Kade:
where are you come out come out where ever you are. lets have this conversation outside of the white thread. I'll get it kicked off.
I can tell from your comments you don't like morey, but your points are unfounded. the yao/mc grady years do not predate morey. he was GM when we traded for mc grady. he was the GM when we brought jeff van gundy here as coach. morey hired adelman. while I don't like every decision morey makes he hasn't done anything that would warrant the rockets considering a change at that position. I didn't like the mc hale hire, but I do see how he can be useful to us in the player developement department. every decision morey has made I may not have liked it, but could understand the logic behind the move. morey's no dummy. I saw where you said OKC didn't take the best deal on the table in the trade for harden. exactly whose deal was better and why in your opinion? since you love what OKC's gm built then you would have to admit he was a dummy for not taking the best offer on the table for harden. presti is no dummy either I will agree on that point, but to say he didn't take the best deal on the table contradicts our agreed opinion of him doesn't it? put any decision on the table morey has made. lets dicuss it. and anyone who want to jump in i'm game 
I like Morey but the "we need to keep making the same excuses for Morey" cult following needs to end guys, seriously. i judge the success by playoff wins, building your team to get better, not stagnate or decline and prove by wins that he's a success.
I am glad we got Harden and GM for OKC should take a hit but here's the thing, he's a master at drafting and using the one of two way rule of being a success in the NBA. Morey doesn't follow those rules so unless there's an unexpected fall off from better teams (LA for example) his way gets you best worst team or if other better teams has a fluke one year fall off scrape into the postseason. Oh and OKC nobody can argue they are easily top three best team in the NBA and been to a finals. Has Morey since he's been here? No.
What has Morey warranted that people think he's one of the best or void of hard criticism? How many years do people over hype most of our picks / young players when they are traded away or never pan out as good as people make them out to be?
Again I like Morey but he's like Billy Bean, someone who is given way more praise than warranted if you judge the success by winning at least one championship. Oakland, nope; Rockets, nope.
We could have YEARS ago stopped with getting just good enough players to waste years and instead be an OKC type team. Can you draft the wrong player in the lottery? Sure but we don't even get that chance because it seems like Morey would rather be average at best than ruin this reputation and have a bad team for a few years.
Morey also got rid of SVG and RA. KM is the answer? Seriously?
FYI as for OKC that Toronto pick is looking better and better. Even if it turns out not to be they have drafted at an incredible rate. I even loved the PJ3 pick which I thought we should have taken a chance on or Sullinger but Morey thought he outsmarted everyone and drafted a player who had NUMEROUS issues with flying, even turning down the chance to play for Kentucky which says more than enough to not draft him.
If you don't think Morey should take a big part of the blame for the White draft I really don't know what else to say.
