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@  thejohnnygold : (22 January 2019 - 12:01 AM) Faried is intriguing...
@  Mario Peña : (17 January 2019 - 01:17 PM) That game last night was a tough loss but that Nets team was scrappy and hit all those threes at the end. The defensive effort was lacking but these loses happen.
@  slick shoes : (14 January 2019 - 09:21 PM) Clint out for a month!
@  slick shoes : (10 January 2019 - 11:52 PM) I would almost rather shelf CP until after the all star break to keep him fresh for a potential postseason run. Would be nice to get EG back sooner than later though.
@  thejohnnygold : (10 January 2019 - 10:22 PM) This has been a brutal stretch of games and we've handled it about as well as could be hoped for. It will be nice to cruise through a slightly softer part of the schedule for a while.
@  Mario Peña : (08 January 2019 - 07:14 PM) The Rockets smoked those Nuggets last night!
@  Mario Peña : (04 January 2019 - 06:49 AM) MVP!!!
@  redfaithful : (04 January 2019 - 06:44 AM) Wow, great great win
@  thejohnnygold : (03 January 2019 - 02:32 PM) I had to go look that up...then I remembered :)
@  slick shoes : (02 January 2019 - 08:37 PM) I'm with JG on this one. March 29, 1990.
@  thejohnnygold : (02 January 2019 - 04:13 PM) I may be biased, but Olajuwon keeps the title of greatest. Not only was he unstoppable offensively, but he was one of the greatest defenders the game has ever seen. Harden is not even close on that end of the floor...yet :)
@  slick shoes : (01 January 2019 - 09:20 PM) I have to concur, I have been pleasantly surprised with our play without CP. I still think we are a 2nd round exit at best without him but hopefully with careful maintenance the rest of the season he can be in uni when we need him.
@  Mario Peña : (31 December 2018 - 09:49 PM) Harden seems unstoppable right now. Maybe the most amazing Rocket of all time though I grew up watching Dream.
@  Mario Peña : (31 December 2018 - 09:46 PM) I had given up hope for the season but it looks like this team could gel. Nene’s presence seems more important that I had figured and I hope he stays healthy.
@  thejohnnygold : (30 December 2018 - 03:21 PM) We're on a pretty impressive stretch...makes me feel a little better about where we are as a team.
@  slick shoes : (21 December 2018 - 02:24 AM) CP going down (again) with a hammy is a big big blow. Barring jesus christ himself joining our squad, we are a 2nd round exit at best. Harden’s championship window just closed i’m afraid :/
@  Losthief : (20 December 2018 - 03:10 AM) and at 11 mil i think he clears for sure.
@  Losthief : (20 December 2018 - 03:09 AM) if he clears waivers we can just sign him at vet min no need to clear any space. Just will cost in luxury tax dollars.
@  slick shoes : (20 December 2018 - 01:14 AM) A Rivers is nice when featured, but I don't know that he is an upgrade over Knight at this point. Maybe if we can trade for cap space and bring him on for the vet min.
@  Losthief : (20 December 2018 - 12:24 AM) jabari was fine in mil w/ space, sucked in chicago...but thats a messed situation. Don't think its worth trading for tho...what do u guys think about our apparent interest in a. rivers?

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The Trevor Ariza Conundrum


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#1 thejohnnygold

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Posted 02 June 2018 - 03:58 PM

The challenges in playing Trevor Ariza

by RAHAT HUQ | MAY 30, 2018 at 08:06 PM

From The Ringer:

Ariza had a minuscule playoff usage rate of 13.5. He can’t take defenders off the dribble, he’s not an effective post scorer, and he doesn’t shoot off of movement. Ariza depends entirely on Harden, Paul, and Eric Gordon to create shots for him, which puts a tremendous amount of pressure on the Rockets’ lead ball handlers when they are playing an elite defense like the Warriors. The math was difficult for Houston in the series, even before Paul went down with a hamstring injury in Game 5, because it had no one else who could create offense.

