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@  slick shoes : (21 June 2017 - 04:28 PM) Morey is locked in for four more years. Glad to have some stability at the helm after everything we've seen the last couple of weeks.
@  slick shoes : (16 June 2017 - 04:31 PM) It's a shame we don't have a first rounder this year. I did notice that the W's and the Cavs have 0 picks this year (not that they need them).
@  thejohnnygold : (16 June 2017 - 03:57 PM) Whoever picks him is going to be a happy camper
@  slick shoes : (16 June 2017 - 02:00 PM) De'Aaron Fox giving Bev a shout at the end of this piece
http://www.espn.com/...var-ball-chorus
@  slick shoes : (22 May 2017 - 05:25 PM) I can't decide if I want them to draft Ball or not.
@  thejohnnygold : (21 May 2017 - 02:50 PM) Don't worry...they'll find a way to screw it up.
@  slick shoes : (17 May 2017 - 03:52 PM) Is anyone else annoyed that the league reached out and helped the Lakers secure a top 3 pick to keep them from long term ruin?
@  Mario Peña : (13 May 2017 - 11:56 AM) It would appear James will take games off next year which is probably a good thing. Perhaps we will see some evolution from emphasis on regular season to being playoff ready both from a physical as well as a strategy standpoint.
@  rocketrick : (12 May 2017 - 05:26 AM) I personally will be rooting for the Spurs in their next matchup with Golden State in the Western Conference Finals
@  rocketrick : (12 May 2017 - 05:26 AM) Congratulations to the Spurs and Coach Pop. They completely destroyed the Rockets last night (understatement of the year)
@  DenverRocket : (12 May 2017 - 02:55 AM) Very disappointing end to an otherwise great season.
@  DenverRocket : (12 May 2017 - 01:10 AM) Stunningly bad. Out played, out coached and no one is stepping up :-(
@  slick shoes : (12 May 2017 - 01:07 AM) Well, it can't get any worse right?
@  slick shoes : (12 May 2017 - 12:35 AM) It's like Dekker has been waiting to play or something.
@  08huangj : (11 May 2017 - 12:08 PM) It is utterly baffling to me why MDA is not utilizing Dekker and Harrell. These two were integral to our dominant regular season bench!
@  DenverRocket : (10 May 2017 - 03:18 AM) Everything the TNT analysts said, I was screaming during OT. MDA blamed it on fatigue - no kidding sherlock, when you only use a 7 player rotation!
@  DenverRocket : (10 May 2017 - 03:17 AM) Sorely disappointed with that. Huge missed opportunity. I thought McHale was coaching again in overtime!
@  slick shoes : (10 May 2017 - 03:02 AM) No offensive scheme in overtime. No Parker, and no Leonard through all of overtime and you STILL can't close it out?!
@  thejohnnygold : (10 May 2017 - 02:57 AM) So much profanity in my home tonight...
@  Mario Peña : (08 May 2017 - 06:57 PM) Right Johnnygold! That was a good game!

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Can James Harden win the MVP this season? Part 4


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#1 Red94

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Posted 08 March 2017 - 12:58 AM

New post: Can James Harden win the MVP this season? Part 4
By: Rahat Huq

It's a good thing the vote will not be held tomorrow.  The image of Kawhi Leonard burying a '3' at one end, and then racing back to swallow up a James Harden shot attempt was a powerful one, further embodying an already pervasive narrative of the superiority of a two-way superstar.  Last night, Kawhi officially arrived in the MVP race, not just as a dark horse, but as a legitimate front-runner.

 

Today, I wanted to look at the on/off ratings of each of the main contenders for the award.  Its a relevant statistic because back in 2014-2015, when the case for Harden was made as doing more with less, the rejoinder provided in support of Steph Curry were his on/off numbers.  With Curry on the court, the Warriors had a net rating of +17.0.  When he sat, it fell to -0.1.  In essence, the evidence attacked the claim that the Warriors were better than the Rockets because of their superior supporting cast.

 

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If we're using these metrics, Lebron has the strongest case.  While the Thunder are terrible without Russell Westbrook, they're not exactly at the top of the standings with him.  But the Cavs, who have been atop the East all season, would be a lottery team without Lebron.

 

This data hurts both Harden and Leonard.  The Spurs are still very good with Leonard on the bench.  And unlike 2015, the Rockets have been able to survive this season when Harden has rested.

 

Of course, one's value to one's own team, and the quality of one's teammates, are just two of the many factors which can be taken into consideration when determining the oh-so-arbitrary Most Valuable Player Award.  But this data provides for an interesting perspective.


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Posted 15 March 2017 - 04:00 PM

Here's the latest on MVP from the talking heads at TrueHoop: http://www.espn.com/...-mvp-debate-all

 

James gets most votes in this forum, but interesting discussion to add to what Rahat has written.


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