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@  bboley24 : (10 May 2013 - 02:18 PM) MDK
@  RollingWave : (09 May 2013 - 10:01 AM) The west is such a brutal conference though, I mean if the Heat was in the West, it's probably at least a 30% chance they don't make it to the finals either. almost everything is good enough that if enough things lineup right for a brief stretch your done.
@  2016Champions : (09 May 2013 - 04:35 AM) I've been saying ppl need to stop sleeping on the Spurs, but if they lose this series I'm going into deep slumber on them. Like Demolition Man cryonically frozen slumber.
@  blakecouey : (09 May 2013 - 03:31 AM) Well Hack-A-Bogut is going to get the Spurs back into this game.  They should've been put away, big shots falling again tonight.
@  blakecouey : (09 May 2013 - 02:55 AM) I don't know if he realizes it, but they're the same age whether they win or lose.
@  blakecouey : (09 May 2013 - 02:55 AM) "If/when these guys win tonight we cant no longer call these guys young" - Shaq on The Warriors.
@  pharmag : (07 May 2013 - 10:17 PM) @2016, that is too true!  Of course it helps that South Beach, LA, and NYC teams have their cap room tied up for forseeable future (barring a D12 or CP3 bailing)
@  2016Champions : (07 May 2013 - 02:59 PM) I feel like we're becoming one of the most desired destinations now too, our organization is moving on up!
@  feelingsuper... : (07 May 2013 - 01:09 PM) That is a good sign when other organizations cherry pick your staff. I think the culture and system that the Rockets have put in place and begun to develop in the end will be far more important than any coach.
@  blakecouey : (07 May 2013 - 03:10 AM) Going to miss Sampson.  Everything Ive heard/read/seen say hes a great coach.
@  RollingWave : (07 May 2013 - 02:54 AM) Our D, at least in half court, was very sound, the transition part though... eeek.
@  2016Champions : (07 May 2013 - 02:50 AM) Sampson was the mastermind behind our underrated defense.
@  Richards : (07 May 2013 - 02:30 AM) We all knew Morey put together the team and McHale/Sampson coached the players. Sampson was a mastermind behind coaching.
@  feelingsuper... : (07 May 2013 - 02:08 AM) You got a right to your opinion but seems like Morey is the brains to me, thought that was obvious with the offensive scheme and all that. Rockets coaching is about leadership at this point which McHale possesses in spades.
@  Richards : (07 May 2013 - 02:04 AM) Well, by reading what players said throughout the season, Sampson seems to be the brain behind Rockets basketball.
@  feelingsuper... : (07 May 2013 - 01:52 AM) Of course he stays, what do you mean by that question? It is a strange question since what assistants do would never effect a head coach that way.
@  Richards : (07 May 2013 - 12:51 AM) Will McHale stay if Sampson got coaching job at another team?
@  RollingWave : (05 May 2013 - 09:37 AM) Irving still need to work on a few things (most notably defense), his performance considering his age is great.
@  Dan G : (04 May 2013 - 06:50 AM) Damn..who knew tonight was gonna be close out the series night? Four Games 6s and four closeouts.
@  feelingsuper... : (04 May 2013 - 06:28 AM) Whatever comes the next few seasons (barring injuries) it will be hard to match the unadulterated excitement we had watching these young Rockets this past year, it was definitely some kind of roller coaster ride...

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What is at stake for the Houston Rockets?


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#1 Red94

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    Posted 21 April 2013 - 10:35 PM

    New post: What is at stake for the Houston Rockets?
    By: rahat huq

    We're now just an hour away from tip-off of Game 1.  After tonight, our expectations and perceptions will be polluted by the emotions of whatever is about to take place.  Thus, it's important now to reflect with clear minds.

    What's at stake and what do we hope to see?

    To begin, only one, maybe two individuals involved with the Houston Rockets organization have anything at stake in this series.  The team, in even making the playoffs this year, overachieved beyond anyone's wildest expectations.  Even if they lose 4-0 by an average of 20 points per game, perception will not change.  They are on the rise and ahead of schedule.  Daryl Morey, regardless of the outcome, should unanimously claim Executive of the Year honors for his job in assembling this team.  While he won't win the award, Kevin McHale should at least be mentioned in the discussion for Coach of the Year for the job he did in getting this young group to buy into the system and come together.

    Greg Smith, Terrence Jones, and Donatas Motiejunas have nothing at stake.  No one is expecting any of the three to provide anything.  Patrick Beverley also has nothing at stake - because he played such a huge role on this team, we quickly forget that he too is a rookie.  Chandler Parsons, Omer Asik, and Carlos Delfino also have nothing at stake.  No one will think any less of them if they lay eggs.

