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@  rocketrick : (31 July 2018 - 12:19 PM) Player Mental Health and Attitude is underappreciated IMO. D12 in Houston was a Disaster in his 3rd (and thankfully final season). D12 wanted to be the focus and "the man"
@  rocketrick : (31 July 2018 - 12:17 PM) The Warriors can only offer Boogie slightly more than $6 million in 2019-2020 per CBA. Seems clear to me Boogie is a 1-year adventure for the Warriors unless I am misunderstanding CBA going forward.
@  rocketrick : (31 July 2018 - 10:20 AM) Who do the Warriors sit if Boogie is on the floor at the end of games? If Boogie is on the bench at the end of games how will Cousins deal with that?
@  thejohnnygold : (30 July 2018 - 02:57 PM) Regarding Boogie--I guess we'll see. He's a force down low and on a team with the likes of Curry, Klay, and Durant he's gonna get a lot of easy looks because the defense is so obsessed with those other guys.
@  slick shoes : (30 July 2018 - 12:45 PM) I hear that we are looking at Jared Dudley as a potential signing. Not sure he pushes us over the top but he and PJ have been working out steadily over the summer.
@  Losthief : (29 July 2018 - 10:27 PM) keeping in mind this is post-achilles boogie, so...fatter and slower (can't be helped at least for year one).
@  Losthief : (29 July 2018 - 10:08 PM) Is boogie closing games for them tho? If so you have capela and drop melo. I mean, melo=draymond at 5, capela = boogie. whose boogie replacing in there closing lineup and not being torn up by paul/harden.
@  thejohnnygold : (29 July 2018 - 04:53 PM) Don't forget about Boogie. This GS team will be different than what we are all used to. Do we really want Melo guarding Boogie on the block? Tucker?
@  Rahat Huq : (28 July 2018 - 10:01 PM) I feel like you can do Melo, tucker, gordon, Paul, Harden against the warriors
@  rocketrick : (28 July 2018 - 03:42 PM) For Offense, the Rockets Crunch Time Offense should be Harden, CP3, Gordon, Carmelo and PJ Tucker......
@  rocketrick : (28 July 2018 - 02:18 PM) I'm with Losthief here. So Harden, CP3, Capela, PJ Tucker and Carmelo in crunch time....
@  Losthief : (28 July 2018 - 09:06 AM) And carmelo could do things against draymond most '5' cannot. We do everything with the warriors as the reason...just a thought.
@  Losthief : (28 July 2018 - 09:05 AM) He would be guarding draymond...aka...offensive liability that harden wandered away from the past year to play safety.
@  Losthief : (28 July 2018 - 09:05 AM) I'll write more thoughts on this later, but going off rahat's typo on twitter. Melo as small ball 5 against warriors might be why morey wants him.
@  DenverRocket : (27 July 2018 - 08:53 PM) Hallelujah! 5 years @ 90$m is a fair deal all around IMO.
@  slick shoes : (27 July 2018 - 08:30 PM) clint is sewed up. now we just need a legit starting SF.
@  rocketrick : (26 July 2018 - 12:56 PM) Golden State signed Danuel House as their 13th roster player yesterday. So, the Rockets still need to find 1 additional Wing IMO going forward. Let's see what happens going forward.....
@  rocketrick : (23 July 2018 - 05:00 PM) Carmelo has to clear waivers. So what does that mean? Simply, if no other NBA team is willing to pay Carmelo's entire $27 million salary this season (and have the Cap Room to do so), then Carmelo will clear waivers. I predict Carmelo will EASILY clear waivers
@  rocketrick : (23 July 2018 - 04:57 PM) Even Woj is saying Carmelo is on the way to the Rockets for the Veteran's Minimum. Carmelo still earns his entire $27 million+ salary, the Rockets would pay the minimum and Atlanta pays like 95%
@  slick shoes : (20 July 2018 - 07:27 PM) sounds like we might have a taker on ryno in SAC. thanks for always being there, kings!

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The Trevor Ariza Conundrum


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#1 thejohnnygold

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Posted 02 June 2018 - 03:58 PM

The challenges in playing Trevor Ariza

by RAHAT HUQ | MAY 30, 2018 at 08:06 PM

From The Ringer:

Ariza had a minuscule playoff usage rate of 13.5. He can’t take defenders off the dribble, he’s not an effective post scorer, and he doesn’t shoot off of movement. Ariza depends entirely on Harden, Paul, and Eric Gordon to create shots for him, which puts a tremendous amount of pressure on the Rockets’ lead ball handlers when they are playing an elite defense like the Warriors. The math was difficult for Houston in the series, even before Paul went down with a hamstring injury in Game 5, because it had no one else who could create offense.

