Do you guys think?
Morey is trying to showcase Shved for a trade.
Or
They believe Shved has a higher ceiling than Canaan and they would rather give the PT to Shved.
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Posted 11 January 2015 - 08:55 PM
Do you guys think?
Morey is trying to showcase Shved for a trade.
Or
They believe Shved has a higher ceiling than Canaan and they would rather give the PT to Shved.
Posted 11 January 2015 - 11:14 PM
Edited by timetodienow1234567, 11 January 2015 - 11:15 PM.
Why so Serious?
Posted 12 January 2015 - 04:10 AM
The way they stopped using Canaan after he put together a string of pretty good games right before he got injured... it confuses me. Like we've speculated before, there may have been something more to it. Maybe it's just a simple size thing? 6' 0" vs. 6' 6"...
I personally don't see how Shved has a higher ceiling; Canaan is obviously less experienced, but he's an enormously better shooter, and even seems more creative off the dribble.
Anyways so I'm hoping they're maybe preparing Shved to be part of a trade for another PG? A creator PG for the second unit would be very valuable.
Posted 12 January 2015 - 04:13 AM
Alex isn't playing so it doesn't matter in regards of showcasing him.
I'm not sure what houston is doing right now. Canaan started when Bev was out, but before and after the injury of Bev, he didn't play or backup. So its weird that they will start him when Bev is out but play Terry off the bench regardless of who is starting.
Posted 12 January 2015 - 04:34 AM
^True.
Related to that, and to a persisting pet-peeve of mine:
Does anyone else think that Terry as a 25 MPG point guard is not a sustainable/ideal plan??
I need some validation here, bear with me.
Posted 12 January 2015 - 04:50 PM
I don't want to read too much into the Canaan move--maybe they just want him to be game ready and figure playing in the D-League is better than riding the pine. As for Shved, this snippet from DraftExpress.com should excite some people around here:
Watching Shved play, it’s tough not to be enamored with the terrific talent he displays, particularly his ability to play the pick-and-roll and operate in the open floor. He’s got great size for either backcourt position at 6-5 and is an extremely fluid, creative player with the ability to create his own shot, which is rare for a European prospect. He has all the typical tricks you see from Euro-style slashers, relying heavily on timing, pace, change of speed and herky-jerky shakes and crossovers to get his man off balance, but he also has an extra gear he can go to to get by his man using either hand, particularly in transition.
In this regard, his style of play is very similar to the way Goran Dragic played for Phoenix this season. Shved is an even better passer, though. He instinctively makes smart, simple passes within the flow of the offense, but he can also wow you at times with his imagination and his ability to thread the needle and find the open man diving to the rim for an easy basket.
http://www.draftexpr...m#ixzz3OcqhiNxJ
http://www.draftexpress.com
I think Houston wants to get a good look at him and see if they can iron out the wrinkles in his game. We already got Brewer in the deal so it's a no cost gamble.
Also, cointurtlemoose, I do think size is an issue. There is a reason there aren't many 6' tall NBA players. (According to Draft Express, he is 5' 11" without shoes.) Shved is 6' 5" without shoes--that's 6" of extra defense and scoring ability. Canaan does have an equal 6' 4" wingspan (same as Shved) so that helps.
I know everyone wants Canaan on the floor more, but the Rockets have their reasons. If he was the best option to be out there, he would be out there. As McHale once quipped, "We're trying to win".
Posted 12 January 2015 - 05:02 PM
^True.
Related to that, and to a persisting pet-peeve of mine:
Does anyone else think that Terry as a 25 MPG point guard is not a sustainable/ideal plan??
I need some validation here, bear with me.
Posted 12 January 2015 - 06:03 PM
Posted 12 January 2015 - 06:10 PM
Edited by rocketrick, 12 January 2015 - 06:14 PM.
