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@  Losthief : (01 March 2015 - 10:30 AM) he was on the broadcast last night. He's on the treadmill now (recent development up from the bike and water). He's hoping to return sometime in March, but its not a set in stone thing.
@  TTrainW : (01 March 2015 - 07:55 AM) i think i read somewhere about how he's making "slow but steady" ... dunno anything concrete tho. well he wont be there vs the cavs
@  08huangj : (01 March 2015 - 02:12 AM) Why is there no reports on Dwight Howard's recovery. Isn't the 4-6 or 6-8 weeks past. Well, it's been more than a month...
@  Losthief : (28 February 2015 - 06:31 AM) gutty win by the good guys tonight, big week coming up needed this! The Basketball Jones!
@  jorgeaam : (28 February 2015 - 03:53 AM) T Jones is a beast
@  Dan G : (28 February 2015 - 03:45 AM) Indeed and we got to 40 wins before 20 losses so Phil Jackson would be pleased.
@  cointurtlemoose : (28 February 2015 - 03:36 AM) TJOOOONNNEEESSSSSSS
@  thejohnnygold : (27 February 2015 - 04:31 PM) @losthief--I know exactly what it is--my ex-wife is English. How about we just don't cuss in the shoutbox, on the front page of an ESPN affiliated site, when we know it's against the rules? It's in the terms of use and it's not a game. If you need to cuss in your posts every other Rockets' forum allows that and all sorts of other behavior--go there to get it out of your system. The editing I do is a courtesy--the reality is warnings and bans are prescribed for violations. Sorry for the harshness, but I want the point to be clear for everyone.

Also, if you don't think UK English is a different language go over there and spend some time talking to folks--and not the posh ones with the stiff upper lips.
@  Losthief : (27 February 2015 - 01:26 AM) to be clear what i used jg was an english word...but i get you, didn't mean it as a curse word...thats urban slangs fault, its a middle english word.
@  cointurtlemoose : (26 February 2015 - 09:37 PM) "James Harden didn't practice today. Coach Kevin McHale told reporters Harden's right ankle was swollen and sore. He got treatment." - via Calvin Watkins
@  YaoMan : (26 February 2015 - 08:08 PM) @ jorgearm, Prigioni played well in his time on the floor. He could prove very helpful for the stretch run
@  YaoMan : (26 February 2015 - 08:07 PM) @ Incubus, give it time. KJ may see some time later but he's too fresh and needs practice with the team and I am still under the impression that this is a trade asset as well
@  YaoMan : (26 February 2015 - 08:06 PM) Does anyone know the condition of the Harden's ankle?
@  Incubus2803 : (26 February 2015 - 06:57 PM) Kj McDaniels was never going to play for this team. Morey saw someone that was shining (presumably) in his defensive metrics, with athleticism bubbling out of him, and trusted that we could teach him to shoot. Remember the part about Smoove not leaving the gym till he sank 200 3s? Yea...
@  thejohnnygold : (26 February 2015 - 05:36 PM) Cursing in another language is still cursing. Sorry. By the way, this is not a game--let's not start that, please.
@  Losthief : (26 February 2015 - 06:08 AM) i kno...my heart can't take the *looks thru thesaurus* agony and the ecstasy of it all (does that work jg?)
@  cointurtlemoose : (26 February 2015 - 03:26 AM) Harden's gotta stop scaring me by having these close calls......
@  jorgeaam : (26 February 2015 - 03:09 AM) I'm still wondering where KJ McDaniels is at
@  jorgeaam : (26 February 2015 - 03:03 AM) Well, it seems Prigioni actually enjoys playing with a real team for a change.
@  jorgeaam : (26 February 2015 - 03:02 AM) Same question I get when I see Tyson Chandler and Dallas

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Recap: Dallas Mavericks 116, Houston Rockets 109


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#1 Red94

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Posted 09 December 2012 - 04:51 AM

New post: Recap: Dallas Mavericks 116, Houston Rockets 109
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#2 cdhthegreat

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Posted 09 December 2012 - 05:12 AM

The coaching tonight was pathetic. 45 minutes for harden with a rolled ankle. COLE ALDRICH. Patterson at the 5. No Greg Smith.
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Posted 09 December 2012 - 03:14 PM

Hopefully, McHale was just getting back in the swing of coaching things in this game and the poor use of the bench won't continue. But I'm at a loss to understand what Douglas, Delfino and Aldrich did in this game to deserve 82 minutes of playing time to the exclusion of almost everyone else on the bench.
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Posted 09 December 2012 - 05:38 PM

Is it too soon to ask if we should oust McHale? I understand it was his first night back, after nearly a month during a very emotional/stressed time, but this isn't the first time we've seen ineffective use of the bench, ugly rotations, and poor execution. What kind of coaches are out there that could be beneficial to growing our youth and instilling confidence/work ethic into them more so than McHale?
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Posted 09 December 2012 - 05:41 PM

I'm surprised McHale would make such drastic changes to the rotation in his first game back.
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Posted 09 December 2012 - 07:13 PM

