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@  Cooper : (01 February 2015 - 06:18 AM) can't be giving up 28 to Kcp and augstin even if its the second game of the same day.
@  Losthief : (01 February 2015 - 06:18 AM) yeah my heart about fell out of my chest when he was just layin there in the 2nd...i was like oh shit...
@  Mario Peña : (01 February 2015 - 06:14 AM) I am glad Harden played through whatever happened and played like a man on a mission.
@  Losthief : (01 February 2015 - 03:16 AM) good news: Harden came back after scare looking great. Which for me is more impt than beating a east team on the road on the 2nd half of a back to back.
@  Losthief : (01 February 2015 - 03:15 AM) bad news: We came up short on the rally
@  rocketrick : (31 January 2015 - 07:16 PM) MM complaining about the home crowds at Rockets game apparently from his vantage point watching the games on TV is a joke. I'm a season ticket holder, so yes, I take MM's statements as an affront.
@  rocketrick : (31 January 2015 - 07:14 PM) MM claiming Josh Smith has had ONE good night on the offensive end is far from the truth. How about the Memphis game, the Chicago game, the OKC game, the Cleveland game amongst others. He double-doubled last night in Boston.
@  rocketrick : (31 January 2015 - 07:12 PM) Cousins actually did make the All-Star game, is Kobe's replacement.
@  cointurtlemoose : (31 January 2015 - 02:58 AM) Well, the first half of the game looked really good...
@  08huangj : (30 January 2015 - 12:21 PM) Dwight Howard could be out for an extended period of time
@  jorgeaam : (30 January 2015 - 12:44 AM) No Demarcus Cousins or Damian Lillard in the All-Star game, by the way
@  jorgeaam : (30 January 2015 - 12:40 AM) In the non-surprising new of the day, James Harden was selected as an All-Star reserve
@  Alituro : (29 January 2015 - 04:49 PM) If you look in the corners and behind the basket... where the regular ticket buyers sit, it tells a different story.
@  Alituro : (29 January 2015 - 04:48 PM) Our home crowd appearance is misleading as the seats along the sides that you see on TV are corporate seats and usually spoken for each game but the patrons spend their time in the lounges and restaurants
@  Alituro : (29 January 2015 - 04:45 PM) Our crowd certainly came alive when it came time to Ice Chandler's Flagrant FTs
@  Matt Maloney... : (29 January 2015 - 04:44 PM) Congrats to Josh Smith for having a ONE good night on the offensive end. His D and rebounding is always good, don't tell me you don't cringe when he takes a jumper at the top of the key when you have a MVP out there
@  Matt Maloney... : (29 January 2015 - 04:42 PM) If you have league pass, even the Knicks have a better home crowd
@  Matt Maloney... : (29 January 2015 - 04:40 PM) For those of us who no longer live in Houston, lives in LA, and pays the high prices at the Staples Center to watch the Rockets play, and you see the support the Lakers get, yeah I think I have a point
@  rocketrick : (29 January 2015 - 01:41 PM) Same dude also complaining about Josh Smith jump shots. Yesterday evening at the game over at Toyota Center (it's Downtown, let me know if anyone needs directions on how to get there) I saw solid evidence of the 2011 Josh Smith.
@  rocketrick : (29 January 2015 - 01:35 PM) I don't understand people on this site complaining about the Rockets home crowd while the complainers clearly are not buying tickets and going to the game.

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#1 DaDakota

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Posted 24 December 2012 - 04:33 PM

I have watched him in Europe and at RGV, plus a few minutes for the Rockets, and IMO, this guy is a MUST keep at all costs guy.

While he is very young and his defense is fairly week, his skillset on offense is off the charts, especially considering he has 2 huge advantages for a big man.

1. He is left handed
2. He is extremely quick.

You do not get 7 footers that are quick like him, they just don't happen often, and it is a major major advantage, and to top it off the guy is left handed which is also a huge advantage.

Outside of Harden this is the one guy I want the Rockets to make untouchable because his potential is on a world class level.

I do wish they would play him more, but understand them bringing him along slowly.

Keep Dmo, please !

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Posted 25 December 2012 - 05:44 AM

I agree that he looks like he has the tools to be a very good player. On the other hand, I don't think it makes sense to completely ring fence a player on the basis of potential. His trade value should be high, but if a deal comes along that would net a player who is already a star, then I think you take it. Better to have the player who has already proven he can play at a high level over the player who might be able to some day.

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Posted 27 December 2012 - 11:02 PM

I would like to see him getting some meaningful minutes though, he is by far our best post option.

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Posted 28 December 2012 - 07:14 AM

I would like to see him getting some meaningful minutes though, he is by far our best post option.

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I disagree on this - his defence thus far has looked woeful, and players shouldn't be getting on the court consistently if they can't demonstrate that they can put into practice all the relevant defensive principles. Give him spot minutes until he can show something on that end. The guys who are getting the minutes at the moment need the experience just as much as he does, it's not like any of them are veterans after all.

Plus, it's more than a little hyperbolic to call him 'our best post option'. Maybe in 2-3 seasons, but really I would say Patterson (for all his ungainliness) and Smith are more effective post players, for a start. And frankly, I haven't seen anything from Motie that would make me comfortable ranking him above Asik either. And in any case, the majority of action in our system is started from the wing - with the way McHale wants to spread the floor a post game is not particularly necessary from our 4.

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Posted 28 December 2012 - 02:13 PM

If motie can catch the ball he's already a better offensive player than asik. I like motie but We have too many Pfs someone is going to be traded and he might have the most value.
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Posted 28 December 2012 - 05:24 PM

D-mo is our best post up player on offense, followed by Greg Smith, and those two are far and away ahead of anyone else.

