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@  Willk : (02 September 2014 - 02:20 AM) Jeff Adrien is a bad man http://twitpic.com/dlrurt
@  jorgeaam : (01 September 2014 - 04:07 AM) Probably a Parsons and a Beverley on those second rounders :P
@  feelingsuper... : (31 August 2014 - 09:31 PM) I don't mind Terry, it's a low cost gamble. I do like the 2 second rounders Morey acquired.
@  feelingsuper... : (31 August 2014 - 09:30 PM) Harden looked good once he got past the foul trouble and Coach K put the ball in his hands unlike the first half.
@  Willk : (31 August 2014 - 09:15 PM) harden 7 assists 0 TOs
@  Willk : (31 August 2014 - 09:09 PM) FSS - I do not know how to feel about that
@  feelingsuper... : (31 August 2014 - 09:01 PM) Woj reporting Kings working on deal to send Jason Terry to Rockets.
@  Buckko : (30 August 2014 - 08:17 PM) and finally an article on Canaan http://www.ridiculou...-guard#comments
@  feelingsuper... : (30 August 2014 - 03:26 PM) Just a reminder to everyone interested that Team USA plays Finland today at 2:30 central time on ESPN.
@  RollingWave : (28 August 2014 - 07:34 AM) But yeah, I can understand luxury tax / revenue sharing, but the cap's sole purpose is to help the Owner's pockets and also give jobs to all those captologist
@  RollingWave : (28 August 2014 - 07:33 AM) The irony obviously, sports being the one thing where the US is much more socialist than their European counter part ;)
@  thenit : (27 August 2014 - 08:43 PM) Unless Cle wins 2 rings in 4 years I rather have what Mia has now 2 rings and a likely playoff team
@  thenit : (27 August 2014 - 08:43 PM) That's why I don't like American sports, there shouldn't be any salary cap. It should be like Europe. Hating Socialism except for sports where the whole idea of is to compete to be the best. should be capitalistic and a free for all
@  rocketrick : (27 August 2014 - 11:53 AM) Boring...so which situation is better going forward? Miami Heat with practically no salary cap room after winning 2 titles in 3 years or Cleveland with all kinds of cap room? No wonder LeBron and KLove chose Cleveland. Just saying. NBA Salary Cap is quite onerous in the end.
@  thenit : (27 August 2014 - 02:53 AM) I think it's about right where we should be. We are a contender under the radar
@  rocketrick : (27 August 2014 - 12:42 AM) Las Vegas places 16-1 odds for the Rockets chances this season as the eventual NBA Champion. Only the Cavaliers, Bulls, Spurs, Thunder and Clippers rate better odds than the Rockets. Perhaps too much negativity this off-season in H-town???
@  rocketrick : (26 August 2014 - 11:40 PM) Troy Daniels is more of a SG, too with limited, at best, PG skills. I'm with Rolling Wave, I'd rather have Sessions than Ish Smith backing up Beverley
@  RollingWave : (26 August 2014 - 03:23 AM) Session has about 6x the career minutes of those 5 combined, of course you'd rather have him instead of Ish Smith if you could.
@  rockets best... : (26 August 2014 - 02:31 AM) Basketball Insiders is reporting the Rockets are pursuing a sign and trade for Ramon Session. with Ish, Beverly, Canaan, Nick Johnson and Troy Daniels on the roster I don't understand the move unless one of them will be in the deal and it is a larger deal than being currently reported
@  rockets best... : (25 August 2014 - 06:28 PM) so what you're saying is if Morey does this deal he's stupid? I disagree. we have a thread discussing it below. we can continue our conversation there if your wish

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#1 Red94

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Posted 08 November 2012 - 04:53 AM

New post: Denver Nuggets 93, Houston Rockets 87
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#2 sircharles

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Posted 08 November 2012 - 07:33 AM

i felt like i was watching the cleveland indians at the begining of there season in the first major league movie

https://www.youtube....h?v=rBsvuoQMmuo
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Posted 08 November 2012 - 01:00 PM

This team is going to struggle in the half-court offense for awhile. At one point late in the first half last night, they had become so frustrated that they were posting up Asik in their half-court offense. That's not a good sign, at least at this stage of Asik's offensive development.

IMHO, it remains absurd that D Mo and Jones have not seen a stitch of playing time yet. With each passing game, it becomes clearer that McHale is not the right coach for developing this team.
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Posted 08 November 2012 - 02:16 PM

Hopefully harden now knows to never throw a alley oop to asik.
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Posted 08 November 2012 - 04:36 PM

Consequences of failed and successful trades.

In pursuing Dwight the Rockets assumed they were going to have to give up a lot of their front court depth and that they would end up taking J-Rich on.
This would have left them w/a wing depth of Parsons,Delfino(who they were pursuing for a while),Morris,Richardson and either Lamb or a resigned Lee.

Instead the Rockets ended up trading for Harden,while losing both their SGs and keeping all their bigs.
They've ended up w/Parsons,Morris,Delfino,Harden and an undersized Cook. W/the late Pre-Season injuries to Pat,Jones and Motie's infection,the team needed Morris at the 4.
Essentially the team's wings have been whittled down to three players.

