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@  miketheodio : (22 April 2014 - 06:16 AM) this is all speculation, but i honestly believe the NBA is trying to set a "tone" for some of these game.
@  miketheodio : (22 April 2014 - 06:15 AM) obviously blazers v rockets, but look at the first GSW v clippers game. same deal. this was also done a bit last year for hou vs okc.
@  miketheodio : (22 April 2014 - 06:14 AM) big proponent of let the players play. nba is too ticky tacky. i think the refs were told to be loose with the whistle for series that involved teams with bad blood.
@  rocketrick : (22 April 2014 - 12:55 AM) Hopefully the NBA will change their policy on reviewing plays in the final 2 minutes to include reviewing foul calls. Right now the NBA policy is simply not to review foul calls. Would probably end up in a longer game and completely stop the flow of the game. Still, it is better to get the call right especially in closely contested games.
@  rockets best... : (21 April 2014 - 11:56 PM) I never believed in corruption from high levels in the league however last nights game would be ammo for those that support it
@  rockets best... : (21 April 2014 - 11:53 PM) the NBA admitting their officiating mistake after the fact is hollow. they need better in-game correction and better overall officials. the crew last night was awful
@  BrentYen : (21 April 2014 - 08:30 PM) WT....NBA just corrected that last foul call on D12, should be on Freeland
@  feelingsuper... : (21 April 2014 - 06:43 PM) Yesssssss! I just saw here as well rocketrick, rejoice! http://blog.chron.co...play-in-game-2/
@  rocketrick : (21 April 2014 - 05:25 PM) According to a report on ESPN.com and Yahoo, Beverley has received medical clearance to play in Game 2. No new damage to his knee per his MRI.
@  Cooper : (21 April 2014 - 03:00 PM) You can blame mchale a little bit for defensive schemes but even that was mostly poor execution plus LA seemed to hit every shot. Player usage was not a problem
@  Cooper : (21 April 2014 - 02:49 PM) You can't bench starters in a playoff game have to trust they will get through it. nothing the blazers would love more than having troy daniels on the floor instead of harden or beverley.
@  08huangj : (21 April 2014 - 10:42 AM) If Harden didn't waste so many chances, the Rockets would've won this game. Even though the Trail Blazers in my opinion wasn't suppose to win this one, I think the main reason was McHale.
@  08huangj : (21 April 2014 - 10:37 AM) Forgot to add Beverley. McHale's player usage: For example: When the Rockets were shooting so bad at the three point line and Beverley didn't exactly look like an game changer or even a NBA player, McHale didn't have the nerves to switch on Troy Daniels. He also didn't play Motiejunas, one of the best young players of the team. When a starter is not playing well, like Harden and Beverley for this game, you gotta switch him off for a while. You don't just keep all your starters on the court even when they're playing bad and couldn't resist the Blazers in the fourth quarter. P.S: Harden got 2 attempts at the end of the fourth quarter and overtime that was game changing even when he missed so much shots.
@  08huangj : (21 April 2014 - 10:32 AM) Well, my opinion is that if the Rockets don't advance to the second round, McHale is definitely going to be fired. He might even be fired if he didn't make it to the Western Conference Finals. I mean, maybe my expectations for the Rockets are too high. The truth is: Dwight Howard came to Houston to win a championship, not lose in the first round(Though for me the odds between the two teams are even now). Houston has every ability to win a championship. Dwight Howard and James Harden are both top five players with a good coach. There is also a really good supporting cast: Chandler Parsons, Omer Asik, Terrence Jones, Jeremy Lin, and some good bench players that McHale didn't even bother to play.
@  feelingsuper... : (21 April 2014 - 06:31 AM) Agreed, we just witnessed the Aldridge game. Great players swing games.
@  SadLakerFan : (21 April 2014 - 06:25 AM) Some positives - Aldridge has developed into a great player, but law of averages - he won't be hitting huge threes and scoring 46 again. Harden is unlikely to miss 20 shots again. And even though you live with Howard's free throw struggles, they came in bunches at a critical point, triggering the Blazers' big comeback. It ain't over.
@  feelingsuper... : (21 April 2014 - 06:03 AM) The Rockets seemed to regress to the team they were earlier in the season a little, I guess that was to be expected. I am looking for the team to bounce back of course.
@  feelingsuper... : (21 April 2014 - 06:00 AM) This series will be marked by each team making runs and the Blazers made the run in the forth that completely changed the momentum.
@  feelingsuper... : (21 April 2014 - 05:58 AM) McHale fired, get serious.
@  08huangj : (21 April 2014 - 05:56 AM) When the Rockets were up by eleven, I turned off my T.V because I had more important things to do. Then, after like 40 minutes, I turned on my Mac pro and found the Rockets gave up 122 points to the Blazers and lost. I wouldn't blame the players for anything in the game. I have not liked Mchale ever since I followed the Rockets when Lin came over. I'm not trying to be negative, but he's not a really good coach even though he's a really good basketball player. Any coach that can't lead a team so talented should be fired and ain't very good. Mchale never, ever, draws up place at the end off the game. I don't even thing he has talked to the players of defense and how to prevent a player to get 46 points against one of the best defenders(Asik) in the league. Absolutely insane.

