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@  Cooper : (02 July 2015 - 08:58 PM) They're going big for Aldridge, if they miss, that trade and 4yrs for TC won't look real good.
@  thejohnnygold : (02 July 2015 - 08:38 PM) It's entirely possible the Rockets will simply return the same squad as last season and be better off for it
@  thejohnnygold : (02 July 2015 - 08:37 PM) Suns just pissed off Markieff Morris by trading away his brother. Remember, they agreed to sign on the cheap in order to stay together.
@  Mario Peña : (02 July 2015 - 08:19 PM) I'm definitely enjoying the Lakers fall as well.
@  Cooper : (02 July 2015 - 07:56 PM) Seeing big FA turn down LA/NY for Milwaukee and potentially Phx/San is an unexpected but enjoyable twist.
@  Mario Peña : (02 July 2015 - 07:29 PM) I gotta admit I'm enjoying watching the Blazers implode and their fans losing it.
@  majik19 : (02 July 2015 - 02:40 PM) also, just wanted to point out this insanity: With Draymond Green's reported signing, Steph Curry becomes the 6th-highest paid Warriors player (Thompson, Lee, Bogut, Iguodala, Green)
@  majik19 : (02 July 2015 - 02:40 PM) Contracts are going to rise proportionally. They'll have to readjust the MLE and biannual with the next negotiation, and max contracts may require adjustment as well. But basically, the MLE is ~5 mil with a ~60 mil cap, so expect it to be ~8.3 mil with a 100 mil cap. Max players will easily make 30 mil+ per year.
@  jorgeaam : (02 July 2015 - 04:50 AM) Well, Asik just signed a 5 year $58 million contract with the Pelicans, makes me wonder how much the contracts are going to rise with the new cap
@  rockets best... : (02 July 2015 - 03:05 AM) Llull not coming is good news to me
@  cointurtlemoose : (02 July 2015 - 01:33 AM) Welp... There is some consolation for us from Llull not coming, and that is that the Mavs are kind of imploding so far in free agency
@  majik19 : (01 July 2015 - 09:48 PM) the MLE isn't as valuable this year, unfortunately, because of the rising cap. With the deals being handed out, surprised Beverly hasn't gotten an offer yet...
@  Fury : (01 July 2015 - 09:29 PM) Keep in mind, the MLE is still in play if it isn't used on Llull.
@  txtdo1411 : (01 July 2015 - 09:21 PM) last year* not next year
@  txtdo1411 : (01 July 2015 - 09:21 PM) Darn Darn Darn. I didn't have huge hopes for him, but he has to be an upgrade over what we finished with next year. Oh well just have to make the best of it.
@  Fury : (01 July 2015 - 09:18 PM) WOJ BOMB: Guard Sergio Llull has decided against joining the Rockets in the NBA and will stay with Real Madrid, league source tells Yahoo Sports.
@  Losthief : (01 July 2015 - 05:41 PM) U mean the whole trust parsons not to sign something, cause bev can still go do that we only offered the qualifying meaning we get a chance to match if he does (3 days).
@  txtdo1411 : (01 July 2015 - 05:41 PM) Is it possible that our division next year will be even BETTER than it was last season?! Depending on what the Mavs do, it could very well be.
@  majik19 : (01 July 2015 - 02:14 PM) At those deals, I would certainly take both. Bev will almost certainly get a higher offer that we can then match or not. Not making the Parsons mistake again.
@  Losthief : (01 July 2015 - 07:36 AM) keep there RFA status, and for bev means we can sign him w/ bird rights later. Good moves by the rockets

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#1 Sir Thursday

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Posted 27 November 2012 - 02:29 AM

Just checked the scores before going to bed and was rubbing my eyes...it said OKC 64, Charlotte 24! That has got to be the biggest beatdown I've ever seen in a half of NBA basketball. I thought the Bobcats were much improved when I watched them for a little bit earlier in the season, but that scoreline is not pretty. Have they got some injuries or something?

(By the way, there doesn't really seem to be a good place for generic rest-of-the-NBA chat, so I just started a new thread here. Dunno if it's better to just create new ones whenever something momentous happens or have everything in one place).


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#2 Rahat Huq

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Posted 27 November 2012 - 02:59 AM

when i saw this thread title, i thought we had just traded for kevin love or something.
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Posted 27 November 2012 - 03:02 AM

when i saw this thread title, i thought we had just traded for kevin love or something.


Heh, sorry to get your hopes up. I doubt I'd be the first to post in a situation like that, because I'm not on Twitter (which seems to be where news breaks these days). But if I did, rest assured there would be a couple more capital letters ;).

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#4 Rahat Huq

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Posted 27 November 2012 - 03:49 AM

but yes, this would be the place for NBA talk. would like to get some more of that in.
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Posted 27 November 2012 - 03:59 AM

Yea I saw that too. With the OKC bench playing the rest of the way, Charlotte outscored their first half of 24 with 26 4th quarter points lol. As Barkley would say, "Michael Jordan rollin over in his grave".
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Posted 27 November 2012 - 03:16 PM

i know theres a fantasy bball thread, but since you speak of this game, yeah kemba was a complete negative for me in this one. i would have been better off with nobody playing the point.
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Posted 27 November 2012 - 03:53 PM

Pretty funny about Barkley saying that Jordan would be rolling over in his grave. I wish I had TNT right now. That score is crazy and I can only imagine how painful it would be to watch film as a Charlotte player or to have been watching the game as a Bobcats fan. It was 79 to 25 in the third, wow!
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Posted 27 November 2012 - 06:29 PM

I added a note in the title. I guess we'll just toss all NBA talk into here for now until there's enough for separate threads.