    While it shouldn't be the case, there's a chance the perception of Lin could change after this series.  Recall that this is really the first time he'll be back on the national scene after leaving New York and the spotlight of Linsanity.  Many [bitter New Yorkers] felt that he was not worth the contract he signed - he'll certainly be under the microscope.  If Lin is completely outclassed by Russell Westbrook, those critics will feel justified in their stance.

    James Harden is really the only Rocket who without a doubt has something on the line.  Did the Thunder make a mistake?  So far, they haven't missed a beat but that question will only be answered in the postseason.  If he can even put a scare into Oklahoma City, he will cement himself as one of the game's best players.  (ESPN ranked him 7th in the league, behind Westbrook.)



    What are we looking for?  I'm not quite sure some realize just how greatly the odds are against this Rockets team.  In the sole win against the Thunder, the Rockets needed everything to go right, overcoming a 12 point deficit in the second half of the 4th quarter just to eke out a 3 point win.  Those aren't circumstances with high odds for duplication.  In the two losses, the Rockets were blown out.

    There's really nothing I'm looking for.  I won't even be upset if the team runs ISOball if there's a close game - that adjustment can only come after a full training camp.  All I hope is that they learn from this experience.  I hope that Parsons and Lin, and the rookie forwards too, learn what it takes to compete in the playoffs.  I hope Harden sees how much he needs to improve now that he is the focal point of his team.  And I hope McHale learns what does and doesn't work about our system and scheme.  We won't know if any of these desires come to fruition until next season.  For now, we can just sit back and enjoy.

     

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      Posted 21 April 2013 - 10:51 PM

      Respectfully disagree on Smith,Jones and D-Mo.

      Their play in the Play-Offs goes a long way towards determining if the Rockets feel they have to upgrade the PF this off-season.



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      Posted 21 April 2013 - 10:53 PM

      Kevin McHale's job might be at stake if we don't play small ball and take advantage of Ibaka's weak spot-up defense. 


       “Every [player] decision has two main components, the scouting or traditional analysis and the numbers … depending on the situation, you weight them differently.” - Daryl Morey

      Small sample sizes exaggerate effects. 

      Do not read statistics as gospel. Statistics provides tools that you need in order to react intelligently to information you hear or see.


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        Posted 21 April 2013 - 11:22 PM

        Sam Presti's job is on the line. After the Rockets win in 6 because of Harden, he will be on the unemployment line for shipping out his second best player for pig slop.

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          Posted 22 April 2013 - 12:39 AM

          Respectfully disagree on Smith,Jones and D-Mo.

          Their play in the Play-Offs goes a long way towards determining if the Rockets feel they have to upgrade the PF this off-season.

          Definitely agreed - but I think that's just house money.  i.e. those guys have nothing at stake....they won't get traded or cut or be thought less of just because they played poorly.  everyone's expecting it.  if any of them plays well, its an unexpected surprise with the product being a reevaluation of offseason needs. but nothing is on the line for them individually. 



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            Posted 22 April 2013 - 01:15 AM

            Again I disagree.

            There are 4 young PFs on the roster. That's way too many. One may carve out a role as a back-up C,but if they collectively play poorly enough that the Rockets bring in a PF,somebody's leaving town.

            There's a big difference being a young rotation player on a Play-Off team and being exiled to Charlotte.

            And if the Rockets do bring in a starting PF,that shrinks the minutes and someone is going to get banished to deep bench,or become a D-league fixture. Not exactly career enhancing,and definitely a limiter to their next contract.



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              Posted 22 April 2013 - 02:57 AM

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                Posted 22 April 2013 - 03:11 AM

                Again I disagree.

                There are 4 young PFs on the roster. That's way too many. One may carve out a role as a back-up C,but if they collectively play poorly enough that the Rockets bring in a PF,somebody's leaving town.

                There's a big difference being a young rotation player on a Play-Off team and being exiled to Charlotte.

                And if the Rockets do bring in a starting PF,that shrinks the minutes and someone is going to get banished to deep bench,or become a D-league fixture. Not exactly career enhancing,and definitely a limiter to their next contract.

                good point, i see what you mean.  



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                  Posted 22 April 2013 - 03:17 AM

                  Am I the only one here that has seen enough out of All of our power forwards to realize that None of them are very good? I seriously do not see how people think they are all so talented. Talented from a basketball sense, yes. Talented from the league know as the NBA sense, no. They are serviceable at best and are all projects.

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                  Posted 22 April 2013 - 04:52 AM

                  We did really well with Delfino at the 4 tonight, I hope to see more of that whenever Ibaka is on the floor because we need to take him away from the rim. Whenever Greg Smith was on the floor, Ibaka was there to block the shot everytime anyone got to the rim and that's just not cool Congo man.


                   “Every [player] decision has two main components, the scouting or traditional analysis and the numbers … depending on the situation, you weight them differently.” - Daryl Morey

                  Small sample sizes exaggerate effects. 

