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@  thejohnnygold : (04 March 2015 - 02:25 PM) @Yaoman--I guess it's whatever you want to be worried about. One loss is a 1/2 game move in the standings--not a full point. Head to head is a full point. Further, divisional records come into play for tiebreakers and such. I was never endorsing skipping ATL--why would we do that? Besides, is there really much benefit to moving to the 2 seed? The 4 seed? I forget who it was, but I agree that keeping the 3rd is ideal as it prolongs any chance of seeing GSW the longest.
@  King's G... : (04 March 2015 - 10:34 AM) @cooper we couldnt closed even when Harden played in the first game
@  King's G... : (04 March 2015 - 09:56 AM) nice game were equally good with or without Harden and dwight
@  TTrainW : (04 March 2015 - 03:29 AM) passing was just really sloppy. there were some times where we tried to get it to the post to run a play but the passing just wasn't crisp or on point.
@  Mario Peña : (04 March 2015 - 03:14 AM) Good first 40 minutes and hopefully these rotation players have learned something about crunch time execution and effort.
@  Cooper : (04 March 2015 - 02:51 AM) can't close without harden.
@  TTrainW : (04 March 2015 - 02:37 AM) intensity
@  jorgeaam : (04 March 2015 - 02:34 AM) BENCH JOSH SMITH NOW!!!
@  jorgeaam : (04 March 2015 - 02:30 AM) Ok, let's stop running the offense through Josh Smith now
@  thenit : (04 March 2015 - 01:31 AM) DMo on pace for a quad double
@  TTrainW : (04 March 2015 - 01:25 AM) this game is pretty encouraging
@  jorgeaam : (04 March 2015 - 12:55 AM) I like the ball movement the first unit is showing without Harden, it seems everybody is touching the ball
@  YaoMan : (03 March 2015 - 11:33 PM) Corey is brewing up a storm tonight! And TJ is going to grab 15 boards and block 5 shots!
@  Losthief : (03 March 2015 - 11:31 PM) joke...pfft...it's the expectation lol!
@  Sir Thursday : (03 March 2015 - 11:23 PM) Oh wait, just saw cointurtlemoose already made that joke.
@  Sir Thursday : (03 March 2015 - 11:22 PM) Time for Corey Brewer to reprise his 51 point game, am I right?
@  YaoMan : (03 March 2015 - 09:31 PM) @JG but Portland is right on the Rox tail and a loss to ATL would move them 2.5 from Mem so it would be moot point to just to skip ATL. In this part of the season, every game counts. If Rox lose to ATL but wins against MEM, they're right back where they are now at 1.5 back with possibly Portland tied with them...
@  thejohnnygold : (03 March 2015 - 09:14 PM) That's only because Jeremy Lin is the GOAT
@  King's G... : (03 March 2015 - 06:06 PM) a game without harden - an exciting game... as much as i like harden its kinda boring and predictable that rockets are focusing too much on him... in recent years we did pretty well without harden
@  cointurtlemoose : (03 March 2015 - 05:26 PM) IMO, our chances of a win are prettyyy slim

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Do the Rockets have one of the best benches in the league?


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#1 thejohnnygold

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Posted 05 January 2013 - 10:56 PM

Curious where everyone would rank our bench versus other teams across the league...I feel like, in addition to Harden's Bad-assery, our plethora of players is a major reason we are able to run rough-shod over most teams. Discuss...
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Posted 05 January 2013 - 11:19 PM

I'll start. Currently only Royce White is getting zero minutes....there is a separate thread for that...

Our logjam problem has become a weapon. Regardless of who starts, our depth at the 3 and 4 positions is allowing us to find mismatches in every game. Harden and Lin will do their thing regardless of who we play....Asik as well (although I saw PPat has played well at center when we go small). After that, Mchale has deftly found the right combinations that allow the rockets machine to hit on all cylinders. I think this is part of why every game seems to produce a different "wow" stat line from one of Delfino, Ppat, morris, etc. It may take a quarter or two, but the weakness gets spotted and exploited. Maybe I am attributing more credit than is deserved to mchale, but I'd like to think he is doing these kinds of things.

