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@  feelingsuper... : (24 April 2014 - 05:46 AM) Looking back maybe they peaked too early, bought into the hype and then the injuries didn't help.
@  tombrokeoff : (24 April 2014 - 05:37 AM) by my count, the Rockets are 10-10 in their last 20 games. havent been playing great in some time.
@  tombrokeoff : (24 April 2014 - 05:34 AM) when was the last time you were confident in what you saw the Rockets producing on the court? Apr 4th vs OKC? Mar 9th vs Portland? March 7th vs Indiana??
@  Cooper : (24 April 2014 - 05:29 AM) LMA looks like 2011 dirk, but hasn't helped that harden has completely no showed. Team didn't show any fire outside of dwight and hobbled Bev which is ridiculous for a playoff game.
@  tombrokeoff : (24 April 2014 - 05:10 AM) yeah they better bring it back to houston. would be nice if they could manage to win one there and again once back here to take it 6. would be incredible if they could take it to 7. theyll be lucky to win 1 though i think. unless portland pulls a houston and gets big headed/over confident.
@  feelingsuper... : (24 April 2014 - 05:09 AM) I agree, this is the most disappointed in Harden and this team I've been since he arrived. I hope they don't splinter. It's time for them to toughen up and close ranks whether they win or lose this series.
@  tombrokeoff : (24 April 2014 - 05:02 AM) yeah i just dont get why hes MIA .... I honestly hope that something comes out a month or so from now that hes dealing with some crazy offcourt drama. not that i want his game easily affected, but dont some kind of 'ahhh ok i guess i get it now' excuse would make me feel a little better.
@  rockets best... : (24 April 2014 - 05:00 AM) I think this is the most I have been disappointed in Harden since he arrived
@  tombrokeoff : (24 April 2014 - 04:59 AM) agreed
@  rockets best... : (24 April 2014 - 04:59 AM) I saw no fire from Harden. time for him to go see the wizard and get a heart
@  feelingsuper... : (24 April 2014 - 04:58 AM) Aldridge didn't play like this in the regular season. He is on a mission and Portland looks Conference Finals bound.
@  feelingsuper... : (24 April 2014 - 04:56 AM) Harden seems like he is going to learn the hard way. He is going to get schooled a couple years in the post season before he gets it.
@  tombrokeoff : (24 April 2014 - 04:55 AM) i seriously dont know how we went 3-1 vs Portland in the reg season. TERRIBLE TERRIBLE matchup for us. Therefore I hate to throw all of the blame on McHale, but I wanted him fired 2 years ago.
@  rockets best... : (24 April 2014 - 04:52 AM) Harden played like a 3rd banana maybe 4th even.....might be time to get serious about that Melo talk
@  rockets best... : (24 April 2014 - 04:49 AM) slow him down even
@  rockets best... : (24 April 2014 - 04:49 AM) Portland has figured out how to slow Harden yet McHale can't adjust to stop LMA
@  miketheodio : (24 April 2014 - 04:48 AM) yeah it's not one person. it's the mantra of the system the team runs. lookin at you morey.
@  rockets best... : (24 April 2014 - 04:48 AM) yeah but it starts with the coach
@  feelingsuper... : (24 April 2014 - 04:47 AM) I just think it's more complicated than one person being a scapegoat, seems too simplistic.
@  rockets best... : (24 April 2014 - 04:46 AM) if McHale gives us that the ball got sticky phase I'll pass out

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#1 Red94

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Posted 08 November 2012 - 04:53 AM

New post: Denver Nuggets 93, Houston Rockets 87
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#2 sircharles

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Posted 08 November 2012 - 07:33 AM

i felt like i was watching the cleveland indians at the begining of there season in the first major league movie

https://www.youtube....h?v=rBsvuoQMmuo
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#3 Bigtkirk

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Posted 08 November 2012 - 01:00 PM

This team is going to struggle in the half-court offense for awhile. At one point late in the first half last night, they had become so frustrated that they were posting up Asik in their half-court offense. That's not a good sign, at least at this stage of Asik's offensive development.

IMHO, it remains absurd that D Mo and Jones have not seen a stitch of playing time yet. With each passing game, it becomes clearer that McHale is not the right coach for developing this team.
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#4 sircharles

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Posted 08 November 2012 - 02:16 PM

Hopefully harden now knows to never throw a alley oop to asik.
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Posted 08 November 2012 - 04:36 PM

Consequences of failed and successful trades.

In pursuing Dwight the Rockets assumed they were going to have to give up a lot of their front court depth and that they would end up taking J-Rich on.
This would have left them w/a wing depth of Parsons,Delfino(who they were pursuing for a while),Morris,Richardson and either Lamb or a resigned Lee.

Instead the Rockets ended up trading for Harden,while losing both their SGs and keeping all their bigs.
They've ended up w/Parsons,Morris,Delfino,Harden and an undersized Cook. W/the late Pre-Season injuries to Pat,Jones and Motie's infection,the team needed Morris at the 4.
Essentially the team's wings have been whittled down to three players.

