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@  txtdo1411 : (05 March 2015 - 06:34 PM) Anybody else think it's funny that Harden gets all this flak for "baiting" officials, yet Westbrook only averages 0.3 less FTA per game and you never hear one word about it? Is it because Westbrook is typically making "wow" plays when he doesn't get fouled? Even if he goes to the line 20 times (like last night), he still has a play or two that just make your jaw drop.
@  txtdo1411 : (05 March 2015 - 06:28 PM) I feel like he's definitely gaining the most publicity at the moment. It just depends on what voters care about. Their record won't be great, and his fg percentages are pretty atrocious, so it depends on how much weight they put into that.
@  majik19 : (05 March 2015 - 03:36 PM) Is anyone else thinking that Westbrook is taking over the MVP conversation...? I know Harden has played ~15 more games... but by the end of the season, that won't be too significant
@  thejohnnygold : (05 March 2015 - 06:13 AM) NBA.com publishes them....they take a little time
@  TTrainW : (05 March 2015 - 03:17 AM) @JG where do you get the ref reports after games?
@  thejohnnygold : (04 March 2015 - 02:25 PM) @Yaoman--I guess it's whatever you want to be worried about. One loss is a 1/2 game move in the standings--not a full point. Head to head is a full point. Further, divisional records come into play for tiebreakers and such. I was never endorsing skipping ATL--why would we do that? Besides, is there really much benefit to moving to the 2 seed? The 4 seed? I forget who it was, but I agree that keeping the 3rd is ideal as it prolongs any chance of seeing GSW the longest.
@  King's G... : (04 March 2015 - 10:34 AM) @cooper we couldnt closed even when Harden played in the first game
@  King's G... : (04 March 2015 - 09:56 AM) nice game were equally good with or without Harden and dwight
@  TTrainW : (04 March 2015 - 03:29 AM) passing was just really sloppy. there were some times where we tried to get it to the post to run a play but the passing just wasn't crisp or on point.
@  Mario Peña : (04 March 2015 - 03:14 AM) Good first 40 minutes and hopefully these rotation players have learned something about crunch time execution and effort.
@  Cooper : (04 March 2015 - 02:51 AM) can't close without harden.
@  TTrainW : (04 March 2015 - 02:37 AM) intensity
@  jorgeaam : (04 March 2015 - 02:34 AM) BENCH JOSH SMITH NOW!!!
@  jorgeaam : (04 March 2015 - 02:30 AM) Ok, let's stop running the offense through Josh Smith now
@  thenit : (04 March 2015 - 01:31 AM) DMo on pace for a quad double
@  TTrainW : (04 March 2015 - 01:25 AM) this game is pretty encouraging
@  jorgeaam : (04 March 2015 - 12:55 AM) I like the ball movement the first unit is showing without Harden, it seems everybody is touching the ball
@  YaoMan : (03 March 2015 - 11:33 PM) Corey is brewing up a storm tonight! And TJ is going to grab 15 boards and block 5 shots!
@  Losthief : (03 March 2015 - 11:31 PM) joke...pfft...it's the expectation lol!
@  Sir Thursday : (03 March 2015 - 11:23 PM) Oh wait, just saw cointurtlemoose already made that joke.

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#1 Red94

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Posted 02 January 2013 - 12:19 PM

New post: New Orleans Hornets @ Houston Rockets on 1/2/13
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#2 hubeijames

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Posted 02 January 2013 - 02:54 PM

This post seems like an absurd attempt to make this match have much more weight and uncertainty than it should. Are you an NBA analyst or are you a marketer for NBA telecasts? Are you a politician's campaign spokesman, trying to manage expectations to make sure every victory is a surprise?

