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@  thejohnnygold : (27 February 2015 - 04:31 PM) @losthief--I know exactly what it is--my ex-wife is English. How about we just don't cuss in the shoutbox, on the front page of an ESPN affiliated site, when we know it's against the rules? It's in the terms of use and it's not a game. If you need to cuss in your posts every other Rockets' forum allows that and all sorts of other behavior--go there to get it out of your system. The editing I do is a courtesy--the reality is warnings and bans are prescribed for violations. Sorry for the harshness, but I want the point to be clear for everyone.

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@  Losthief : (27 February 2015 - 01:26 AM) to be clear what i used jg was an english word...but i get you, didn't mean it as a curse word...thats urban slangs fault, its a middle english word.
@  cointurtlemoose : (26 February 2015 - 09:37 PM) "James Harden didn't practice today. Coach Kevin McHale told reporters Harden's right ankle was swollen and sore. He got treatment." - via Calvin Watkins
@  YaoMan : (26 February 2015 - 08:08 PM) @ jorgearm, Prigioni played well in his time on the floor. He could prove very helpful for the stretch run
@  YaoMan : (26 February 2015 - 08:07 PM) @ Incubus, give it time. KJ may see some time later but he's too fresh and needs practice with the team and I am still under the impression that this is a trade asset as well
@  YaoMan : (26 February 2015 - 08:06 PM) Does anyone know the condition of the Harden's ankle?
@  Incubus2803 : (26 February 2015 - 06:57 PM) Kj McDaniels was never going to play for this team. Morey saw someone that was shining (presumably) in his defensive metrics, with athleticism bubbling out of him, and trusted that we could teach him to shoot. Remember the part about Smoove not leaving the gym till he sank 200 3s? Yea...
@  thejohnnygold : (26 February 2015 - 05:36 PM) Cursing in another language is still cursing. Sorry. By the way, this is not a game--let's not start that, please.
@  Losthief : (26 February 2015 - 06:08 AM) i kno...my heart can't take the *looks thru thesaurus* agony and the ecstasy of it all (does that work jg?)
@  cointurtlemoose : (26 February 2015 - 03:26 AM) Harden's gotta stop scaring me by having these close calls......
@  jorgeaam : (26 February 2015 - 03:09 AM) I'm still wondering where KJ McDaniels is at
@  jorgeaam : (26 February 2015 - 03:03 AM) Well, it seems Prigioni actually enjoys playing with a real team for a change.
@  jorgeaam : (26 February 2015 - 03:02 AM) Same question I get when I see Tyson Chandler and Dallas
@  Sir Thursday : (26 February 2015 - 02:19 AM) So the question is: why don't the Clippers just throw an alley-oop to Jordan every time? The Rockets only seem to be able to stop it about one time in three...
@  Cooper : (26 February 2015 - 01:58 AM) crawford going off and harden doing nothing. Surprised they're still in the game
@  jorgeaam : (26 February 2015 - 01:43 AM) T Jones hustling
@  Mario Peña : (25 February 2015 - 05:28 AM) That's unfortunate he is going down again.
@  jorgeaam : (25 February 2015 - 03:50 AM) Guys, D Rose is out for the year again
@  cointurtlemoose : (24 February 2015 - 08:06 PM) I like him off the bench, and I like him and Smith together. Depends on the matchup though too
@  YaoMan : (24 February 2015 - 04:10 PM) Should T Jone start or should he come off the bench for some potent punch? I'm conflicted on this...

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Goran Dragic vs. Jeremy Lin: Did the Houston Rockets pick the wrong guy?