The reason you give him minutes over PPat or Morris is those guys will always be 6'8 or 9, and DMo is over 7 feet tall.

You can not teach height - the quicker he gets used to the NBA the better the team will be, IMO.

DMo's ceiling is higher than anyone on the Rockets not named Harden, IMO.

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Posted 28 December 2012 - 06:19 PM

Hmm, does anyone have Synergy access? Because I think this is an argument that could be resolved fairly easily by looking at the PPP stats on postups. I'm inclined to argue that while in theory D-Mo could become our best post player, he has not reached that point yet, but I don't have the stats to back it up.

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Posted 28 December 2012 - 08:06 PM

Sir,

I don't think they would be relevent with such a small sample size....if you watched him play with the RGV, you would have seen tons of post moves and great finishing.

IMO, the Rockets need to identify whom they are looking at building around and get started building, PPat is what he is, a nice 6th man, or low level starter, Morris is a little better rebounder and offensive player, but not a good defender.

And TJones is also in the mix.....RWhite should be dumped, we don't need the drama and he is a headcase to boot.

Either way, having a quick 7 foot, left handed spread 4 would be a major advantage, just look at a young Dirk...and Dmo is way more coordinated than Dirk.......not saying he will get to Dirk's level, that would be due to hard work, but he is a much better athlete than him.

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Posted 28 December 2012 - 11:25 PM

I totally have to agree with DD. Baring a trade for an all-star the Rockets need to see what D-Mo can do. And I think that they will. He has been having reasonable games on D during garbage time. In the Griz game he had 1 steal, 1 block, 2 rebounds, one brutal charge taken and 2 passes tipped. In four minutes.

But the biggest reason to feel optimistic about D-Mo is certainly his offense. Is there a better match out there for the Rockets spread offense? Excepting K. Love of course. Once his game comes together he could be a nightmare match up problem. The guy is quick, skilled, runs the floor with the guards, and is really tall.
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Posted 29 December 2012 - 03:54 AM

Frustrating to watch Morris suck so bad tonight and not see DMo get a shot, I mean a long, quick 7 footer? What is McHale's problem? Aldrich over Smith, No Dmo?

SMDH !

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Posted 29 December 2012 - 08:22 PM

what is mchales problem? maybe trying to win the game? i know you're in love with D-mo but the fact of the matter is the rockets are in 6th place right now so they arent looking to re-tool the line up that much. D-mo also really isnt that great of a defender yet, sure he has gotten some blocks and steals in garbage time, but thats what it is....garbage time against garbage players, so not that impressive. you're acting like the second they put him in he is going to destroy everyone. Morris has been playing great, his shot may be off a little right now but he still goes hard every second he is on the court, getting offensive rebounds and just playing hard. If we were losing i would agree with you, but we arent doing too bad.
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Posted 29 December 2012 - 08:22 PM

and RGV is not the NBA, not even close.
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Posted 30 December 2012 - 05:34 AM

True,
But the truth is we are not contenders this year, and should be identifying our key players and getting them playing time.

I know we have PPat and Morris too, and they need to develop - I guess the logjam is just the problem.

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Posted 30 December 2012 - 05:53 PM

you may not view the team as a contending team but as long as the team is the playoff hunt then the franchise will view them as contenders. we're better than the lakers.
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Posted 30 December 2012 - 07:37 PM

We are better than the Lakers as far as chemstry now, but do you really believe that we will remain above them? I certainly do not.

PPat will never be what Dmo can be, neither will Morris, their athletic short comings will always limit them, IMO.

Either way, I am sure DMo will get a shot at some point.

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Posted 30 December 2012 - 09:13 PM

We are better than the Lakers as far as chemstry now, but do you really believe that we will remain above them? I certainly do not.

PPat will never be what Dmo can be, neither will Morris, their athletic short comings will always limit them, IMO.

Either way, I am sure DMo will get a shot at some point.

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DMo will get his shot eventually, but in the same way that Morris struggled in his first year it is not necessarily the case that his shot will be in his rookie season. There's plenty of competition at his position and at the moment I don't think he's ready to help his team win (certainly shouldn't be taking more than spot minutes from Morris/Patterson). If Parsons goes down at the same time as Patterson/Morris, I think you'll be more likely to see him get some extended time.

I'm glad that you've seen him in the D-League and he's performing well, but didn't Morris show similar dominance when he was down there (including some sweet post moves)? The gulf in quality between the D-League and the NBA is still slightly too much to be able to draw concrete conclusions about the viability of his post-game at this point.

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Posted 25 February 2013 - 01:00 PM

Nice post Op.

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Posted 25 February 2013 - 03:04 PM

I say trade him. He is unless. Just eating up a roster spot when we could have someone like Jermaine O'Neil.

In all seriousness, unless he was the finishing piece in a trade for K-Love over the summer, I don't see D-Mo leaving for awhile.
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Posted 25 February 2013 - 03:58 PM

I've been thoroughly impressed, but trying to stay grounded.  I've seen so many young players show signs and then end up being nothing.

 

He has almost all of the skills you'd want from a big man.  Shooting, dribble-drive, post-up moves.  Hunger/attitude.  In theory, there's no way this guy shouldn't end up becoming an offensive star.  But we'll see.  At least he's getting his chance now.


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Posted 25 February 2013 - 04:54 PM

I've been thoroughly impressed, but trying to stay grounded.  I've seen so many young players show signs and then end up being nothing.

 

He has almost all of the skills you'd want from a big man.  Shooting, dribble-drive, post-up moves.  Hunger/attitude.  In theory, there's no way this guy shouldn't end up becoming an offensive star.  But we'll see.  At least he's getting his chance now.

 

Bargnani 2.0? Let's hope not :D Noone can play that bad defense anyway...


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