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@  Willk : (02 September 2014 - 02:20 AM) Jeff Adrien is a bad man http://twitpic.com/dlrurt
@  jorgeaam : (01 September 2014 - 04:07 AM) Probably a Parsons and a Beverley on those second rounders :P
@  feelingsuper... : (31 August 2014 - 09:31 PM) I don't mind Terry, it's a low cost gamble. I do like the 2 second rounders Morey acquired.
@  feelingsuper... : (31 August 2014 - 09:30 PM) Harden looked good once he got past the foul trouble and Coach K put the ball in his hands unlike the first half.
@  Willk : (31 August 2014 - 09:15 PM) harden 7 assists 0 TOs
@  Willk : (31 August 2014 - 09:09 PM) FSS - I do not know how to feel about that
@  feelingsuper... : (31 August 2014 - 09:01 PM) Woj reporting Kings working on deal to send Jason Terry to Rockets.
@  Buckko : (30 August 2014 - 08:17 PM) and finally an article on Canaan http://www.ridiculou...-guard#comments
@  feelingsuper... : (30 August 2014 - 03:26 PM) Just a reminder to everyone interested that Team USA plays Finland today at 2:30 central time on ESPN.
@  RollingWave : (28 August 2014 - 07:34 AM) But yeah, I can understand luxury tax / revenue sharing, but the cap's sole purpose is to help the Owner's pockets and also give jobs to all those captologist
@  RollingWave : (28 August 2014 - 07:33 AM) The irony obviously, sports being the one thing where the US is much more socialist than their European counter part ;)
@  thenit : (27 August 2014 - 08:43 PM) Unless Cle wins 2 rings in 4 years I rather have what Mia has now 2 rings and a likely playoff team
@  thenit : (27 August 2014 - 08:43 PM) That's why I don't like American sports, there shouldn't be any salary cap. It should be like Europe. Hating Socialism except for sports where the whole idea of is to compete to be the best. should be capitalistic and a free for all
@  rocketrick : (27 August 2014 - 11:53 AM) Boring...so which situation is better going forward? Miami Heat with practically no salary cap room after winning 2 titles in 3 years or Cleveland with all kinds of cap room? No wonder LeBron and KLove chose Cleveland. Just saying. NBA Salary Cap is quite onerous in the end.
@  thenit : (27 August 2014 - 02:53 AM) I think it's about right where we should be. We are a contender under the radar
@  rocketrick : (27 August 2014 - 12:42 AM) Las Vegas places 16-1 odds for the Rockets chances this season as the eventual NBA Champion. Only the Cavaliers, Bulls, Spurs, Thunder and Clippers rate better odds than the Rockets. Perhaps too much negativity this off-season in H-town???
@  rocketrick : (26 August 2014 - 11:40 PM) Troy Daniels is more of a SG, too with limited, at best, PG skills. I'm with Rolling Wave, I'd rather have Sessions than Ish Smith backing up Beverley
@  RollingWave : (26 August 2014 - 03:23 AM) Session has about 6x the career minutes of those 5 combined, of course you'd rather have him instead of Ish Smith if you could.
@  rockets best... : (26 August 2014 - 02:31 AM) Basketball Insiders is reporting the Rockets are pursuing a sign and trade for Ramon Session. with Ish, Beverly, Canaan, Nick Johnson and Troy Daniels on the roster I don't understand the move unless one of them will be in the deal and it is a larger deal than being currently reported
@  rockets best... : (25 August 2014 - 06:28 PM) so what you're saying is if Morey does this deal he's stupid? I disagree. we have a thread discussing it below. we can continue our conversation there if your wish

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#1 Red94

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Posted 04 February 2013 - 06:08 PM

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#2 thejohnnygold

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Posted 04 February 2013 - 07:39 PM

Yup. Odds are we sit tight. I think we'll make an offer at Millsap in the offseason, but nothing that kills our cap space. Josh Smith just doesn't fit Morey's philosophy. Low % shots and terrible at the free throw line. It actually speaks to how talented he is that he excels despite doing it the hard way. Reddick might be a nice fit next to Harden--at least offensively. His contract expires at season's end...if we sign him what is the price? He is currently making $6 million.

