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@  Cooper : (01 February 2015 - 06:18 AM) can't be giving up 28 to Kcp and augstin even if its the second game of the same day.
@  Losthief : (01 February 2015 - 06:18 AM) yeah my heart about fell out of my chest when he was just layin there in the 2nd...i was like oh shit...
@  Mario Peña : (01 February 2015 - 06:14 AM) I am glad Harden played through whatever happened and played like a man on a mission.
@  Losthief : (01 February 2015 - 03:16 AM) good news: Harden came back after scare looking great. Which for me is more impt than beating a east team on the road on the 2nd half of a back to back.
@  Losthief : (01 February 2015 - 03:15 AM) bad news: We came up short on the rally
@  rocketrick : (31 January 2015 - 07:16 PM) MM complaining about the home crowds at Rockets game apparently from his vantage point watching the games on TV is a joke. I'm a season ticket holder, so yes, I take MM's statements as an affront.
@  rocketrick : (31 January 2015 - 07:14 PM) MM claiming Josh Smith has had ONE good night on the offensive end is far from the truth. How about the Memphis game, the Chicago game, the OKC game, the Cleveland game amongst others. He double-doubled last night in Boston.
@  rocketrick : (31 January 2015 - 07:12 PM) Cousins actually did make the All-Star game, is Kobe's replacement.
@  cointurtlemoose : (31 January 2015 - 02:58 AM) Well, the first half of the game looked really good...
@  08huangj : (30 January 2015 - 12:21 PM) Dwight Howard could be out for an extended period of time
@  jorgeaam : (30 January 2015 - 12:44 AM) No Demarcus Cousins or Damian Lillard in the All-Star game, by the way
@  jorgeaam : (30 January 2015 - 12:40 AM) In the non-surprising new of the day, James Harden was selected as an All-Star reserve
@  Alituro : (29 January 2015 - 04:49 PM) If you look in the corners and behind the basket... where the regular ticket buyers sit, it tells a different story.
@  Alituro : (29 January 2015 - 04:48 PM) Our home crowd appearance is misleading as the seats along the sides that you see on TV are corporate seats and usually spoken for each game but the patrons spend their time in the lounges and restaurants
@  Alituro : (29 January 2015 - 04:45 PM) Our crowd certainly came alive when it came time to Ice Chandler's Flagrant FTs
@  Matt Maloney... : (29 January 2015 - 04:44 PM) Congrats to Josh Smith for having a ONE good night on the offensive end. His D and rebounding is always good, don't tell me you don't cringe when he takes a jumper at the top of the key when you have a MVP out there
@  Matt Maloney... : (29 January 2015 - 04:42 PM) If you have league pass, even the Knicks have a better home crowd
@  Matt Maloney... : (29 January 2015 - 04:40 PM) For those of us who no longer live in Houston, lives in LA, and pays the high prices at the Staples Center to watch the Rockets play, and you see the support the Lakers get, yeah I think I have a point
@  rocketrick : (29 January 2015 - 01:41 PM) Same dude also complaining about Josh Smith jump shots. Yesterday evening at the game over at Toyota Center (it's Downtown, let me know if anyone needs directions on how to get there) I saw solid evidence of the 2011 Josh Smith.
@  rocketrick : (29 January 2015 - 01:35 PM) I don't understand people on this site complaining about the Rockets home crowd while the complainers clearly are not buying tickets and going to the game.

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#1 areteejay789

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Posted 09 January 2013 - 02:34 PM

Is it too early to start thinking about the trade deadline? With morey as the GM, I think not.

What trades do you think we will pull off this deadline. Theres lots of chat about big name signings, but what about smaller things. Maybe another backup guard? Another veteran shooter? try and pick up draft picks for the future?

Will morey go all in at this deadline to try and win this year? or will he be happy with the 4-7th seed in the playoffs, and build through growth? I think delfino might be a trade target for a lot of other contending teams. While he is a great fit for us, I think we would rather have a late first round pick to help facilitate a trade for another all-star.
and his trade value is at an all time high after some incredible three point shooting performances. Do miami want another shooter? Memphis almost certainly could use him, the warriors might want him.

who else will we trade for, or give up?
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Posted 09 January 2013 - 03:23 PM

i think you'll see them rent out their cap space to teams over the limit.
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Posted 09 January 2013 - 03:42 PM