With Douglas' inability to run any semblance of an offense,McHale either has to go w/Machado(who has shown zero ability to defend NBA players or any reliable outside shot) or keep Parsons or Harden on the floor w/second unit. The more time the two spend on the second unit is less time they spend on the court together.
This is where the Livingston decision is coming back to bite the Rockets. While Shaun has his own pretty strong limitations,the team could use run him and Douglas out there together,letting Livingston run offense while Douglas could defend PGs and jack up shots.

The dilemma for McHale and the Rookies is if he plays Motie,White or Jones,it does nothing to help his wings rotation. Until Douglas gets whacked by a get-a-clue-stick,the second unit need somebody to steady them and run some basic offense.
If he plays Morris at the 3(or Jones),he's either removed Delfino,his one half-way reliable 3pt shooter from his rotation or is counting on Douglas to set up Morris,Delfino and the back-up bigs.
The only viable solution w/the current roster is for either Douglas to completely change what he has been in his career to date,Jones becoming a not-wacky Lamar Odom,White to be astonishing in practices-or bite the bullet and go with an undrafted rookie PG,w/no defense and hope your back-up bigs can stop opposing PGs from doing too much damage inside.

I hate to blame a player for being who he is,but Douglas is simply not the right back-up PG for this Rockets team. The Rockets either need to add a play-making wing and allow Douglas to be who he is,or they need to replace him on the court w/a PG who is an actual PG.
If the former,the rookies will stay buried on the bench as Aldrich has looked like a capable back-up C(shocking me!),Pat has been very steady and Morris has been adequate as the back-up 4.(And if you yank Morris after one bad game,his confidence will be shot and he'll be useless going forward.)
If they go to a play-making PG,then you can run Morris and Defino out as the wings,freeing up minutes for the rookies at PF.
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#6 feelingsupersonic

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Posted 08 November 2012 - 04:58 PM

I like a lot of your points and assumptions Stephen. Top and bottom, players on the roster including the rookies never play in a vacuum but always with the rest of the roster in real line ups that have to work out in practices first. I could be wrong but I can only assume at this very very early point of the season and considering you have to throw out the preseason since Harden is now here that the rookies riding the bench have not translated their upside into success in practice yet. Realistically maybe one of them cracks the rotation in December or January. We are just 4 games in, just 4 games people.
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Posted 08 November 2012 - 06:07 PM

Last night was my first chance to watch the new rockets, and I literally smacked my head at least three times in the first half. Hopefully familiarity will fix the bobbled passes problem.
Just throwing this out there: Delfino fits better with the starting unit than Parsons. Parsons is a much better playmaker, but when he is on the floor with Lin and Harden, he needs to catch kick-out passes and shoot with confidence. He is still the closest thing we have to a wing-stopper, but until he becomes a 3-point threat, Lin and Harden will suffer. Also, Delfino is the new Steve Novak for Lin.
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#8 Chichos

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Posted 08 November 2012 - 06:48 PM

Playing Delfino as a starter takes a lot of foot speed off the court. Now you have Lin, Harden, and Delfino trading off the wing assignments. I agree in half court sets Delfino's shooting keeps the other team more honest, but we will get torched on defense. We need Parsons to calm down and bury some open 3s. It will happen eventually. Once Lin and Parson make a couple the half court offense will look better.
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Posted 08 November 2012 - 08:00 PM

(speaking of parsons / 3s) how about we just stop shooing so many damn 3s altogether? and what happened to being "up-tempo, run-and-gun" ?? am i not mistaken that thats how we were going to play? i havent watched every min of every game, but i dont recall seeing much of that. seems like we bring it up fairly slow. set up in the half court. pass it around. maybe drive in then dish out for a 3 that we miss.
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Posted 08 November 2012 - 08:37 PM

On Parsons I am torn ( in that Battier kind of way, I know ya'll remember that). I like all the glue guy stuff, the hustling but shooting five 3's a game so far at a 25% clip is not going to contribute to many Rockets' wins. I guess I will have to wait and see if it's a slump or if starts taking less shots or what.
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Posted 08 November 2012 - 09:13 PM

Since the addition of Harden, these guys have had zero time together on the court with the new leader (was there an old leader?). Regardless, at this point and probably for the rest of the season we will have to enjoy the comedy of errors.

Parsons is NOT a shooter in any sense of the word and may not ever be, his form is consistently ugly and inconsistent and will take a bout of amnesia for him to relearn proper form. However, as said below our offense would suffer if we switched Delfino and his roles due to the preference for speed, and our defense would doubly suffer in such a situation. It's Lin who really needs to polish up on his shot, his form is fine.

I think Asik could be really effective working from the elbow in a Hayes-like fashion. I realize he cant score but he seems to be an adept passer, and if all the motion opens up the lane he should make a few layups.

We need to try anyone at PG besides Douglas in my opinion.

If it wasn't for Parsons, Patterson and Asik playing good interior defense we'd be 0-4 right now.
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Posted 09 November 2012 - 12:03 AM

I think the shooting in general will improve. They aren't working together well to get good shots, and as such everyone has a bad percentage. Three point land looks the worst partially because that's where you try to bail yourself out of rig stymied on offense.

The missed open shots are a different story, though. Those are just barf.
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