I was curious about this. I wasn't at nor did I watch the game. Why did he make such drastic changes his first game back?
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Posted 09 December 2012 - 08:08 PM

Drastic changes? Not Really.
Lin 19:59 against LA,26:03 against SA then 18:05 against Dallas.
But really,it was a return to McHale's rotation at beginning of yr,only using Douglas,Delfino and a third big(at beginning of yr it was Morris out of lack of anyone else).
He went w/Smith,who got in foul trouble,replaced him w/Aldrich who was reasonably effective.
He went small because that's what Dallas did,Asik isn't someone who can punish other teams posting up and Kaman was eating his lunch on jumpers.
He didn't rest Harden in First Half because he was afraid the ankle would tighten as it did after Half-Time.(A couple of times cameras caught McHale asking Harden how he was feeling and Harden saying he was OK to play.)

We constantly hear how coaches see things in practices and being around the team that we as fans don't and that explains what often appears to be puzzling player decisions.
Against Dallas we may have seen indirect confirmation of that cliche.
For the past few weeks McHale has been away from the team,not attending practices,his only real exposure to the team watching them on TV and phone conversations w/Sampson.
And the previous three games were the first ones McHale could devote his full attention to.
And what would McHale have seen watching the games?
Marcus Morris,0-2FGA,0-2FTA,2 rebounds...0-5FGA,1-2FTA,5 rebounds...1-5FGA,3 rebounds. These bad numbers don't even begin to describe the utter futility of Morris trying to create something.
Lin had a good game against Utah then went 4-17 in next two games including 0-4 from 3pt land.
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Posted 09 December 2012 - 08:27 PM

To be honest,looking at the schedule I thought the Rockets would be in the midst of a 6 game losing streak and that they'd be buried in December,before making a late run.

Instead the Rockets are 2-3 so far out of the @OKC,Utah,Lakers,@SA,Dallas,SA stretch. They have16 games in Dec(4 sets of back-to-back,a 4 game-in-5-night,3 rd stretch starting Christmas Day).
To date they've played 13 games against Play-Off teams from last yr out of their 19 games.
I was hoping they'd have 7-8 wins by now,9 far exceeds my expectations.
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#9 Mario Peña

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Posted 09 December 2012 - 08:44 PM

I knew about the back to backs and all that but thanks for a real breakdown with regards to playing time and who's hot and who's not. I get tired of Rockets fans talking about replacing McHale as a knee jerk reaction to a game. It's almost as if watching the games is not enough, fans have to pretend like they're GM's. I get tired of it. Anyway, I don't want to get completely negative so thanks Stephen for presenting facts. Let's enjoy what this team is doing, overachieving.
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Posted 09 December 2012 - 09:00 PM

The reason McHale pulled Asik is simple: he had 4 TOs in 20 minutes. That's not acceptable, no matter how good your rebounding.

I don't know why, though, he sat Lin so much over Douglas. Douglas played fine, but so was Lin.

In terms of where the Rockets are at in general, this is what rebuilding looks like: wildly inconsistent performances. You gotta role with it or it will drive you crazy! I agree with Stephen that 9 wins are pretty good at this point.
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Posted 09 December 2012 - 10:57 PM

I was curious about this. I wasn't at nor did I watch the game. Why did he make such drastic changes his first game back?


The Rockets were getting killed in the first quarter, and it was the insertion of the small ball lineup that got them back in the game in the second. McHale then proceeded to continue playing a small lineup for the rest of the game. I'm not sure that was the best decision because it meant that Delfino, Parsons and Harden had to play the majority of the game and were tired down the stretch, but I can kind of understand why he did it.

In addition, the coaching staff seemed to make a (reasonable, based on what I saw) decision that Toney Douglas was the best man to guard OJ Mayo after he torched everyone else they put on him in the first quarter. That's why he saw so much floor time in this game. And despite Mayo's gaudy statline I thought he did a reasonable job (although there was a glaring exception to that statement late in the fourth quarter where he got wiped out on a screen and allowed Mayo to bury a 3 to put the Mavericks up 5 with not much time left).

Of course, the upshot of that was that Lin didn't see much playing time. There was a section in the third quarter where he went with a double PG lineup with both Lin and Douglas, and it didn't look too bad. Douglas has picked up his level quite considerably over the abject awfulness of the first few games and Lin is starting to make some shots from the corners, which just about turns them into a functional pairing.

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Posted 10 December 2012 - 12:16 AM

I suppose I'm just used to seeing coaches who have set rotations and only make changes if someone's in foul trouble or injured. Players have to know how to play with each other and if you're mixing up the rotations a lot, it can lead to a lot of turnovers.
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#13 UncleCaveman

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Posted 10 December 2012 - 12:31 AM

I hated some of the lineups that McHale put out there, especially in the 4th. There were extended minutes with Patterson as the sole "big" and Parsons apparently playing the 4 with Toney Douglas and Jeremy Lin on the court together. Is the team better with McHale? It doesn't look like it to me.
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Posted 11 December 2012 - 06:17 PM

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Posted 11 December 2012 - 06:18 PM

OOPS...sorry guys. should be
http://jeremylintell...t-a-great-team/
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