As long as we are this good and actually achieving a playoff spot comfortably, I don't see Houston wanting to trade Delfino. I know Morey pulls some surprises always thinking about the whole picture which many of us don't see. Come the trade deadline, let's suppose we are somewhere between 4th and 6th spot, would we jeopardize that chemistry tearing the team apart just to facilitate someone else getting a star?
I didn't understood this particular signing when it happened, but I came to accept it and right now it's paying off big time, so right now I wouldn't like to see him leave to improve someone else's chance to contend while priving us from one very handy weapon. But then again, Morey is looking way far ahead than us.
By accident or not, following a line of events, drafting Landry eventually turned into getting Harden, so....no one knows. My opinion is to play this season as it is, with this crew or minor tweaks (like signing Beverley or Anderson cutting Machado and Cook) and next year we'll see. Right now, I'd keep Delfino, pick up that team option (if I'm correct, it's only 3M) if he produces consistently for us the entire season and talk about this again on January 2014.
I wouldn't mind, although, bringing a guard who plays above average individual defense to play for the second unit. I've said it already in another thread. Houston's team defense is not that bad. Sure, we allow a lot of points, but that's mainly second chance points and points off turnovers. We get a lot of steals, but would be great to have a guard who can complement what Asik brings to the first unit, someone like Tony Allen (not sure about his contractual situation).
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Posted 09 January 2013 - 04:10 PM

What about getting Stat and Shump and maybe a pick for pretty much nothing. I know Stat's contract is a lot to eat, but he's lightyears better than what we currently have and he'll thrive in this pick and roll system with Harden and Lin. He'll also not have to deal with a SF who is a combo SF/PF that takes all of his spots(Melo). It's a big risk with his health, but if they were to do it and he they stay healthy, this team contends for a championship THIS year. Just a thought, and the risk is probably too much but just floating it out there.
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Posted 09 January 2013 - 04:14 PM

i think you'll see them rent out their cap space to teams over the limit.


That's an intriguing idea....what do you think we could get for said service?
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Posted 09 January 2013 - 04:22 PM

What about giving away a 1st round pick for Derrick Williams(We're looking to be a playoff team so our pick will be in the high 20s)? Our team is young and playing in a system where he'll get open looks might help Derrick Williams. We need a PF and his stock is pretty low. The Wolves are over the cap and if they are out of contention in the coming weeks they might just give him up for cheap.
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Posted 09 January 2013 - 04:36 PM

I dont think we can trade our pick this year untill after the season because we owe it to someone (atlanta) if we make the playoffs. even if it doesn't look like we can make playoffs, we still cant trade it, just in case. We gave the toronto and Dallas pick (from jordan hill trade) to OKC along with a second rounder (from charlotte via courtney lee trade) but do we still have any seconds left from the camby trade? If not, then we only have our second rounder in the upcoming draft.

If we were to rent out our cap space for any longer than this season, morey will want a lot in return, because then he won't be able to make a run at any free agents this summer. (then again, unless dwight or CP3 leave their teams, i dont think there are any free agents we could sign to put this team over the edge - Im not too high on smith or jefferson or milsap) Maybe take a 2 year (one and a half left) contract from someone in return for a mid first rounder. like the 16th or so.
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Posted 09 January 2013 - 04:40 PM

We still have our 2014 1st round pick though. Here's a good link for information. http://basketball.re...drafts/detailed
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Posted 09 January 2013 - 04:46 PM

We cant trade our 2014 first round pick untill we know what is happening with our pick this year. Remember you cannot trade firsts in consecutive years, untill the first of those first round picks has been used on a player.
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Posted 09 January 2013 - 04:48 PM

Oh. Good point. We may have to give up Delfino in looking for a young, talented PF then.
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Posted 09 January 2013 - 04:56 PM

What about derrick favours? Any chance we could pry him away? he is a good defender, and projects to be a force in the league. Although i think the jazz want to build around him and Kanter and haywood and burks.
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Posted 09 January 2013 - 04:58 PM

What about derrick favours? Any chance we could pry him away? he is a good defender, and projects to be a force in the league. Although i think the jazz want to build around him and Kanter and haywood and burks.


No chance. They have so many expiring contracts in Jefferson and Millsap that they will NEVER give him away unless they get someone like Harden. Which won't happen. But Millsap or Jefferson is a possibility.
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Posted 09 January 2013 - 05:16 PM

Depends on what the team feels about Jones and Motie's progress.
If the team thinks at least one is ready for the rotation then I see either Pat or Morris moved for a First.
And I can definitely see the Rockets taking on an expiring contract and a First to make someone else's trade work.