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#1 MichaelPina

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Posted 02 July 2012 - 03:21 PM

http://www.red94.net...fer-sheet/9786/

Me? I love this offer sheet. What are some thoughts?
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#2 Rahat Huq

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Posted 02 July 2012 - 03:32 PM

I really like this signing. Let's hope the Bulls don't match.
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Posted 02 July 2012 - 03:40 PM

I like the prospect of getting a defensive minded center, just seems like it's too much money.
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Posted 02 July 2012 - 03:43 PM

I like the pickup and contract! The league overpays Centers because it is so hard to find a legit 7 footer who can play. 8 Million per year with 15 million coming on year three is a huge bonus if he doesn't pan out, but i can't see that happening. I think we see a legit double double Center for the Rockets next year. give him the off season to learn some skills from Hakeem and McHale, let him work on free throws and get him into starting shape. We will then see him put up some decent numbers!
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Posted 02 July 2012 - 03:44 PM

We need "big guys who jump high and grab rebounders."
Please don't fix that line. The unintentional humor value is higher than Anthony Davis' upside.
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Posted 02 July 2012 - 03:48 PM

I'm still not a fan of his just yet. I have a hard time giving that kind of money to a player who hasn't proven he can play big minutes. There is no denying his defensive capabilities I just don't know if he can keep the intensity up 30+ minutes a game. Sure he could turn out as good or better than Gortat, but that remains to be seen.

That being said, it looks like he will be a Rocket, hopefully it works out.
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Posted 02 July 2012 - 04:17 PM

might not see offensive production in year one, maybe 12 rebounds, 9 points and 3 blocks which would be pretty good I think, that is 8 points off second chance points I would have to guess, I like the idea of a defensive minded center in the mid term, I also like the contract, it adresses the short term realistically, takes care of the 5 in the midterm and allows flexability in the long term, this contract was well thought out, I hope it goes through...
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#8 Rahat Huq

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Posted 02 July 2012 - 04:42 PM

might not see offensive production in year one, maybe 12 rebounds, 9 points and 3 blocks which would be pretty good I think, that is 8 points off second chance points I would have to guess, I like the idea of a defensive minded center in the mid term, I also like the contract, it adresses the short term realistically, takes care of the 5 in the midterm and allows flexability in the long term, this contract was well thought out, I hope it goes through...

That's how I see it. If he gives you 8 points, 11 boards, and 2 blocks, at age 25, that's easily worth the money.

Hollinger called him one of the 5-10 best defensive players in basketball. From what I've read, it's not just interior defense, but the ability to get back in PnR coverage. Those talents cannot be underestimated in what they allow a team to do.
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Posted 02 July 2012 - 04:59 PM

Thumbs up on this, especially because it would turn out in a great trade chip if it doesn't work out (I think it will). It's not the entire solution, but it's a start, right?
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Posted 02 July 2012 - 05:15 PM

I really like this move too, as I've expressed on other threads. Defensive excellence from a Centre has more of an impact on the game than any other position, IMO. We needed the size and the rebounding, and building a defensive identity will pay off down the line. My one worry is that his numbers are tied in some way to Thibadeaux's guidance. It's been well documented that the Bulls' brand of defensive excellence is driven by how hard he drills his players, and I fear that without that same focus on the defensive end we may not get quite as much benefit out of him as Chicago did. Fingers crossed that's not the case.

One part of the article I take slight exception to - I don't think you should completely write off Jon Leuer yet. I seem to recall him getting a lot of love at the beginning of last season (wasn't he up there with some of the RoY candidates in the first few weeks?). Obviously that faded away as the season went on, but I think there's some potential there. Whether there's enough to survive our jam-packed PF rotation, I don't know...


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#11 MichaelPina

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Posted 02 July 2012 - 05:15 PM

That's how I see it. If he gives you 8 points, 11 boards, and 2 blocks, at age 25, that's easily worth the money.

Hollinger called him one of the 5-10 best defensive players in basketball. From what I've read, it's not just interior defense, but the ability to get back in PnR coverage. Those talents cannot be underestimated in what they allow a team to do.


