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@  feelingsuper... : (22 July 2014 - 02:51 AM) Rockets Summer Leaguers shot 32%, rough ending.
@  Buckko : (20 July 2014 - 07:01 PM) I refer to the writers, as yall due to the multiple of them. We are the loyal readers. I should've word it better.
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@  Buckko : (20 July 2014 - 08:21 AM) Can we get a post about defensive improvement or yall waiting until the defensive assistant gets chosen?
@  Buckko : (20 July 2014 - 07:37 AM) With internal improvement, the defensive minded FA acquisitions, and hopefully a good Defensive minded assistant. The rockets will be closer to a top 5 D than top 10.
@  miketheodio : (20 July 2014 - 05:55 AM) i wonder how much better the starting 5 will be with a wing who actually plays defense
@  rockets best... : (18 July 2014 - 09:26 PM) Kendall Marshall is Ish Smith of a few years ago
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@  slick shoes : (18 July 2014 - 07:06 PM) @YaoMan I got a bit nervous at the Bosh strike out but one: FA isn't over and two: it's a long way until the trade deadline. As the saying goes, "It's not over until the fat lady sings."
@  YaoMan : (18 July 2014 - 07:00 PM) @ slick shoes, great points. Just nervous energy while all productive FAs are starting to get snatched up!
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@  slick shoes : (18 July 2014 - 04:53 PM) We could possibly be just filling slots and/or acquiring trade pieces at this point. Also keep in mind that these contracts are short and cheap which makes them moveable and also keeps us flexible cap wise.
@  YaoMan : (18 July 2014 - 03:52 PM) Adrien, Dorsey and Ish Smith signings (all ex-Rockets) don't impress me in the least...They do not replace any of the production that has left...
@  bladad : (18 July 2014 - 11:38 AM) At this point, would you let go of Wiggins or Kyrie? Lebron could just play point forward for the team...
@  08huangj : (18 July 2014 - 02:36 AM) Reports say that the Rockets just signed Ish Smith?
@  Cooper : (18 July 2014 - 12:45 AM) I don't know if Id trade wiggins for love. Wiggins with lebron would wreck on D. having Irving love and waiters as generally minus defenders and no real rim protector could be a problem.

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#1 Red94

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Posted 21 December 2012 - 05:24 PM

New post: The Emerging Chandler Parsons
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#2 Stephen

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Posted 21 December 2012 - 05:58 PM

Perhaps the biggest "loss" from getting Harden was the possibility Parsons could have become a star. W/the ball in his hands far more,his shown determination to make plays down the stretch,it's entirely possible Parsons could have made a huge leap toward star playerdom this season.

OTOH,anyone would have 100 out of a 100 times traded for a player you KNEW was going to be a star vs a player you HOPED might become one.

More and more I'm becoming convinces Parsons' comparable is not an improved Battier,but a taller Robert Reid. For those who are too young to know/remember Bobby Jo,he was a SF/SG who was never quite a star,but could do almost everything well-just not great. He defended,scored,rebounded,was a good enough passer that he was used as the PG at times,ran the court and was a team leader.
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Posted 22 December 2012 - 10:52 AM

The one thing I miss about last year is Scola throwing oops to Chandler from the post. That was my favorite thing about the Rockets last year.
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Posted 24 December 2012 - 06:41 AM

I have to admit I was not as optimistic about parsons as most in the forum, but lately he has been on a nice run.
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you can only warn a man that the bridge is out.....if he keeps driving he's on his own B)


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Posted 02 January 2013 - 09:31 PM

New post: Chandler Parsons, Power Forward?
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Posted 02 January 2013 - 09:41 PM

I wonder if management might just consider acquiring a star small forward rather than looking into power forward options, and moving Parsons to the '4' full-time. Getting another wing guy might be easier.
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Posted 02 January 2013 - 10:13 PM

Rahat, I think that is an interesting proposition that would open our eyes to more options. Right now it almost feels like tunnel vision at times since the 4 spot seems to be so sorely in need (at least for the time being).

But wouldn't that sort of limit us to small ball? I know that seems to be sort of getting "in" these days in the NBA, and seems conducive to our fast pace...and our numbers are a lot better w/ Parsons at the '4'...yet I still have my hesitations. I guess it depends on what pieces we keep so we'll know what sort of flexibility we may have in our rotations lol.
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Posted 02 January 2013 - 10:27 PM

I've been impressed by McHale's lineup management lately; he's willing to go small or large when the situation calls for it, and it's been working. I think Parsons could spend more time as the second tallest Rocket on the court. As long as he has the size to guard his man, and can contribute the necessary components on offense (scoring, spacing, etc), I don't think anyone even needs to worry about what his native position is.
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Posted 02 January 2013 - 10:35 PM

Is the information gathered from a large enough sample to think it might hold true for a full season? If so, adding the opportunity to find a wing instead of a 4 is very helpful. Not sure who all is out there on the block/in a contract year - but certainly there is someone.
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Posted 02 January 2013 - 10:38 PM

Actually, after I typed that out, I realized that's not a full-time, long-term solution. You won't win big in the NBA playing smallball unless Lebron James is the power forward.

I think Chandler at the 4 is a great option in stretches, as the numbers show, but they will still need a long-term 4.
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Posted 02 January 2013 - 10:57 PM

I agree on the need for a long term 4, even w/ Parsons taking the slot temporarily. But I guess we could wait for one of our young talents developing into that role while Parsons starts at the 4. Depending on who we keep in a potential trade, we might even be able to still have 2Pat coming off the bench/alternate w/ Parsons at the 4 when necessary.

