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@  cointurtlemoose : (20 October 2014 - 04:18 AM) I'm liking Kostas' crafty plays.
@  2016Champions : (20 October 2014 - 12:42 AM) Looks like his form improved. A reliable 3pt shot to take away the likes of Ibaka and Aldridge away from the rim could be huge for Harden's drives to the basket, and hopefully also result in more use of the pick and roll between Harden and Dwight.
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@  thenit : (15 October 2014 - 12:35 AM) Asik and Davis looks good together
@  thenit : (14 October 2014 - 01:58 PM) I think we have a shot, but we are still behind Washington and OKC.
@  blakecouey : (14 October 2014 - 04:15 AM) He goes to Longhorn football games regularly, have seen him several times. I think we've got a shot, but wouldn't necessarily say we're a favorite to land KD.
@  Losthief : (14 October 2014 - 12:17 AM) the other thing that helps with durant is he likes texas, still goes/visits to UT Austin most summers iirc.
@  Buckko : (13 October 2014 - 10:46 PM) I really like our chances, because even though D.C. is his hometown, harden is his BFF. Dwight/harden/rockets cast>>>>Wall/beal/wizards cast. Plus no income tax.
@  Cooper : (13 October 2014 - 05:23 PM) I think it helps us and the wiz since both could keep there core and add KD but the cap jumping also helps okc since they are so scared of the tax. they can now keep Jackson and add another guy.
@  thenit : (13 October 2014 - 04:27 AM) Until he returns. So still probably end up top 3
@  thenit : (13 October 2014 - 04:27 AM) I think it makes it less likely because teams will get more money from the tv deal. Also he will miss between 12-15 games and they will be above .500
@  Drew in Abilene : (13 October 2014 - 03:26 AM) This may just be wild fantasy, but with Durant's chances of winning a title at least diminished and the cap jumping significantly when he's a free agent, is it fair to say whatever small chance we have of landing him as a FA is a little better?
@  feelingsuper... : (12 October 2014 - 03:52 PM) Getting to the Finals and winning has become a few levels more difficult for the Thunder.
@  feelingsuper... : (12 October 2014 - 03:37 PM) Kevin Durant out for 6 to 8 weeks, fracture in foot.
@  Buckko : (11 October 2014 - 01:40 AM) No, he IS the worst announcer. That's why road games without him can be the best.
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@  txtdo1411 : (10 October 2014 - 10:40 PM) I am starting to get very excited about our bench. I know it is preseason, but the toughness and grit is inspiring.
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Do the Rockets have one of the best benches in the league?


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#1 thejohnnygold

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Posted 05 January 2013 - 10:56 PM

Curious where everyone would rank our bench versus other teams across the league...I feel like, in addition to Harden's Bad-assery, our plethora of players is a major reason we are able to run rough-shod over most teams. Discuss...
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Posted 05 January 2013 - 11:19 PM

I'll start. Currently only Royce White is getting zero minutes....there is a separate thread for that...

Our logjam problem has become a weapon. Regardless of who starts, our depth at the 3 and 4 positions is allowing us to find mismatches in every game. Harden and Lin will do their thing regardless of who we play....Asik as well (although I saw PPat has played well at center when we go small). After that, Mchale has deftly found the right combinations that allow the rockets machine to hit on all cylinders. I think this is part of why every game seems to produce a different "wow" stat line from one of Delfino, Ppat, morris, etc. It may take a quarter or two, but the weakness gets spotted and exploited. Maybe I am attributing more credit than is deserved to mchale, but I'd like to think he is doing these kinds of things.

D-mo and machado are starting to get a few minutes here and there and now we have James Anderson. Maybe he can be another Scola-type steal from San Antonio.

I saw someone mention that toney douglass should be starting and let Lin command the second team. I would like to see that a few times...sounds like a good plan to me. Also, does douglass get most improved player award if he keeps this up???? who knew??? Morey did.

OK, enough spastic rambling about our bench....here are some teams I think also share our good fortune:

LA Clippers
Brooklyn
NY Knicks
Golden State
San Antonio
Denver
Utah
Miami
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Posted 05 January 2013 - 11:34 PM

The Warriors bench really isn't that good. Jack and Landry (one of my all time favorite Rockets) have played well, but other than that they aren't very good. I was at their game that they beat the Clippers the other day and the bench outside of Landry looked absolutely awful.
Boston's bench is pretty good. Chicago's is pretty good as well, especially when Rose comes back. Dallas has played pretty well too. And I like OKC's bench actually. They have some very productive players.
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Posted 06 January 2013 - 12:16 AM

Fair enough....how would you rank the rocket's current bench vs. theirs?
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Posted 06 January 2013 - 03:44 AM

the rockets have a top 7 bench (IMO) I agree the log jam at forward is becoming an asset. not ready to give mc hale credit yet( lets see if he can get them through the season without the meltdown of last year). I believe the overall quality of players 1-12 on our team will be one of the most talented teams in a couple of years just given time. we are an up and coming team because morey appears to have done his homework....well accept for the white situation. his over all eye for talent combined with a little luck(the harden trade) has positioned us on the path to contender. the teams I think have a better bench than us......clippers, denver, the spurs, okc, boston and the bulls, but we may surpass any and all b4 the season is out because we are still young and learning.
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Posted 06 January 2013 - 04:08 AM

Toronto's bench is a bit underrated. They were able to go on a tear when Lowry and Bargnani went down precisely because of their strength in depth. Calderon-Ross-Anderson-Davis-Amir Johnson is a pretty sweet second unit.

Also, I quite like Dallas' bench mob. Elton Brand is a pretty good player to have as a backup, Vince Carter is having an excellent season, and I really like what I've seen of Jae Crowder so far. Beaubois and Dahntay Jones aren't terrible, either.

On the other hand, I'm really not a huge fan of the Brooklyn bench. They've got Blatche and maybe Brooks, and who else? The corpses of Stackhouse and Bogans?
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Posted 06 January 2013 - 05:50 AM

HaHa! I love it.
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Posted 06 January 2013 - 04:22 PM

it would be interesting to see our bench players pts/40min reb/40min etc and compare it to other teams. does anyone know where we can get that sort of information?
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Posted 06 January 2013 - 05:02 PM

Sir Thursday, you are right about Brooklyn...I had Evans coming off the bench....turns out he starts...significant difference.

areteejay789 I was just looking at that....our PF's usage rate is about 60% of the top PF's in the league.


Check here:
http://insider.espn....s/_/position/pf

Basically PPat and Morris are splitting the minutes 50/50. Skew that to allow for a normal usage and you would probably addd 50% to either player's stats (Basically assuming they play 36 minutes instead of 24). Sooooo...(knowing there is a margin of error doing this)

PPat: 19.5 ppg, 7.2 rpg, 1 blkpg

Morris: 13.7 ppg, 6.3 rpg, .6 blkpg

I do not think these are unrealistic averages to consider. PPat is looking like he would find himself top 10 with ease if he got the minutes....although, maybe it is the split that allows them each to play with more energy and fresher legs and excel a little more....who knows?
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Posted 06 January 2013 - 06:57 PM

The rockets could use another wing player but still a very solid bench.
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Posted 07 January 2013 - 03:18 PM

The rockets could use another wing player but still a very solid bench.


Perhaps James Anderson?...........Dude was a scoring machine in college......maybe the light switch comes on for him. Royce White aside, the Rockets are on a hot streak of good fortune.....
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