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@  bboley24 : (20 May 2013 - 09:35 PM) TWill...  stay classy.
@  bboley24 : (20 May 2013 - 03:04 PM) b.) No one has mentioned the hoopsworld rumor that DH is intrigued with the possibility of yours truely
@  bboley24 : (20 May 2013 - 03:04 PM) a.) Royce has screwed up any chance of someone with pyschological disorders to get signed.  So much for being a Pioneer
@  2016Champions : (20 May 2013 - 11:12 AM) The question remains, how do you rank them? By "who dominated their era more" or do you use the "time machine" argument?
@  2016Champions : (20 May 2013 - 11:10 AM) That's pretty much what pioneer means.
@  rocketrick : (20 May 2013 - 07:44 AM) If it weren't for the "pioneers", the NBA wouldn't be what it is today. Royce White will probably make more money in his limited "career" than some of the big name players from past eras who made the game what it is today.
@  2016Champions : (20 May 2013 - 02:45 AM) How do you rank someone like that?
@  2016Champions : (20 May 2013 - 02:44 AM) I mean, Bill Russell is the GOAT if you're talking about who dominated his era the most, but in today's game he might just be a rich man's Ben Wallace.
@  2016Champions : (20 May 2013 - 02:42 AM) I think pioneers should be on a completely different list all together, but that's probably just me.
@  rocketrick : (19 May 2013 - 11:46 PM) Although most on this forum never saw them play, I think it's difficult at best to keep Bob Cousy and Oscar Robertson off this list.
@  timetodienow... : (19 May 2013 - 10:59 PM) Top 5 point guards of all time 1)Magic, 2)Stockton, 3)Nash, 4)Thomas, 5)Kidd IMO
@  Richards : (19 May 2013 - 10:39 PM) Hate to see a player like him going out now. Time has come for sure though.
@  2016Champions : (19 May 2013 - 06:23 PM) Time to retire. Do you think he could become a coach one day?
@  Richards : (19 May 2013 - 03:27 PM) Jason Kidd 10 straight games, and total of 25 games for this season with zero points.
@  feelingsuper... : (18 May 2013 - 01:01 AM) I had no problem this evening.
@  thejohnnygold : (17 May 2013 - 11:20 PM) it's working for me
@  2016Champions : (17 May 2013 - 10:20 PM) Does anyone else have trouble accessing page 4 of the James Harden thread?
@  Sir Thursday : (16 May 2013 - 04:10 PM) @BenQueens: Probability of that happening is 4.5%. Still, didn't cost them in the end...
@  BenQueens : (16 May 2013 - 04:30 AM) Randolph 1/4FT in the last minute. Career 76.5% - Wow.
@  BenQueens : (16 May 2013 - 04:20 AM) Bad time for the Thunder to lose track of Tony Allen.

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In Houston, it all starts and ends with Harden


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#1 Red94

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Posted 04 November 2012 - 09:10 PM

New post: In Houston, it all starts and ends with Harden

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Posted 04 November 2012 - 10:20 PM

Thanks for the article Rahat. I knew Morey would come through and now that we have Harden the storyline is infinitely more interesting. Harden definitely fits that good guy stereotype in stark contrast to a Carmelo Anthony type and that bodes well for the Houston market in the long run. The kind of star that Harden develops into as he approaches his prime, how the coaching staff develops the culture and how the rest of the players fall into their roles and which players arise as consistent contributers will be the sub plots that will keep us all intrigued for the next few years.

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Posted 04 November 2012 - 11:16 PM

Yeah it definately feels different now. I still have a small pit in my stomach when I think how the Rockets could still have Dragic and Scola who were let go with no return then not only would the future be bright but the present would be bright as well.

But that can't be undone so I need to stop thinking about it, now I'm just hoping that Jones, White, Motie, and Machado get a shot soon and at least one of them proves to be NBA ready already and help out with this lack of depth problem. McHale is going "win now" by not playing them (supposedly, based on his rotation choices I really have no clue about what goes through his mind) but I think they might be the missing pieces to winning now.

I was all ready to accept that the Rockets weren't going to be good this year and not worry about them losing but the Harden trade has me wanting them to win immediatly again, though I don't see the playoffs for this team unless another move is made or a rookie steps up.