D-mo and machado are starting to get a few minutes here and there and now we have James Anderson. Maybe he can be another Scola-type steal from San Antonio.

I saw someone mention that toney douglass should be starting and let Lin command the second team. I would like to see that a few times...sounds like a good plan to me. Also, does douglass get most improved player award if he keeps this up???? who knew??? Morey did.

OK, enough spastic rambling about our bench....here are some teams I think also share our good fortune:

LA Clippers
Brooklyn
NY Knicks
Golden State
San Antonio
Denver
Utah
Miami
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Posted 05 January 2013 - 11:34 PM

The Warriors bench really isn't that good. Jack and Landry (one of my all time favorite Rockets) have played well, but other than that they aren't very good. I was at their game that they beat the Clippers the other day and the bench outside of Landry looked absolutely awful.
Boston's bench is pretty good. Chicago's is pretty good as well, especially when Rose comes back. Dallas has played pretty well too. And I like OKC's bench actually. They have some very productive players.
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Posted 06 January 2013 - 12:16 AM

Fair enough....how would you rank the rocket's current bench vs. theirs?
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Posted 06 January 2013 - 03:44 AM

the rockets have a top 7 bench (IMO) I agree the log jam at forward is becoming an asset. not ready to give mc hale credit yet( lets see if he can get them through the season without the meltdown of last year). I believe the overall quality of players 1-12 on our team will be one of the most talented teams in a couple of years just given time. we are an up and coming team because morey appears to have done his homework....well accept for the white situation. his over all eye for talent combined with a little luck(the harden trade) has positioned us on the path to contender. the teams I think have a better bench than us......clippers, denver, the spurs, okc, boston and the bulls, but we may surpass any and all b4 the season is out because we are still young and learning.
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you can only warn a man that the bridge is out.....if he keeps driving he's on his own B)


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Posted 06 January 2013 - 04:08 AM

Toronto's bench is a bit underrated. They were able to go on a tear when Lowry and Bargnani went down precisely because of their strength in depth. Calderon-Ross-Anderson-Davis-Amir Johnson is a pretty sweet second unit.

Also, I quite like Dallas' bench mob. Elton Brand is a pretty good player to have as a backup, Vince Carter is having an excellent season, and I really like what I've seen of Jae Crowder so far. Beaubois and Dahntay Jones aren't terrible, either.

On the other hand, I'm really not a huge fan of the Brooklyn bench. They've got Blatche and maybe Brooks, and who else? The corpses of Stackhouse and Bogans?
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Posted 06 January 2013 - 05:50 AM

HaHa! I love it.
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Posted 06 January 2013 - 04:22 PM

it would be interesting to see our bench players pts/40min reb/40min etc and compare it to other teams. does anyone know where we can get that sort of information?
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Posted 06 January 2013 - 05:02 PM

Sir Thursday, you are right about Brooklyn...I had Evans coming off the bench....turns out he starts...significant difference.

areteejay789 I was just looking at that....our PF's usage rate is about 60% of the top PF's in the league.


Check here:
http://insider.espn....s/_/position/pf

Basically PPat and Morris are splitting the minutes 50/50. Skew that to allow for a normal usage and you would probably addd 50% to either player's stats (Basically assuming they play 36 minutes instead of 24). Sooooo...(knowing there is a margin of error doing this)

PPat: 19.5 ppg, 7.2 rpg, 1 blkpg

Morris: 13.7 ppg, 6.3 rpg, .6 blkpg

I do not think these are unrealistic averages to consider. PPat is looking like he would find himself top 10 with ease if he got the minutes....although, maybe it is the split that allows them each to play with more energy and fresher legs and excel a little more....who knows?
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Posted 06 January 2013 - 06:57 PM

The rockets could use another wing player but still a very solid bench.
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Posted 07 January 2013 - 03:18 PM

The rockets could use another wing player but still a very solid bench.


Perhaps James Anderson?...........Dude was a scoring machine in college......maybe the light switch comes on for him. Royce White aside, the Rockets are on a hot streak of good fortune.....
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