As to the salary dump,perhaps Hamilton of Chicago. Only $1mil guaranteed for next yr,nice salary dump for someone at draft,and Chicago has a Charlotte First-lottery protected for a few yrs then completely unprotected in 2016.
Remotely,Atlanta and either Morrow or Korver(Morrow more likely) for the Rockets 2013 pick back. Straight salary dump for 1 yr.
Cleveland sending Walton,Miami First for Aldrich.
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Posted 09 January 2013 - 05:29 PM

Teams w/multiple Firsts in 2013:
Atl-their own and Houston's
Charlotte-likely their own(top 12 Lottery protected),Portland,Detroit
Chicago-own and Charlotte
Cleveland-own,Miami,Lakers,Sacramento
Miami-traded own First,Philly
Minn-traded own,Memphis
OKC-own,Dallas,Toronto
Phoenix-own,Minn,Lakers
Utah-own,GS

Teams without a 2013 First or cannot trade it because 2014 has been traded:
Brooklyn(2014 traded)
Dallas
Denver(traded 2014,have 2014 NY)
Detroit
GS
Houston
Lakers
Memphis
NY(traded 2014)
Philly
Portland
Sacramento
Toronto
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Posted 09 January 2013 - 05:30 PM

I just remembered Cole Aldrich. Surely he will be going at the deadline. He provides nothing useful, but has an expiring contract of 2.5 (ish) million that could help some other teams who are close to the luxury tax. An expiring contract like that, plus half a season to see if a former number 11 overall pick can play, has got to be worth a contenders first (miami via cleveland as Stephen said).

Also, now that Varajao is most likely too injured to be traded, that makes the market much better for sellers of big men. I don't know how that affects us because i don't know the plan, but it does mean PPat, Aldrich, Morris and Greg smith have more value. (i dont want to trade greg smith, just saying that he has more value now)
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Posted 09 January 2013 - 05:35 PM

this draft is going to be pretty weak so I don't think draft picks are going to carry the same clout as in years past. however considering morey's eye for talent grabbing an extra first rounder might be of interest to him, and even moreso if we have to give ours up this year.
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Posted 09 January 2013 - 06:17 PM

ESPN Insider article today lists the top 10 "trade chips". Included are 3 players the same article considers as potential PF moves the Rockets might consider. Derrick Williams of Minnesota, Amir Johnson of Toronto and Brandon Bass. Jordan Hill is also one of the trade chips but needless to say the Rockets have no interest in his services any longer. Other PF "trade chips" on the top 10 list include Tobias Harris of Milwaukee, Gustavo Ayon of Orlando and Brandon Wright of Dallas. 7/10 of the trade chips are PF's. Seems that Morey and Alexander could have a shopping list of PF's to choose from.

Should the Rockets consider any of these 7 and what are your reasons why they should?

The only one that somewhat interests me is Derrick Williams because of his athleticism and his ability to hit the outside shot. Perhaps a change of scenery to Houston and more playing time would aid in Derrick's development as an elite NBA player.
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Posted 09 January 2013 - 06:28 PM

Derrick Williams but they would have to give up Delfino to get him and maybe a 2nd rounder.
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Posted 09 January 2013 - 06:48 PM

Interestingly, the article talks about amir johnson as being a good value contract. 6.5 mil this year, 7 mil next (i think). To me, that is too much money to pay to a PF who would be our second big off the bench. We have an almost identical player (Smith) on a much better value contract.

I agree Derrick Wiliams is the only person of any interest. None of the other players seem to be much of an upgrade, and while williams wouldn't necessarily be better than what we have, i think he has more potential than any mentioned so far, including our bigs.
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Posted 09 January 2013 - 08:32 PM

What do you think of trading for Varejao. I realize he's out until the beginning of March, barring any setbacks, but his stock is EXTREMELY low right now being that it's the third straight season he's missed significant games due to injury. He's an avid rebounder and is hard-working and an energy guy. If he can give that to our young PFs, that's invaluable. Also, he might not cost as much as previously thought. We would probably have to involve a third team that needs a Delfino type player and give up one of our young guys probably Jones or Smith. It's a risk, but his energy and work ethic would do wonders for this team and would vault them into playoff contention. I know we amnestied Scola(who is a little bit worse than Varejao) but that was before we had a real shot this year. A starting 5 of Lin/Harden/Parsons/Varejao/Asik would be very tough to beat, especially if they continue to all get better. Not a one of the Rockets player has peaked, (maybe Delfino).
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