Meh, Millsap is the only guy I like for Houston, but I think he will get bigger offers from elsewhere. I am happy to move forward and watch our guys develop.
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Posted 05 February 2013 - 04:31 AM

I also would love nothing more than for us to stand pat thejohnnygold. unless someone better come onto the trade market the players available simply don't interest me enough to pursue them. our options will be better at years end.
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you can only warn a man that the bridge is out.....if he keeps driving he's on his own B)


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Posted 05 February 2013 - 05:00 AM

I wonder if Morey will be willing to sit tight for a couple of years. The guys on the market all have major flaws, the free agent class isn't great, but we have a ton of room. Maybe someone better will come on the market later and we'll be able to make a play at him.
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Posted 05 February 2013 - 04:26 PM

Also, if we stand pat we will have the ability to "rent out" our cap space again next year and possibly snag a draft pick or two in the process. I believe with the new CBA running a successful team will require a model similar to the patriots in the NFL. Constantly reloading through the draft to build around your core. The only other alternative is to find a group of players willing to accept less $ to stay together and compete for championships....good luck with that!
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Posted 05 February 2013 - 07:22 PM

I don't really see a blockbuster in the cards unless there is a Deron Williams-type unexpected availability of a superstar (Kevin Love and LaMarcus Aldridge as mentioned would be ideal). I think Daryl will wait as long as possible to see if anything big materializes before moving to smaller deals such as shipping Toney Douglas (who has become expendable after the Beverley signing) off to a team that needs a PG and/or bench scoring (Boston? Atlanta?). In my opinion, there's no way Morey will make a deal with one of these studs with expiring contracts without knowing they will sign an extension (like Harden). With the addition of the Beard and other pieces, the Rockets are past their previous point of desparation when they would gamble on a star not knowing whether they could keep him.

With all that being said, in a perfect scenario I think we'd see something like this:

LaMarcus Aldridge or Kevin Love for Patrick Patterson, Toney Douglas, Cole Aldrich, Donatas Montiejunas and draft picks.

Both of these deals would have the Rockets taking on ~$7 million in salary (most of their current cap space) while the Blazers/TWolves would get some expiring contracts (Douglas/Aldrich) and some young, controllable big men (2Pat/D-Mo). To be clear, I dont think the Blazers or TWolves would be getting enough value in these deals so it would take an organizational meltdown for either of these to happen but IF these players went on the block, there just aren't many teams that can put together young packages of players. Keep in mind that the Jazz traded D-Will for Derrick Favors, Devin Harris and two 1st rounders so this deal doesn't seem that far fetched. All four of the Rockets players listed were 1st round picks so there's talent here.
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Posted 05 February 2013 - 07:38 PM

Nice post ckingtcu, welcome to Red94.
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Posted 05 February 2013 - 10:17 PM

Favors was/is a lot better prospect than anyone we have though.
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Posted 06 February 2013 - 12:31 AM

Unlike at previous deadlines, now seems like the right time to sit back and do nothing. The benefits of continuity probably outweigh the marginal improvement we could make by trading Toney Douglas for a 3-and-D guy or an aging 4.

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Posted 06 February 2013 - 01:51 AM

I'd agree that the marginal improvement wouldn't be worth it... IF we were trying to contend this year. But we aren't. Toney Douglas has been great this year but he is on a contract year and the Rockets aren't expected to re-sign him and Patrick Beverley has proven to be a pretty decent backup PG. I think if the Rockets can trade Toney for a draft pick or a young asset they will do it even knowing that it might hurt their team for the rest of the season. Just like the entire purpose of the article, the Rockets arent trying to build an 8 seed, they are trying to build a legit contender.

Note that all of this also applies to Cole Aldrich although obviously he doesn't play much. Expiring contracts are huge assets and the Rockets will probably try to use those.
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Posted 06 February 2013 - 01:55 AM

Cooper- agreed that Favors is a better prospect than any of those Rockets. My point is that how many teams have good prospects AND cap space?? Not many. So options are limited.
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Posted 06 February 2013 - 02:30 AM

I vote for staying put. There's no rush, and the guys available (trade block or upcoming free agency) won't make us contenders. I'd like Morey to aim for 2014 free agency
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Posted 10 February 2013 - 09:39 PM

I'd love to make the playoffs this year, and think we will, but if there were a small deal or two that could improve us long term, I'd love to see it happen. I know it's a long shot, and wouldn't want to bank on it, but I like the idea of being a prime destination for Free Agents in the next few years. If we've got the cap space and a team that's already threatening the top of the West, maybe we could snag one of the top FAs. Building for that future starts with a few more tweaks in the near term and more maturation and coalescing from our young core.
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