The Hornicans have a lot of upside, but they are not going to turn things around overnight. Rather than trying to paint a painfully unrealistic picture that it's "anyone's game," for lopsided matches like this your analysis should be focused on elements of the game unrelated to who gets the W and L. Heck, you had stuff to talk about: Harden's Kobe-esque defense, Houston's victory margins, etc. That stuff is interesting; don't waste it on hyping NO's chances tonight.
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#3 tombrokeoff

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Posted 02 January 2013 - 03:30 PM

im going to the game tonight. will be the 2nd game i will have seen. the other being one of the two espn games, so im definitely excited, but my tickets were freebies from CSN Houston, so theyre nosebleed. anyway, Go Rockets!
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Posted 02 January 2013 - 04:03 PM

Good point about Harden's defense. The biggest thing I've noticed with him is that he really hasn't been closing out on three-point shooters. He spends most of his time roaming for steals, which leaves him sagging off his man. Often if he's a step out of position when his man gets the ball he doesn't even bother to put a hand up as the rock sails toward the basket. He's already looking to get the rebound or catch the outlet pass.

If he tries that against Eric Gordon, he'll get torched tonight.
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Posted 02 January 2013 - 05:31 PM

This one is going to be interesting to watch, especially the Harden vs Gordon matchup. It's going to be like watching a right handed Harden with Gordon out there, being that they both have the same play styles. Gordon excels in the pick and roll, can draw fouls easily, knows how to drive and finish, and can shoot the 3 quite well. Should be a fun matchup to watch.
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Posted 02 January 2013 - 07:33 PM

All true. I am excited to see how PPat and Marcus Morris fare against "the brow". I expect solid games from them as i believe they have the advantage in that match-up.
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Posted 02 January 2013 - 08:23 PM

To Jeby, you are spot on. I noticed the same things about Harden's defense. Besides not being in position and not contesting diligently, he also does not fight thru screens and hardly ever pick up charges. He does go for blocks near the basket though. Harden is an all star already, to take the next step to super star, he needs to play better defense.
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Posted 03 January 2013 - 12:26 PM

New post: [video] Hornets rookie Anthony Davis on loss to Rockets
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Posted 03 January 2013 - 12:26 PM

New post: Houston Rockets 104, New Orleans Hornets 92: Tough Victories count too.
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Posted 03 January 2013 - 03:33 PM

so .... im glad we won, but that was about as boring of a game to attend as possible. no surprise though, being on a wednesday night against one of the leagues worst teams. had the rockets played like that against anyone but the hornets (or maybe 2 or 3 other teams), they would have lost. way too many missed 3s and what seemed like a lot of offensive rebounds given up. i was getting upset when NO tied it late, but then harden and patterson pretty much took it right back. also, i know its just one game, but i saw absolutely nothing from the unibrow that impressed me aside from a couple of pretty looking, early jumpers.
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Posted 03 January 2013 - 03:36 PM

It feels nice to have a superstar to fall back on at the end of the game. The Rockets would have lost that game in any of the last 3 years.
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Posted 03 January 2013 - 04:10 PM

It feels nice to have a superstar to fall back on at the end of the game. The Rockets would have lost that game in any of the last 3 years.


no kidding and amen!
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#13 Johnny Rocket

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Posted 03 January 2013 - 04:32 PM

Great summary. The Rockets did not shoot particularly well (especially from the three-point line) and still won. As I watched the game, the Rockets seemed like a veteran team, confident they could find a way to win even when not playing their best. I'm very bullish about our playoff hopes.

I think Patterson will continue to come off the bench. Morris seems much, much better as a starter, while Patterson brings immediate energy and helps solidify the defense of the second unit. Whoever is hot can finish the game.
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#14 amacbrooks12

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Posted 03 January 2013 - 06:44 PM

Why didn't Eric Gordon play ?
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#15 phaketrash

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Posted 03 January 2013 - 08:14 PM

@amacbrooks; I think they wanted to rest him and make sure he didn't re-injure himself or something.
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Posted 04 January 2013 - 03:54 AM

amacbrooks is correct. It was a back to back for them. Giving the nature of his injury, they wanted to rest him.
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Posted 04 January 2013 - 04:04 AM

Ditto to Rahat's comment about having a superstar.

For the last three years, it usually took about three above-expected performances from role players to win a game. The chances of any three role players producing over their talent levels every night are slim. Replace one of those guys with someone who puts up 25/5/5 every night, and only two guys have to step up each night to earn a win. To put it another way, James Harden lowers the risk factor in each game.
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