Posted 12 January 2015 - 06:42 PM
Have to consider playoff rotation going forward. Does anyone really think any smart NBA Coach is going to play Canaan over J Terry in the 2015 playoffs? Only if Canaan is just killing it the last few weeks of the regular season and even then, not a sure thing. NBA experience, especially playoff experience, simply overrules in just about all cases.
Point taken, but then again my main concern is that Terry won't last that long at this pace. He's been good for us, I just don't want to run him into the ground before playoffs when, like you said, we'll really need him. Anyways maybe I worry too much
Posted 12 January 2015 - 07:04 PM
Posted 12 January 2015 - 07:49 PM
Terry looks good....and he doesn't play inside/penetrate much so I think he'll be fine. He reminds me of vince carter a bit in the fact that they had so much athleticism to begin with (carter all around, terry speed/hangtime) that even though they aren't what they were they still are equal to alot of nba players out there.
As for canaan....he hasn't looked right since he's come back from injury it may be about getting him some run as well. I like Shved actually as a potential back up shooting guard with his size as that would allow you to have a ballhander/passer type to play with bev when sitting harden but dunno if he's up to it. When its bev and either terry or brewer in the backcourt we lack outside pentration and pick and roll ability...so that could be part of it playing Shved as a 2 next to terry/bev.
LoSTHieF
I'd Rather Be Lucky Than Skilled
Posted 27 January 2015 - 06:17 PM
Not all isolation plays are equal.
Posted 28 January 2015 - 09:11 AM
I agree that Canaan did not look the same after the injury. He might have returned too soon. Hopefully he found his shooting touch in the DLeaguePersonally I don't think Canaan was the same after his injury and with the roster upheaval he was better served by a stint with the Vipers but he is back. I wonder if Canaan gets playing time this go round and I wonder if he is mentioned in current trade talks.
Posted 28 January 2015 - 05:34 PM
And in case anyone missed it, this is what he was up to when he was gone:
Posted 28 January 2015 - 06:18 PM
And in case anyone missed it, this is what he was up to when he was gone:
The second shot he took looked identical to Harden's stepback j. Such a thing of beauty.
Posted 28 January 2015 - 10:15 PM
I got curious and looked at shved numbers in philly....he had a 20.0 per this year while there. Now here he's had a 9.5, and its all assists (his shooting is roughly the same) so maybe they were seeing if it would translate and it hasn't? Also...why hasn't in translated? Also...is a 20 per on the sixers more or less impressive because they are so bad at offense? The questions ahhhhh!!!!!!
Also eye test, I think canaan is better so i agree with rahat something going on behind the scenes, but yeah, he didn't look healthy when he came back.
LoSTHieF
I'd Rather Be Lucky Than Skilled
Posted 28 January 2015 - 11:29 PM
Shved was intriguing because he's got great physical tools: 6'6", somewhat quick, lanky... maybe Morey wanted to give him a shot predicated on just that. And granted, it is hard to judge a guy based on the haphazard/garbage time he's gotten on a totally new team... but yeah he has def failed both the stats-test and the eye-test so far. And those reports about him wanting to go back to Russia after this year may very well be true.
And if Barea or Felton comes in tonight, I hope they give Canaan a shot on 'em
Posted 29 January 2015 - 12:39 AM
The impression I get is that Shved is the sort of player that really needs to know the system to be confident. He doesn't look like he knows what he's doing out there with the Rockets, and I suspect that's because he lacks the comfort of understanding the foundational principles of the offence. As a point guard knowing all that stuff is especially important, and it seems like needing to consciously remember all that stuff causes him to forget basic principles (like you know, not getting stripped of the ball, or keeping it in bounds). It's the only explanation I can think of for why he's looked so bad in his stints on the court.
ST
Posted 29 January 2015 - 05:26 AM
Interesting points st, do you think it is harder for a player like that to pick up a read and react offense because of the stress on quick decision making versus set plays?
LoSTHieF
I'd Rather Be Lucky Than Skilled
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