With Douglas' inability to run any semblance of an offense,McHale either has to go w/Machado(who has shown zero ability to defend NBA players or any reliable outside shot) or keep Parsons or Harden on the floor w/second unit. The more time the two spend on the second unit is less time they spend on the court together.
This is where the Livingston decision is coming back to bite the Rockets. While Shaun has his own pretty strong limitations,the team could use run him and Douglas out there together,letting Livingston run offense while Douglas could defend PGs and jack up shots.

The dilemma for McHale and the Rookies is if he plays Motie,White or Jones,it does nothing to help his wings rotation. Until Douglas gets whacked by a get-a-clue-stick,the second unit need somebody to steady them and run some basic offense.
If he plays Morris at the 3(or Jones),he's either removed Delfino,his one half-way reliable 3pt shooter from his rotation or is counting on Douglas to set up Morris,Delfino and the back-up bigs.
The only viable solution w/the current roster is for either Douglas to completely change what he has been in his career to date,Jones becoming a not-wacky Lamar Odom,White to be astonishing in practices-or bite the bullet and go with an undrafted rookie PG,w/no defense and hope your back-up bigs can stop opposing PGs from doing too much damage inside.

I hate to blame a player for being who he is,but Douglas is simply not the right back-up PG for this Rockets team. The Rockets either need to add a play-making wing and allow Douglas to be who he is,or they need to replace him on the court w/a PG who is an actual PG.
If the former,the rookies will stay buried on the bench as Aldrich has looked like a capable back-up C(shocking me!),Pat has been very steady and Morris has been adequate as the back-up 4.(And if you yank Morris after one bad game,his confidence will be shot and he'll be useless going forward.)
If they go to a play-making PG,then you can run Morris and Defino out as the wings,freeing up minutes for the rookies at PF.
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Posted 08 November 2012 - 04:58 PM

I like a lot of your points and assumptions Stephen. Top and bottom, players on the roster including the rookies never play in a vacuum but always with the rest of the roster in real line ups that have to work out in practices first. I could be wrong but I can only assume at this very very early point of the season and considering you have to throw out the preseason since Harden is now here that the rookies riding the bench have not translated their upside into success in practice yet. Realistically maybe one of them cracks the rotation in December or January. We are just 4 games in, just 4 games people.
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Posted 08 November 2012 - 06:07 PM

Last night was my first chance to watch the new rockets, and I literally smacked my head at least three times in the first half. Hopefully familiarity will fix the bobbled passes problem.
Just throwing this out there: Delfino fits better with the starting unit than Parsons. Parsons is a much better playmaker, but when he is on the floor with Lin and Harden, he needs to catch kick-out passes and shoot with confidence. He is still the closest thing we have to a wing-stopper, but until he becomes a 3-point threat, Lin and Harden will suffer. Also, Delfino is the new Steve Novak for Lin.
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Posted 08 November 2012 - 06:48 PM

Playing Delfino as a starter takes a lot of foot speed off the court. Now you have Lin, Harden, and Delfino trading off the wing assignments. I agree in half court sets Delfino's shooting keeps the other team more honest, but we will get torched on defense. We need Parsons to calm down and bury some open 3s. It will happen eventually. Once Lin and Parson make a couple the half court offense will look better.
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Posted 08 November 2012 - 08:00 PM

(speaking of parsons / 3s) how about we just stop shooing so many damn 3s altogether? and what happened to being "up-tempo, run-and-gun" ?? am i not mistaken that thats how we were going to play? i havent watched every min of every game, but i dont recall seeing much of that. seems like we bring it up fairly slow. set up in the half court. pass it around. maybe drive in then dish out for a 3 that we miss.
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Posted 08 November 2012 - 08:37 PM

On Parsons I am torn ( in that Battier kind of way, I know ya'll remember that). I like all the glue guy stuff, the hustling but shooting five 3's a game so far at a 25% clip is not going to contribute to many Rockets' wins. I guess I will have to wait and see if it's a slump or if starts taking less shots or what.
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Posted 08 November 2012 - 09:13 PM

Since the addition of Harden, these guys have had zero time together on the court with the new leader (was there an old leader?). Regardless, at this point and probably for the rest of the season we will have to enjoy the comedy of errors.

Parsons is NOT a shooter in any sense of the word and may not ever be, his form is consistently ugly and inconsistent and will take a bout of amnesia for him to relearn proper form. However, as said below our offense would suffer if we switched Delfino and his roles due to the preference for speed, and our defense would doubly suffer in such a situation. It's Lin who really needs to polish up on his shot, his form is fine.

I think Asik could be really effective working from the elbow in a Hayes-like fashion. I realize he cant score but he seems to be an adept passer, and if all the motion opens up the lane he should make a few layups.

We need to try anyone at PG besides Douglas in my opinion.

If it wasn't for Parsons, Patterson and Asik playing good interior defense we'd be 0-4 right now.
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Posted 09 November 2012 - 12:03 AM

I think the shooting in general will improve. They aren't working together well to get good shots, and as such everyone has a bad percentage. Three point land looks the worst partially because that's where you try to bail yourself out of rig stymied on offense.

The missed open shots are a different story, though. Those are just barf.
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