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Who's the Rockets' next target?
#61
Posted 06 November 2012 - 09:57 PM
I agree we need a better backup PG, but douglas looked quite good in preseason, so it might be a bit early to write him off. Another aspect to watch is Douglas is a very good defender, but below average at running the offense, so maybe we should pair him with a backup sg who can create (not delfino). Machado definitely needs some run, especially as morey knows how productive he was in the preseason.
#62
Posted 06 November 2012 - 11:51 PM
you can only warn a man that the bridge is out.....if he keeps driving he's on his own
#63
Posted 07 November 2012 - 12:17 AM
I keep hearing this about parsons (he does the little things well). what little things? he an ok rebounder, doesn't get many steals, plays slightly above average defense, doesn't set screens, shoots scappy three's when driving is his real asset, doesn't get many assist, a decent passer. so exactly what little things are you talking about? when you get pass rebounding, scoring, getting steals, blocking shots and getting assist what else is there?
It's less about the skills in and of themselves, and more about the context in which he does them. He's got a great nose for the ball coming off the rim that allows him to get to the right position to grab the board often (hence why he was able to get all those tip jams at the start of last year). Knowing that he's able to pick up the boards from the SF position makes it a lot easier for the other front court players to concentrate on blocking out their man, and tips the balance towards us having good control of the defensive glass.
That synergises well with his handle, which allows him to kick off the break well if he picks up the rebound. He's already thrown several spectacular passes in transition so far this year (one in particular to Morris in the opening game was sublime), which is a great asset as it substantially increases the number of opportunities that Houston have to run. And when he doesn't have the ball in his hands on the fast break he tends to run the floor well, which improves our efficiency substantially in that area (or at least it would if Lin wasn't such a poor decision maker in that aspect of the game).
Defensively, I'd say he's more than just 'slightly above average'. His one-on-one defence is extremely solid, which is very valuable when playing against teams with an elite wing player. I can't recall seeing better defence on Kobe than Parsons played when we met the Lakers last year, for example. In addition, he tends to have a good understanding of where to be when he's off the ball - you often see him in good help position threatening the double team when the ball is in the post. That doesn't necessarily equate to anything that shows up in the stat sheet, but it does have an effect on the game.
In the half court, his career numbers from three aren't great, it's true. But he shot 36% from three after the all star break last year, which shows he is certainly capable of good enough shooting from the corner to be a threat. When that's on, it dovetails nicely with his slashing game - he's deceptively quick at curling to the hoop off the dribble, which makes it harder to close out on him, and his cutting is especially useful given that Lin, Harden and to a degree Asik are good at finding the slashers for baskets. Helps that his finishing at the rim is solid as well, so you can count on him for that.
So yeah, he does all that. It's a not insignificant contribution, in my opinion. You also have to factor in that in today's NBA, with its increasingly sophisticated scouting methods, being able to field a player with no glaring weaknesses to his game is a huge plus point. For sure there are some things he can work on, but nothing that is easily exploitable at either end of the floor and that is an asset in its own right.
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#64
Posted 07 November 2012 - 04:51 AM
Horford, Aldridge and Smith are all mobile bigs with range--the most valuable commodities in the NBA behind playmakers (which we have).
Jefferson is a lane-clogging pivot who can't defend. Can you see him running pick-and-rolls with Harden?
#65
Posted 07 November 2012 - 04:53 AM
#66
Posted 07 November 2012 - 08:15 AM
totally disagree on your view of parsons. finding people who can guard wing players is not rare.....ie gay,iggy,durant,kobe,ginobly,batum. finding people who can guard wing players and score is rare. 36% from 3 point land isn't good considering how many he shoots. plus his percentage was a lot lower when you take the entire year into account. I respect your opinion, but i'm not seeing the same player you all are looking at. I didn't like battier when he was here and it appears he will become another battier. we don't need someone doing the little things we need someone who can fill out a stat sheet. I think we can do better at that position.
you can only warn a man that the bridge is out.....if he keeps driving he's on his own
#67
Posted 07 November 2012 - 07:45 PM
rockets best fan: all those players you named are getting payed huge numbers, and I truly believe that Parsons can limitate their offensive production against the Rockets, and that alone gives us a good chance of winning those games. He is only a sophomore which should only get better. Worst case scenario, he has already hit his ceiling, in which case, he is valuable as a backup SF or starter depending on the rest of your starting lineup. If you have two scorers, who are also playmakers, you don't really need another one, that would be more apropiate for the second unit (we'll be needing those points from the bench) and that's why Morris should stick on the bench. Maybe you want to kill Morey for trading Batum for Darrell Arthur and Joey Dorsey (trading Gay for Battier was Dawson's fault).