 

This was a great piece today from The Ringer diving into the numbers on Trevor Ariza’s offensive inabilities. It’s a topic I’ve gone in on repeatedly in the past, and a sensitive one at that, given the emotional connection cultivated through his longevity. Ariza is in some ways the heart and soul of this team, now the sole holdover on this roster from James Harden’s debut season, aside from Harden himself. It’s hard to imagine this team without Ariza, and that sentiment is more strongly asserted given his defensive efforts in the postseason. He was all-world in the grand scheme of Houston’s defensive scheme, and left everything he had on the hardwood. But it was once unfathomable too to consider life after Patrick Beverley.

Ariza’s problem is that there is very little he does well on offense. He can’t punish smaller defenders inside, he can’t create on his own, and he can’t score in motion; he’s a volume shooter who also isn’t particularly great at attacking close-outs. Maybe none of this matters in a world where Chris Paul is healthy. But I can’t help but imagine the Rockets with another perimeter player with a shred of self-reliance offensively. Maybe that’s odd considering Houston was at one point flirting with the best offensive rating in the league. I guess that sort of self-evaluation is what a matchup with Golden State merits.


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#2 rocketrick

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Posted 05 June 2018 - 08:39 PM

C'mon Dude, You are better than this. That was not the author's article, just a reference and ..... etc.


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Posted 06 June 2018 - 03:32 PM

C'mon Dude, You are better than this. That was not the author's article, just a reference and ..... etc.

 

Not sure what you mean...I copied and pasted the text from the article "as is".  Is there a different article you were referring to?  Perhaps the formatting has confused you?  Yes, he uses a block quote from the Ringer to start the article, but I'm pretty sure those are Huq's words after.  I've edited it to look better.

 

Either way, if you've got something to say about Ariza this seems like the right time and place...


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Posted 07 June 2018 - 06:55 AM

When the Pelicans lost to the Warriors in the second round I thought "if they had Paul George they would have been scary...". After the WCF loss, a similar thought came up regarding the Rockets.

 

Don't know if PG is interested or if DM can pull this off, but with all respect and fondness of Ariza, having PG instead of him means an extra player that can create his own shot that was so missing when CP3 went down, without much sacrifice on the defensive end.

 

Best thing will be to have both Ariza and PG, but that's probably undoable.

 

My 2 cents...


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#5 rocketrick

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Posted 07 June 2018 - 10:55 PM

I completely agree with redfaithful. Of course if the Rockets can obtain the services of Paul George, that would likely end Trevor Ariza in Houston unless he agreed to a very favorable Rocket contract going forward to stay.

 

Which is possible, after all, Trevor Ariza has the advantage of having the complete trust of James Harden and Chris Paul. Just compare that with the Cleveland situation, LeBron basically trusts nobody (except maybe JR Smith).

 

We can discuss numbers and all of that ad nauseum. What truly counts is the trust factor with the leaders (Harden and CP3) which Trevor Ariza clearly has.

 

Not much else to discuss regarding Trevor Ariza in my opinion, but I will listen. Hey, if Harden and CP3 love Ariza, we should not doubt them, OK? 


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Posted 17 June 2018 - 12:13 AM

There’s a report out there by Kelly Iko of the Rockets Wire that Trevor Ariza is looking for a contract between $50-60 million over 4-5 years. This is a pretty significant increase compared to his expired contract of $32 million over 4 years, especially considering what we’re trying to accomplish this summer. Paying Ariza $12+ million into his mid and late 30s doesn’t sound like something I’d sign up for. Looks like Ariza’s time in a Rockets uniform might be over.
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Posted 17 June 2018 - 07:20 PM

There’s a report out there by Kelly Iko of the Rockets Wire that Trevor Ariza is looking for a contract between $50-60 million over 4-5 years. This is a pretty significant increase compared to his expired contract of $32 million over 4 years, especially considering what we’re trying to accomplish this summer. Paying Ariza $12+ million into his mid and late 30s doesn’t sound like something I’d sign up for. Looks like Ariza’s time in a Rockets uniform might be over.

 

I have to agree.  I'd very much like to retain Trevor, but we must always be mindful of the salary cap.  Trevor brings a lot to the table...I guess we'll see how much Morey & Co. value that.


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