So who's the biggest surprise and biggest disappointment so far this year?
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Posted 28 November 2012 - 06:58 AM

i would say the 2 biggest suprises are charlotte and milwauke.i figured ellis and jennings would be a disaster together. charlotte's been fun to watch but think they will lose a lot more games.

its good to see the warriors doing well, fun team to watch and ive always loved david lee.

biggest dissapointment is definitely the lakers and minnesota(they cant ever catch a break)
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Posted 28 November 2012 - 07:00 AM

also. kevin love 23 and 24 tonight. jesus
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Posted 28 November 2012 - 01:19 PM

I agree with sircharles on both surprises. Really, who would have thought Charlotte would win these many games so far? And also Milwaukee....Ellis-Jennings seemed like Ellis-Curry 2.0, but he is playing for a defensive minded team right now, so his lack of defense is covered by the rest of the team.

The biggest disappointment? The Lakers of course, but I would have to add Indiana, maybe Chicago and I apparently, Toronto is living what we all thought we would be living right now: lots of close losses....Minnesota is cursed, and so is Golden State, Portland appears to be getting off it slowly
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#12 Rahat Huq

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Posted 28 November 2012 - 01:36 PM

I also thought Ellis-Jennings was going to be a complete disaster.
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Posted 30 November 2012 - 12:57 AM

Biggest surprise is definitely the bobcats. Biggest upset is Boston. I heard a lot of people saying that the Celts would have a great year, and I didn't buy it(I don't believe theyre any better than last year, that's how much value I put in Ray Allen). 8-7 isn't awful, but for a team thought to be a 2-3 seed in the east, it's certainly an upset. An upset or not, I'm thrilled-I hate Boston.
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Posted 30 November 2012 - 11:16 AM

Biggest surprise is definitely the bobcats. Biggest upset is Boston. I heard a lot of people saying that the Celts would have a great year, and I didn't buy it(I don't believe theyre any better than last year, that's how much value I put in Ray Allen). 8-7 isn't awful, but for a team thought to be a 2-3 seed in the east, it's certainly an upset. An upset or not, I'm thrilled-I hate Boston.


I feel like LA is probably a slightly bigger upset that Boston at this point. Boston's big 3 of the last few seasons has turned into an 'aging 2' and there's only one up-and-comer on the team that can fill their shoes (Rondo - not sold on Jeff Green yet). They've brought in a few new guys who in the long term are probably going to work together pretty well, but given the fundamentally different style your team needs to play to accomodate a Jason Terry versus a Ray Allen I think it's to be expected that there will be some growing pains. I still expect that they will make the playoffs, but perhaps not as a high seed. And fundamentally, I don't think it's a huge issue for them if they're #2 or #6 - one thing they do have is a lot of time to sort things out and settle on a system that works, and once that happens they'll be a very difficult opponent for whoever they face.

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Posted 30 November 2012 - 03:15 PM

Disappointment: LAKERS...not that I am actually disappointed they are losing. I am disappointed that I can no longer root for Steve Nash in good conscience.

Surprises: Golden State...and maybe Utah. Utah's bigs can play, but mo williams, randy foye and gordon heyward as the main guards???
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Posted 30 November 2012 - 03:40 PM

I'm in agreement with most comments, but must add Dallas to the disappointment list... The team is unrecognizable anymore, and Dirk returning won't fix it. It is hard to believe they have fallen so far.
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Posted 30 November 2012 - 06:25 PM

I think Boston probably should have blown it up this year and not have brought back Garnett/Bass added Jason terry etc... They will make the playoffs but only as a mid-low seed and might even be a first round out.
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Posted 30 November 2012 - 10:22 PM

i figured courtney lee would have a much bigger role this year in boston. they should be much better when avery bradley returns
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Posted 01 December 2012 - 12:26 AM

I feel like LA is probably a slightly bigger upset that Boston at this point. Boston's big 3 of the last few seasons has turned into an 'aging 2' and there's only one up-and-comer on the team that can fill their shoes (Rondo - not sold on Jeff Green yet). They've brought in a few new guys who in the long term are probably going to work together pretty well, but given the fundamentally different style your team needs to play to accomodate a Jason Terry versus a Ray Allen I think it's to be expected that there will be some growing pains. I still expect that they will make the playoffs, but perhaps not as a high seed. And fundamentally, I don't think it's a huge issue for them if they're #2 or #6 - one thing they do have is a lot of time to sort things out and settle on a system that works, and once that happens they'll be a very difficult opponent for whoever they face.

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I don't see the Lakers as the "biggest" disappointment so far because of the magnitude of the changes they incurred over the off-season. Between the two teams(Boston and LAL) you have the loss of Ray Allen, gains of Jason Terry and Courtney Lee(which I don't see as huge moves of any sort), and you have the addition of Dwight Howard and Steve Nash with losses of Andrew Bynum and Ramon Sessions(huge changes). Throw in that the Lakers ditched Mike Brown, and INTENTIONALLY hired Mike D'Antoni instead of PHIL "THIRTEEN RINGS" JACKSON, what could really be expected of them at this stage? If someone was thinking the Lakers we're going to be 13-2 after fifteen games(in reality theyre 7-8), they were delirious.
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