I've heard of having Iggy at the 3 and Parsons at the 4 before, which sounded interesting (he's an FA in 2014 I believe)...though I remain skeptical that a Lin/Harden/Iguodala/Parsons/Asik core can be a true NBA contender.
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Posted 03 January 2013 - 12:32 AM

Not that this means anything but Thorpe has Parsons as the #3 2nd year player. http://insider.espn....nd-year-players (i'll copy and paste the part about Parsons for the non-insiders)

3. Chandler Parsons, Rockets
Parsons gets the award for the most unlikely guy to appear so high on this list. For three years at Florida, he mostly slept-walked through games relative to his talent. But winning player of the year in the SEC as a senior proved to him that he could excel in a league of athletes, and he has not slowed down since. Parsons had an impressive rookie campaign, and he is better basically everywhere on the floor now for the fast-paced Rockets. Parsons often plays like a shutdown wing defender, but he is not yet strong enough to do it nightly. His ability and size allows him to excel often as a power forward and his improved free throw shooting, willingness to move the ball and good ball-handling for someone so tall makes him a real plus on the offensive end. These skills and physical talents combine into a long-time NBA starter.
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Posted 03 January 2013 - 03:07 AM

Looks like we have ourselves one of the best 'Role-Playing Ball Handlers', courtesy of Mr. Alagappan: http://www.sloanspor...nce.com/?p=5431

Given these positions, Rockets could go for the likes of a '3-point Rebounder', 'Scoring Rebounder', or 'Scoring Paint Protector' a la Ersan Ilyasova ('07-'08 Troy Murphy would be nice), Paul Millsap, or our favorite Cousins, respectively. However, I don't mind playing wait and see for what Jones and Motiejunas could bring to the table given minutes like Morris did this year. Then again, we only have a 3ish year window and don't want to mess up championship aspirations this time around.
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Posted 03 January 2013 - 05:00 AM

After watching the Hornets game, with PPatt very effectively finishing the game at the 5 spot, it makes me take these stats on players being more effective at different positions with a game of salt.
As the case in tonight's game, putting Patterson at the 5 and taking Asik out (who it should be noted tied a career high 21-points), was a situational decision--McHale needed someone who could close out on Jason Smith/Ryan Anderson's shooting. The plus-minus for Patterson playing center over those minutes is ridiculously good, but it was dependent on him being able to abuse the matchup.
Putting that in the context of Chandler's 54 as a PF, I would say it is probably as much the result of McHale exploiting the matchup on the floor in any particular game as it is the result of Parsons' individual skillset.
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Posted 03 January 2013 - 05:02 AM

Excuse me, "grain of salt."
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Posted 03 January 2013 - 05:47 AM

Based on all this "speculation" I worked up a little trade scenario....The trade machine is addictive....

http://espn.go.com/n...tradeId=9wkpxch

It's a little crazy, but I like it for every team involved.

This is based on Parsons' ability to play the 3 & the 4 while developing the PF's we keep.
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Posted 03 January 2013 - 02:53 PM

thejohnnygold: Do you really see Boston trading Rondo right now? Really? :D I don´t mind letting PPat and Delfino go, but I´m not Smith´s biggest fan anyway...
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Posted 03 January 2013 - 03:22 PM

We've had 3 years of talking about complicated blockbuster trades. I think we're past that now, it's too soon and this roster is too young to start blowing it up now. There is one glaring weak spot though IMO and it's at PF (go figure) even though it's the most stacked position on our roster. The two regulars at the spot, although with some nice upsides, are challenged when it comes to rebounding. PPat especially, last night versus NO, although getting 10, for once, he still missed his box outs more than he made them and it resulted in a sick amount of offensive rebounds for NO. A lot of people here will defend PPat by saying we can't stand to lose his positional defense expertise. But, if you spend 24 seconds forcing a team to take a bad shot, but don't have the ability to secure the rebound from said bad shot, then the good D was all for naught. Rebounding is all a matter of intuition (ask Dennis Rodman) and either you have it or you don't, it's tough to teach. So many times I see a shot go up and Ppat stands there feet planted watching the shot through the arc slack-jawed like some sort of fan.

Parsons has that intuition. Morris may have it but the sample size is still a little small. Someone posted a link to a blog a few weeks backed highlighting Greg Smith's production and on the same page had a list of players that have the most negative impact on their teams. Patterson was on the list. I wonder if the signing of James Anderson is an omen of things to come at the PF position. Anderson being able to play either wing spot and has the potential to be a starter in this league. D-Mo is an excellent offensive player too, and from what I've seen can grab some rebounds, I'd like to see him getting some burn. He's also a much better shooter than either Morris or Patterson. Going big with D-mo and Asik holding down the post will be fun to watch one day.
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Posted 03 January 2013 - 03:25 PM

thejohnnygold: Do you really see Boston trading Rondo right now? Really? :D I don´t mind letting PPat and Delfino go, but I´m not Smith´s biggest fan anyway...


I do. He is a volatile player and presence in the organization. I think If you can turn him into a near equally efffective PG AND a stud center you do it. I think Kevin Garnett is one of the few people in this league that Cousins would respect and listen to. It gives Boston a huge leg up in the East.

I see your point and I do agree that if anyone kills this deal it's Boston. But it's still the NBA and rule #1 for them is you can't coach size. Look at every year's draft and you will see they still think this way.
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Posted 03 January 2013 - 03:34 PM

Alituro,

Don't get me wrong....I like our team and would like to see them stay together, grow, and succeed. I was just having a bit of fun with the trade machine in response to a post I read about Parsons' success at the 4 and updating the 3 position instead. In regards to that, I like the trade and really, we are only giving up T. Jones' potential, C. Delfino, and PPat which we all seem to agree is not the best of the bunch--just a solid reserve. It may be a blockbuster trade for the other teams, but for us I think it's just a little refining...or a finishing touch. We give up the least in the deal.
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