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#1 Red94

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 05:16 PM

New post: Goran Dragic vs. Jeremy Lin: Did the Houston Rockets pick the wrong guy?
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Posted 19 November 2012 - 05:36 PM

losing dragic was the move i was most upset about in the offseason as i have expressed on here a number of times. i was happy they landed lin after losing goran, but would have always preferred goran.
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Posted 19 November 2012 - 05:38 PM

I never viewed the decision to sign Jeremy Lin as one about getting the best point guard available. Both Lowry and Dragic > Lin. I just figured that Morey didn't see any point in signing Dragic to a long term contract (and inhibit any cap/spending flexibility) when the team won't be relevant for the next couple of years. Lin is serviceable, but I saw signing him as a move to bring some excitement to the fan base. But guessing by the low turnout at the Toyota Center, it's not working.
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Posted 19 November 2012 - 05:39 PM

Good question.
The ultimate answer is what is Lin's ceiling going to be.
Because Goran has pretty much reached his-and it's that of solid starting PG.
But the real Goran isn't exactly the dead-eye shooter the theoretical Goran is. He shot .337 last yr from 3 and he's shooting .340 this yr.(Weird how our perceptions go,Parsons shot the same % from 3pt land last yr as Dragic,yet Parsons was considered a bad 3pt shooter while Dragic was considered a good one.)

As Lin learns to play more under control,he looks to be a better pure PG,whose shot will come and go. In the long run,better for the Rockets as they integrate Harden into a team offense instead of having Harden being the offense.

As to the decision,one over other...
W/Dragic,the Rockets would have been committed to him for four yrs,for better or for worse.
W/Lin,the team is realistically committed for two yrs. After all,the team can stretch buy-out Lin's last yr and take a Cap hit of just $2.6mil/yr for three yrs.
And Lin allowed Les to agree to a rebuild,which paid off in not giving away everything for Howard or Bynum,which in turn allowed the Harden trade.
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Posted 19 November 2012 - 06:00 PM

I only saw the title and don't even have to read the rest of the article. The answer is: absolutely!
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Posted 19 November 2012 - 06:33 PM

Goran is probably going to be the better PG this year. Lin gives you a lot of other stuff, but Goran's ability to hit spot up threes makes him more valuable at the moment. Having said that, if Lin can get to the mid .300s on his threes and develop a floater I have to agree his ceiling is higher. He rebounds, plays passing lanes, and is a willing passer. Those are all great traits in a point guard, but until he can shoot he is just Rafer Alston 2.0.
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Posted 19 November 2012 - 07:47 PM

Is there anyone can help to trade JLin out. This will help a lot Jlin's fans out
Thanks in advanced.
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Posted 19 November 2012 - 08:50 PM

No team would take on Lin's contract after what we've seen thus far so a trade is out of the question. Houston showed a lot of faith in Lin and now it's time for him to step up his game. I'm a huge Lin fan so I get annoyed when Sampson takes him out of the game but I don't blame Sampson because PT is based on performance. Lin has to improve his shooting % and play better defense or Sampson is going to keep riding Douglas.
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Posted 19 November 2012 - 08:56 PM

I dont think its even close to how much better Dragic is than Lin but its hard to complain too much because Morey would have had to look into the future to see the Harden trade and I think Lin was more Les's idea anyway.
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Posted 19 November 2012 - 09:30 PM

Hindsight and stirring the emotion of fans are the favorite of bloggers. Please take look the conference standing of Suns. Both of Lin and Dragic are first time starters. High expectation is not fair for both of them. Players learn and improve through experiences. Rockets, Suns, Raptors are not top contenders, people.
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Posted 19 November 2012 - 09:48 PM

From a basketball standpoint, this argument of Gogi over Lin makes a lot of sense. Their contracts are similar (on an annual basis but Dragic's contract is for an extra year) so the outflows are comparable. The difference lies in the media coverage and merchandise revenue that Lin brings. So far Rockets' fans haven't caught on and also haven't been attending games but I believe that's more attributed to the issues with the new Comcast tv contract. As a whole, most of the city has tuned off the Rockets because of not getting the games and/or the success and local media dominance of the Houston Texans. If/when Comcast figures everything out and starts giving Houstonians what they want things will begin to change ESPECIALLY if this team is contending toward the end of the season. If Morey can make a splash in the offseason or later this season like he's openly said he wants to then this team will be better and fans will buy in. Bottom line is that fans need to be able to watch the games in order for the Rockets to benefit from Jeremy Lin's best asset (his marketability).
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Posted 19 November 2012 - 11:10 PM

If given the opportunity again, I'd go with Goran. If Lin can get his shot going, which I have confidence that he can, then it becomes a more complicated decision. If Lin can begin knocking down the deep shots it will help stretch the floor and open up some lanes for Harden to abuse. I liked Goran, and was furious that we let him leave, but as Stephen commented-with Goran we were stuck for several years regardless of his play, Lin gives us options.