Imagine that we get some kind of offensive juggernaut at PF (maybe one of our rookies). Having Lin, Harden and that PF scoring somewhere 50-60 points a night, the best complement you can get is SF and C who can play "above average" defense, and we already have those two. So, besides backup guards, what we are lacking right now from a serious playoff contender is a PF who can put something like 20 ppg, IMO.
From anywhere you all like to see it, we are in a good place now, even if our young players don't turn out to be what we expect from them, we are well positioned to shuffle up and deal again to build around Harden (right now, he's the only truly untouchable player in the roster). Most of us were all on board with rebuilding, now that we got Harden, let's not get too greedy. Let's be patient with this team, we have plenty of time to see what works and what doesn't before the trade deadline.
Be optimistic, fellas we are heading in the right direction for the first time in several years.
#68
Posted 07 November 2012 - 09:17 PM
Be optimistic, fellas we are heading in the right direction for the first time in several years.
id agree but id also kind of disagree by saying we were never really headed backwards (in the daryl morey era). i mean we had the injuries, obviously, but i think (even though mostly minor) all of the upgrades morey has made we were more or less satisfied with at the time and they appeared to be positive moves. we were just stuck in the mud for some damn long, its nice to finally hit the jackpot of moves. granted we still need another one of these, but the monkey is off of moreys back.
#69
Posted 08 November 2012 - 12:59 AM
agreedid agree but id also kind of disagree by saying we were never really headed backwards (in the daryl morey era). i mean we had the injuries, obviously, but i think (even though mostly minor) all of the upgrades morey has made we were more or less satisfied with at the time and they appeared to be positive moves. we were just stuck in the mud for some damn long, its nice to finally hit the jackpot of moves. granted we still need another one of these, but the monkey is off of moreys back.
agreed. let me clear something up. I don't think parsons is useless. I just think we can upgrade the position and get better results.id agree but id also kind of disagree by saying we were never really headed backwards (in the daryl morey era). i mean we had the injuries, obviously, but i think (even though mostly minor) all of the upgrades morey has made we were more or less satisfied with at the time and they appeared to be positive moves. we were just stuck in the mud for some damn long, its nice to finally hit the jackpot of moves. granted we still need another one of these, but the monkey is off of moreys back.
you can only warn a man that the bridge is out.....if he keeps driving he's on his own
#70
Posted 08 November 2012 - 03:33 AM
#71
Posted 08 November 2012 - 03:37 AM
#72
Posted 24 November 2012 - 07:43 PM
#73
Posted 24 November 2012 - 09:16 PM
This is who I'd be targetting, if they can do it without trading Parsons/Harden/Asik. Gasol would make this team competitive in the West. While they wouldn't be contenders, it'd be a great stop gap solution until other FA's are on the market when he comes off the books in 2 years.Seems Like Pau Gasol does not currently fit D'Antoni's system http://espn.go.com/l...e-touches-post. He could fit very well with Asik, we know the Rockets love him, and the Lakers need to shed salaries. Maybe...
#74
Posted 25 November 2012 - 01:57 AM
Lamarcus Aldridge, Kevin Love
#75
Posted 26 November 2012 - 05:34 PM
Imagine Asik and Love in the front court along with Parsons, Harden, and Lin (for now). That's elite offense at the 2 and 4 position paired with elite defense at the 3 and 5. As long as Lin plays efficiently we are a scary team.
EDIT: just saw Love can't jump ship until 2015. Not sure Rockets will wait that long. : (
#76
Posted 26 November 2012 - 08:47 PM
This is who I'd be targetting, if they can do it without trading Parsons/Harden/Asik. Gasol would make this team competitive in the West. While they wouldn't be contenders, it'd be a great stop gap solution until other FA's are on the market when he comes off the books in 2 years.
i wouldnt mind gasol but yeah i agree definitely not worth it if it involves getting rid of any of our top players. id say maybe patterson/douglas or something along that lines, he doesnt have the value anymore to warrant a big name for him
#77
Posted 27 November 2012 - 12:23 AM
i wouldnt mind gasol but yeah i agree definitely not worth it if it involves getting rid of any of our top players. id say maybe patterson/douglas or something along that lines, he doesnt have the value anymore to warrant a big name for him
The Lakers have been so good at bringing back value in their trades that it has completely distorted expectations in the trade market for them. Whenever I see Gasol trades being discussed, what people are expecting in return for him seems absurd given his age and the size of his contract. They're definitely not going to be getting players that actually improve their starting lineup at this point (eg. you can forget Josh Smith for Gasol and that sort of thing). Your suggestion is more the sort of level I'm expecting (and hoping) that other teams would put out for him.
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#78
Posted 27 November 2012 - 04:28 AM
#79
Posted 27 November 2012 - 03:38 PM
Starting Lineup-
J-Lin
Harden
Parsons
Asik/D-MO
Smith/Jefferson/Milsapp
Secondary-
Veteran PG
JJ Reddick
Patterson
Morris
Delfino
Machado
Cook
Douglas
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