                  Do not read statistics as gospel. Statistics provides tools that you need in order to react intelligently to information you hear or see.


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                    Posted 22 April 2013 - 05:56 AM

                    We did really well with Delfino at the 4 tonight, I hope to see more of that whenever Ibaka is on the floor because we need to take him away from the rim. Whenever Greg Smith was on the floor, Ibaka was there to block the shot everytime anyone got to the rim and that's just not cool Congo man.


                    That just proves my point and shows how much our power forwards stink! Carlos Delfino at 6'6" is our Most effective PF. How sad is that???

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                    Posted 22 April 2013 - 06:10 AM

                    It's pretty sad lol

                     

                    We need to upgrade, no question. But if we do, I want the PF to be someone who can shoot well. 


                     “Every [player] decision has two main components, the scouting or traditional analysis and the numbers … depending on the situation, you weight them differently.” - Daryl Morey

                    Small sample sizes exaggerate effects. 

                    Do not read statistics as gospel. Statistics provides tools that you need in order to react intelligently to information you hear or see.


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                      Posted 22 April 2013 - 06:28 AM

                      It's pretty sad lol

                      We need to upgrade, no question. But if we do, I want the PF to be someone who can shoot well.


                      Agreed

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                        Posted 22 April 2013 - 06:29 AM

                        I'm starting to think that Lin is not the long-term answer at PG also

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                        Posted 22 April 2013 - 06:45 AM

                        I hope Lin is the answer because I've heard that the owner LOVES Lin, we're pretty much stuck with him. 


                         “Every [player] decision has two main components, the scouting or traditional analysis and the numbers … depending on the situation, you weight them differently.” - Daryl Morey

                        Small sample sizes exaggerate effects. 

                        Do not read statistics as gospel. Statistics provides tools that you need in order to react intelligently to information you hear or see.


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                          Posted 22 April 2013 - 07:39 AM

                          I hope Lin is the answer because I've heard that the owner LOVES Lin, we're pretty much stuck with him.


                          Of course he does, cause he's a great guy and a great teammate. He's like the Tebow of basketball. He is also very marketable and draws fans. What owner wouldnt want that? But does that mean he's the right PG for us as a team trying to win a title?

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                          Posted 22 April 2013 - 08:20 AM

                          I heard that the revenue has has brought to the organization is crazy, like eye-popping numbers, and I guess you can say that could help us in the future if the time comes where we have to pay luxury tax and don't want to break up the team. The more revenue the owner makes, the more he's willing to spend on luxury tax. 

                           

                          In terms of how much he impacts games though, who knows? At the beginning of the season I would have said no way, but he has improved so much that it's hard to not root for this guy. I think we will know for sure next season if he's the guy or not, but if you forced me to make an educated guess right now I would say I'm pretty optimistic, I think he will become good enough for us to win a championship with as our 3rd or 4th best player. And when I say 3rd or 4th best player that's not a knock on Lin, that's just how good his team mates are. 


                           “Every [player] decision has two main components, the scouting or traditional analysis and the numbers … depending on the situation, you weight them differently.” - Daryl Morey

                          Small sample sizes exaggerate effects. 

                          Do not read statistics as gospel. Statistics provides tools that you need in order to react intelligently to information you hear or see.


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                            Posted 22 April 2013 - 01:42 PM

                            I heard that the revenue has has brought to the organization is crazy, like eye-popping numbers, and I guess you can say that could help us in the future if the time comes where we have to pay luxury tax and don't want to break up the team. The more revenue the owner makes, the more he's willing to spend on luxury tax.

                            In terms of how much he impacts games though, who knows? At the beginning of the season I would have said no way, but he has improved so much that it's hard to not root for this guy. I think we will know for sure next season if he's the guy or not, but if you forced me to make an educated guess right now I would say I'm pretty optimistic, I think he will become good enough for us to win a championship with as our 3rd or 4th best player. And when I say 3rd or 4th best player that's not a knock on Lin, that's just how good his team mates are.


                            I like him, but where would you rank him right now among NBA PGs?

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                              Posted 22 April 2013 - 02:01 PM

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                              Posted 22 April 2013 - 02:03 PM

                              It seems to me that there is a lot more at stake than most are thinking about if Houston continues to play like they did last night. Future free agents looking at us as a desirable destination won't come to a 'no potential' situation.  So, I think that a lot is at stake here...    Now, the good news... We only lost one game last night, and it does not matter by how many points. How we respond to this blowout is highly important. The coaches can't go out and play the game, so our players have to step up as Patrick Bev did last nite. If Lin can't show considerable improvement next game, his future in Houston might become a real issue... don't care how much they like him, if he can't produce there are others who can.






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