As stated in the post above me, Lin's marketability has suffered because of Comcast and hopefully the Rockets realize that and push for a deal. Home-court advantage isn't really effective if half your seats are empty and half of what are filled are opposing team fans.
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Posted 20 November 2012 - 06:45 AM

dragic is better now and will be better in the future than lin can ever hope to be. looking back in hindsight it's easy to say that. at the time dragic wanted a 5 year deal starting at 8 mil. the real question is do you like dragic better than harden, because if we had sign dragic the okc trade would not have been available. why do you ask? each team under the new cba can only have 1 player signed for 5 years. all other players must be on deals of 4 years or less. what made us atractive to harden is we could offer the extra year in the deal that okc could not (durant is their 5 year player), netting him an extra 20 mil dollars. if we could only sign harden to a 4 year deal then there would have only been a 5 mil dollar difference between the offer okc had on the table and what we would have been able to offer which probably means harden stays in okc. I think harden is the better deal. lin was only signed as damage control. we are in a win-win situation with lin. if he pans out great we have our PG of the future, if not his contract only has 2 years after this one. lin was signed as a PR move to generate news in what was otherwise thought to be a down year.
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you can only warn a man that the bridge is out.....if he keeps driving he's on his own B)


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Posted 20 November 2012 - 07:42 AM

Hey Dragic Lovers, you should read this http://www.slamonlin...ole-in-phoenix/
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Posted 20 November 2012 - 12:21 PM

dragic is better now and will be better in the future than lin can ever hope to be. looking back in hindsight it's easy to say that. at the time dragic wanted a 5 year deal starting at 8 mil. the real question is do you like dragic better than harden, because if we had sign dragic the okc trade would not have been available. why do you ask? each team under the new cba can only have 1 player signed for 5 years. all other players must be on deals of 4 years or less. what made us atractive to harden is we could offer the extra year in the deal that okc could not (durant is their 5 year player), netting him an extra 20 mil dollars. if we could only sign harden to a 4 year deal then there would have only been a 5 mil dollar difference between the offer okc had on the table and what we would have been able to offer which probably means harden stays in okc. I think harden is the better deal. lin was only signed as damage control. we are in a win-win situation with lin. if he pans out great we have our PG of the future, if not his contract only has 2 years after this one. lin was signed as a PR move to generate news in what was otherwise thought to be a down year.

If I'm not mistaken, Dragic wanted a 4 year deal with the 4th year being a player option. Morey didn't want to give the player option.
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Posted 20 November 2012 - 02:24 PM

If I'm not mistaken, Dragic wanted a 4 year deal with the 4th year being a player option. Morey didn't want to give the player option.


exactly correct
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Posted 20 November 2012 - 09:05 PM

Perhaps, the next Lin blog should be. "What is wrong with Jeremy Lin's shot?" @kjy112
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Posted 21 November 2012 - 01:52 AM

I guess it depends on what the rockets wanted to do. If they wanted to generate some buzz and gamble on lin living up to the hype then Lin was the right choice. If they wanted to maybe contend for a playoff spot this year and next year dragic probably was the guy for that. Maybe Lin will play better if not I'm sure they could deal him next year around the deadline.
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Posted 21 November 2012 - 06:26 AM

At the time, I don't believe Morey thought he was going to get Harden. It is clear that at the point Goran is better. When Morey signed Lin, he knew we were at least 2-3 years from being competitive. Because of this, he went with the guy he thought could develop and, just as importantly, could put people in the seats. In my opinion this isn't on Morey at all.
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Posted 22 November 2012 - 04:07 AM

Morey just can't win. When he sets himself up to trade for a star he gets no takers. So he sets himself up to tank and gets a star... on a team built to tank.

I hope Lin is part of the future and not part of the tanking
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