  slick shoes : (16 September 2016 - 02:47 PM) If no one else is making any offers, why would we exceed the minimum? Is it that he/his agent think his value is higher than the market dictates?
@  thejohnnygold : (16 September 2016 - 01:08 PM) Yup. The last sentence of that article says it all. "All deals get done in the 11th hour".
@  DenverRocket : (15 September 2016 - 06:16 PM) The latest on D-Mo http://www.espn.com/...rockets-lagging
@  slick shoes : (29 August 2016 - 11:42 AM) At some point they've got to start trading SOME of these picks for veteran players...
@  thejohnnygold : (26 August 2016 - 10:03 PM) Call me crazy, but I'd rather have Kendall Marshall than 2 2nd rounders.
@  slick shoes : (26 August 2016 - 08:30 PM) the 76's trade for another center? im assuming they were really after the two 2nd rounders...
@  thejohnnygold : (07 August 2016 - 07:16 PM) Nope, but there is some raw talent to work with there. He is years away...
@  majik19 : (06 August 2016 - 11:53 PM) well it doesn't look like Zhou Qi is NBA-ready
@  thejohnnygold : (25 July 2016 - 04:26 PM) I think I am going to like Bobby Brown...that is within the confines of our current strategy which is score, score, SCORE!
@  slick shoes : (22 July 2016 - 08:02 PM) The "super team" Knicks? lol
@  thejohnnygold : (22 July 2016 - 06:05 PM) On Josh Smith...my guess is the Knicks eventually sign him.
@  slick shoes : (21 July 2016 - 04:29 PM) The Jet has been released. Josh Smith will likely play for another team next season. Maybe he teams up with Dwight in ATL?
@  slick shoes : (21 July 2016 - 12:17 PM) Harden is now sending hitmen after Rockets legends' sons for badmouthing him on social media *facepalm*
@  slick shoes : (18 July 2016 - 02:22 PM) If you haven't seen the 30 for 30 "The Guru of Go", I recommend it before the upcoming season.
@  Shy Silver : (14 July 2016 - 07:20 PM) Yea I know, but there were reports both sides were willing to have a reunion before Chicago signed him. So at the time, Canaan was an option, and a better one than Pablo at that. We should've capitalized on that one, especially with how well he fits the system for obvious reasons + age on his side.
@  thejohnnygold : (14 July 2016 - 03:43 PM) Canaan signed with Chicago already
@  Shy Silver : (14 July 2016 - 03:24 PM) Don't love the Prigioni move. Thought for sure we had better options like bringing Canaan back or getting someone like Shane Larkin

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#1 Red94

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Posted 04 February 2013 - 06:08 PM

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#2 thejohnnygold

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Posted 04 February 2013 - 07:39 PM

Yup. Odds are we sit tight. I think we'll make an offer at Millsap in the offseason, but nothing that kills our cap space. Josh Smith just doesn't fit Morey's philosophy. Low % shots and terrible at the free throw line. It actually speaks to how talented he is that he excels despite doing it the hard way. Reddick might be a nice fit next to Harden--at least offensively. His contract expires at season's end...if we sign him what is the price? He is currently making $6 million.

Meh, Millsap is the only guy I like for Houston, but I think he will get bigger offers from elsewhere. I am happy to move forward and watch our guys develop.
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Posted 05 February 2013 - 04:31 AM

I also would love nothing more than for us to stand pat thejohnnygold. unless someone better come onto the trade market the players available simply don't interest me enough to pursue them. our options will be better at years end.
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Posted 05 February 2013 - 05:00 AM

I wonder if Morey will be willing to sit tight for a couple of years. The guys on the market all have major flaws, the free agent class isn't great, but we have a ton of room. Maybe someone better will come on the market later and we'll be able to make a play at him.
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Posted 05 February 2013 - 04:26 PM

Also, if we stand pat we will have the ability to "rent out" our cap space again next year and possibly snag a draft pick or two in the process. I believe with the new CBA running a successful team will require a model similar to the patriots in the NFL. Constantly reloading through the draft to build around your core. The only other alternative is to find a group of players willing to accept less $ to stay together and compete for championships....good luck with that!
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Posted 05 February 2013 - 07:22 PM

I don't really see a blockbuster in the cards unless there is a Deron Williams-type unexpected availability of a superstar (Kevin Love and LaMarcus Aldridge as mentioned would be ideal). I think Daryl will wait as long as possible to see if anything big materializes before moving to smaller deals such as shipping Toney Douglas (who has become expendable after the Beverley signing) off to a team that needs a PG and/or bench scoring (Boston? Atlanta?). In my opinion, there's no way Morey will make a deal with one of these studs with expiring contracts without knowing they will sign an extension (like Harden). With the addition of the Beard and other pieces, the Rockets are past their previous point of desparation when they would gamble on a star not knowing whether they could keep him.

With all that being said, in a perfect scenario I think we'd see something like this:

LaMarcus Aldridge or Kevin Love for Patrick Patterson, Toney Douglas, Cole Aldrich, Donatas Montiejunas and draft picks.

Both of these deals would have the Rockets taking on ~$7 million in salary (most of their current cap space) while the Blazers/TWolves would get some expiring contracts (Douglas/Aldrich) and some young, controllable big men (2Pat/D-Mo). To be clear, I dont think the Blazers or TWolves would be getting enough value in these deals so it would take an organizational meltdown for either of these to happen but IF these players went on the block, there just aren't many teams that can put together young packages of players. Keep in mind that the Jazz traded D-Will for Derrick Favors, Devin Harris and two 1st rounders so this deal doesn't seem that far fetched. All four of the Rockets players listed were 1st round picks so there's talent here.
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Posted 05 February 2013 - 07:38 PM

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Posted 05 February 2013 - 10:17 PM

Favors was/is a lot better prospect than anyone we have though.
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Posted 06 February 2013 - 12:31 AM

Unlike at previous deadlines, now seems like the right time to sit back and do nothing. The benefits of continuity probably outweigh the marginal improvement we could make by trading Toney Douglas for a 3-and-D guy or an aging 4.

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Posted 06 February 2013 - 01:51 AM

I'd agree that the marginal improvement wouldn't be worth it... IF we were trying to contend this year. But we aren't. Toney Douglas has been great this year but he is on a contract year and the Rockets aren't expected to re-sign him and Patrick Beverley has proven to be a pretty decent backup PG. I think if the Rockets can trade Toney for a draft pick or a young asset they will do it even knowing that it might hurt their team for the rest of the season. Just like the entire purpose of the article, the Rockets arent trying to build an 8 seed, they are trying to build a legit contender.

Note that all of this also applies to Cole Aldrich although obviously he doesn't play much. Expiring contracts are huge assets and the Rockets will probably try to use those.
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Posted 06 February 2013 - 01:55 AM

Cooper- agreed that Favors is a better prospect than any of those Rockets. My point is that how many teams have good prospects AND cap space?? Not many. So options are limited.
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Posted 06 February 2013 - 02:30 AM

I vote for staying put. There's no rush, and the guys available (trade block or upcoming free agency) won't make us contenders. I'd like Morey to aim for 2014 free agency
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Posted 10 February 2013 - 09:39 PM

I'd love to make the playoffs this year, and think we will, but if there were a small deal or two that could improve us long term, I'd love to see it happen. I know it's a long shot, and wouldn't want to bank on it, but I like the idea of being a prime destination for Free Agents in the next few years. If we've got the cap space and a team that's already threatening the top of the West, maybe we could snag one of the top FAs. Building for that future starts with a few more tweaks in the near term and more maturation and coalescing from our young core.
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