Great call on the pick and roll coverage. Forgot to mention that in my article. He takes charges and blocks shots, which is pretty rare in a seven-footer. If you get Nick Collison type activity from him on offense then all the better.
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Posted 02 July 2012 - 06:52 PM

I heard the deal is for 5mill the first two years then 15mill the last if that is true it wouod be almost impossible for Chicago to match they would be paying huge luxury tax. With rose, Noah,deng and boozer plus him all making close to 15 mill.
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Posted 02 July 2012 - 07:02 PM

And what makes the move even better is that it doesn't preclude a big trade, for either Gasol or Howard. Hollinger has an excellent piece on ESPN insider suggesting that Rockets have the best chance of getting Howard, even after signing Asik. Here are the relevant paragraphs:

"A workable deal can be had hinging on the expiring contracts of Kevin Martin and Kyle Lowry going to the Magic, as well as a flotilla of young assets to help the Magic rebuild.
Chief among them are the six first-round picks Houston has from the past three seasons: Patrick Patterson, Marcus Morris, Donatas Motiejunas, Jeremy Lamb, Terrence Jones, and Royce White.
Amazingly, the Rockets can trade all six of them, as well as last season's starting backcourt of Martin and Lowry, and still have a very strong team. They'd solidify the backcourt by re-signing Goran Dragic and Courtney Lee, starting Chandler Parsons and Luis Scola at forward, and having Howard at center with Asik backing him up.
The rest of the team would be built from the Magic's leftovers; for instance, if Houston included Patterson, Morris, Motiejunas and Jones, Orlando could conceivably dump Jason Richardson, Davis and Duhon on Houston along with Howard.
Doing that would leave Houston with a second unit of Duhon, Richardson, White, Lamb, Davis and Asik -- not too shabby -- and the Rockets still could fortify that with another guard via the under-cap midlevel exception. (Incidentally, it also would threaten to make Houston the first team in recorded history to sign a player with cap space and pay luxury tax in the same season.)
But what of a post-Howard nuclear winter? The Rockets would be capped out with a very average roster for a couple of seasons, but even that scenario presumes they couldn't work a sign-and-trade to get some assets back. At worst, they'd have one very good year with Howard and two bad ones after he left. It's a risk that seems worth taking."
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Posted 02 July 2012 - 07:17 PM

Nice article there johnnyrocket. I'm more weary of howard now then I was a week ago though. Not gonna resign with us? Fine, maybe we could change his opinion. Suing your current team over a deal he himself signed? Nice ethics, I don't buy that he was blackmailed(he rescinded this comment). I'm afraid of we got him that he would pull a t mac and wed be screwed. The old addage "any publicity is good publicity" is true except when talking dwight Howard..No thanks, id rather asik at this point.
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#15 Rahat Huq

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Posted 02 July 2012 - 07:17 PM

Great writeup by Hollinger, as usual. Though he's just demonstrating the Rockets' capabilities, they wouldn't trade all 6. More like 2 or 3, plus Lowry and Martin. So yes, you can very conceivably end up with both Howard and Asik.
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Posted 02 July 2012 - 07:54 PM

Not a big fan. If they wanted a borderline double double guy with some blocking capabilities, why not draft Zeller? I don't see a huge difference in skill here, and with the rook, you'd have less money involved, and longer control of the contract. Blah. Adequate at best.
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Posted 02 July 2012 - 07:57 PM

I know I'm sorta beating a dead horse, but does anyone else dislike Dwight Howard even more with each statement he makes? That Yahoo interview from last night made him sound so out of touch and narcissistic as to be almost unbelievable. I just love it when incredibly fortunate people have a victim complex, it's just such an attractive quality in a human being.

That said, I'd still dance a jig in the street if we traded for him.
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Posted 02 July 2012 - 08:27 PM

Not a big fan. If they wanted a borderline double double guy with some blocking capabilities, why not draft Zeller? I don't see a huge difference in skill here, and with the rook, you'd have less money involved, and longer control of the contract. Blah. Adequate at best.

Zeller is not like asik at all. Zeller isn't as near a good defender but is better offensively. Zeller wont be a double double guy and I would be surprised if asik averaged more than 7 points so he wont be either. Asik is similar to dally but better defensively and we paid him 7mill so asiks contract isn't great but legit 7footers are hard to find and expensive it's just the way it is. Look at what hibbert got offered is asik that much worse than him?
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Posted 02 July 2012 - 08:38 PM

Zeller is not like asik at all. Zeller isn't as near a good defender but is better offensively. Zeller wont be a double double guy and I would be surprised if asik averaged more than 7 points so he wont be either. Asik is similar to dally but better defensively and we paid him 7mill so asiks contract isn't great but legit 7footers are hard to find and expensive it's just the way it is. Look at what hibbert got offered is asik that much worse than him?

good point cooper. I thought hibbert might get an offer like this , and (IMO) we's not worth it. no matter how you slice it this is a good deal for houston. my only worry is we don't give up to much for a rental in howard. I would rather keep the young guys we have than give them away on a malcontent cry baby. I hope they just get rid of martin and scola, let the young guys play and lets find out what we been drafting
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Posted 02 July 2012 - 08:54 PM

The more days that go by the more im willing to just take back picks for lowry, martin, and scola. Not sure there is anyone we can get for them that doesnt impede the development of the young guys for a moderate upgrade to replace them.
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