 

This was a great piece today from The Ringer diving into the numbers on Trevor Ariza’s offensive inabilities. It’s a topic I’ve gone in on repeatedly in the past, and a sensitive one at that, given the emotional connection cultivated through his longevity. Ariza is in some ways the heart and soul of this team, now the sole holdover on this roster from James Harden’s debut season, aside from Harden himself. It’s hard to imagine this team without Ariza, and that sentiment is more strongly asserted given his defensive efforts in the postseason. He was all-world in the grand scheme of Houston’s defensive scheme, and left everything he had on the hardwood. But it was once unfathomable too to consider life after Patrick Beverley.

Ariza’s problem is that there is very little he does well on offense. He can’t punish smaller defenders inside, he can’t create on his own, and he can’t score in motion; he’s a volume shooter who also isn’t particularly great at attacking close-outs. Maybe none of this matters in a world where Chris Paul is healthy. But I can’t help but imagine the Rockets with another perimeter player with a shred of self-reliance offensively. Maybe that’s odd considering Houston was at one point flirting with the best offensive rating in the league. I guess that sort of self-evaluation is what a matchup with Golden State merits.


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#2 rocketrick

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Posted 05 June 2018 - 08:39 PM

C'mon Dude, You are better than this. That was not the author's article, just a reference and ..... etc.


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Posted 06 June 2018 - 03:32 PM

C'mon Dude, You are better than this. That was not the author's article, just a reference and ..... etc.

 

Not sure what you mean...I copied and pasted the text from the article "as is".  Is there a different article you were referring to?  Perhaps the formatting has confused you?  Yes, he uses a block quote from the Ringer to start the article, but I'm pretty sure those are Huq's words after.  I've edited it to look better.

 

Either way, if you've got something to say about Ariza this seems like the right time and place...


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Posted 07 June 2018 - 06:55 AM

When the Pelicans lost to the Warriors in the second round I thought "if they had Paul George they would have been scary...". After the WCF loss, a similar thought came up regarding the Rockets.

 

Don't know if PG is interested or if DM can pull this off, but with all respect and fondness of Ariza, having PG instead of him means an extra player that can create his own shot that was so missing when CP3 went down, without much sacrifice on the defensive end.

 

Best thing will be to have both Ariza and PG, but that's probably undoable.

 

My 2 cents...


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Posted 07 June 2018 - 10:55 PM

I completely agree with redfaithful. Of course if the Rockets can obtain the services of Paul George, that would likely end Trevor Ariza in Houston unless he agreed to a very favorable Rocket contract going forward to stay.

 

Which is possible, after all, Trevor Ariza has the advantage of having the complete trust of James Harden and Chris Paul. Just compare that with the Cleveland situation, LeBron basically trusts nobody (except maybe JR Smith).

 

We can discuss numbers and all of that ad nauseum. What truly counts is the trust factor with the leaders (Harden and CP3) which Trevor Ariza clearly has.

 

Not much else to discuss regarding Trevor Ariza in my opinion, but I will listen. Hey, if Harden and CP3 love Ariza, we should not doubt them, OK? 


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Posted 17 June 2018 - 12:13 AM

There’s a report out there by Kelly Iko of the Rockets Wire that Trevor Ariza is looking for a contract between $50-60 million over 4-5 years. This is a pretty significant increase compared to his expired contract of $32 million over 4 years, especially considering what we’re trying to accomplish this summer. Paying Ariza $12+ million into his mid and late 30s doesn’t sound like something I’d sign up for. Looks like Ariza’s time in a Rockets uniform might be over.
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Posted 17 June 2018 - 07:20 PM

There’s a report out there by Kelly Iko of the Rockets Wire that Trevor Ariza is looking for a contract between $50-60 million over 4-5 years. This is a pretty significant increase compared to his expired contract of $32 million over 4 years, especially considering what we’re trying to accomplish this summer. Paying Ariza $12+ million into his mid and late 30s doesn’t sound like something I’d sign up for. Looks like Ariza’s time in a Rockets uniform might be over.

 

I have to agree.  I'd very much like to retain Trevor, but we must always be mindful of the salary cap.  Trevor brings a lot to the table...I guess we'll see how much Morey & Co. value that.


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