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Posted 05 November 2012 - 02:54 AM

Spot on.

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Posted 05 November 2012 - 03:06 AM

love this story rahat and could not agree more. I agree it takes a little luck to build a good team in the nba, but I also love your point about how you must stay ready. only those who are prepared can take advantage of luck. when morey let some of the players go last year I have to admit I was pissed. I thought if we could figure out a way to hold lowry, dragic and lee and get them to play together all we needed was some bigs and we were in business. I think morey is one of the best gm's in the nba, but my confidence in him slipped. for the life of me I could not figure out what he was trying to do. I have been an avid basketball fan for over forty years (and the rockets have always been my team) and know a few things about the game too. I understood the rockets wanted to stay ready for the big fish, but letting go of some of those pieces hurt. looking back now it's clear if we had not taken most of those steps harden would not have been possible. this reaffirmed my faith in morey. I believe morey can find role players in his sleep, but he was not after more role players. he was single minded in his goal of not building the denver nuggets, but something much greater. the rockets are still in position to catch another big fish. I said back during the summer a lot of teams were throwing money around and would come to regret it. there are still several teams which if they do not meet their expectations will be going into the fire sale mode and the rocket are still ready to pounce on the right deal. morey has guided us from some dark times to where I can see the light at the other end of the tunnel. harden is a player who can be I of the 2 best players on a champion contender. now all we have to do is find him some help

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Posted 05 November 2012 - 03:43 AM

Nice account of the energy at the Toyota Center. With the League Pass preview set to expire on election day, i'm seriously thinking about purchasing a subscription this year. Watching those first 3 games evoked a level of excitement I haven't felt in years, to be honest.

What's the situation with our 3 rookies? Surprising that not a single one has received any playing time thus far, particularly during a back to back series. It's important we incorporate a deep roster for the long season ahead to prevent fatigue and injuries. We should get this cooking now.

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Posted 05 November 2012 - 04:01 AM

Nice account of the energy at the Toyota Center. With the League Pass preview set to expire on election day, i'm seriously thinking about purchasing a subscription this year. Watching those first 3 games evoked a level of excitement I haven't felt in years, to be honest.

What's the situation with our 3 rookies? Surprising that not a single one has received any playing time thus far, particularly during a back to back series. It's important we incorporate a deep roster for the long season ahead to prevent fatigue and injuries. We should get this cooking now.

How did you watch the first games on League Pass? The first two were blacked out on League Pass(not sure about the Portland game, was there so I didn't really care!)
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Posted 05 November 2012 - 04:06 AM

I watched some of all 3 games on League Pass both live and archived since it is offered as a free trial till Tuesday.

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Posted 05 November 2012 - 04:49 AM

I live in Virginia. The free trial wasn't blacked out here.

blakecouey says 45 minutes ago

frogs07, on 05 November 2012 - 03:43 AM said:

Nice account of the energy at the Toyota Center. With the League Pass preview set to expire on election day, i'm seriously thinking about purchasing a subscription this year. Watching those first 3 games evoked a level of excitement I haven't felt in years, to be honest.

What's the situation with our 3 rookies? Surprising that not a single one has received any playing time thus far, particularly during a back to back series. It's important we incorporate a deep roster for the long season ahead to prevent fatigue and injuries. We should get this cooking now.


How did you watch the first games on League Pass? The first two were blacked out on League Pass(not sure about the Portland game, was there so I didn't really care!)

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Posted 05 November 2012 - 08:29 AM

It's funny how Houstonians couldn't witness Harden's two game explosion, similar to how New Yorkers couldn't witness Linsanity when it started, all because of broadcaster rights disagreements.

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Posted 05 November 2012 - 09:58 AM

Yeah, if you live in Houston, be careful of league pass. You're in blackout zone, so be ready to miss the vast majority of Houston games. Only people who have an IP address outside of Houston will be able to see games on league pass.

This piece is on the nose for most Rockets fans, I think. Suddenly, there's something to be excited about. Suddenly, other people are excited. Every time Harden or Lin hit the deck, some fraction of my mind screams in fear that it's all over. That it has to be over, because this is Rockets basketball, and Rockets basketball means a broken heart every year. But it's real, and I'm more on board for the ride than I thought possible. Great read, great year.




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