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[Fury]

Isaiah Canaan is putting up 20.8 ppg, 9.8 apg, and 4 rbg during his time thus far on the Rio Grande Valley Vipers. He is shooting 40% from 3, 43% from the floor, and his shot chart is like a Morey wet dream. This article goes so far as to suggest that he be called up already: 

http://spacecityscoo...aan-ready-call/

 

In the meantime, Aaron Brooks is posting 17.4 points and 4.2 assists per 36 minutes. His PER is a respectable 16.5. He is posting .132 WS/48, the gaudiest number of his career, and his TS% is 59.7, again the best of his career. (Stats courtesy of Basketball-Reference)

 

Given that Canaan fills much of the same role as Brooks as a score-first PG, isn't it time to start shopping around for a trade involving Brooks? This is especially true given the fact the Brooks is only making $884,293 this year.

 

Better yet, we should use Brooks as a trade chip in any deal including Asik. Between the two of them, we could get quite the package back. I wager that we would not miss a beat with Canaan replacing Brooks, and getting the rookie some NBA experience wouldn't be the worst thing for his development.

 

Thoughts?

[Chai]

You're comparing competition in the NBA and the D-League... I don't think much more needs to be said.

[Cooper]

I don't think the market for brooks on his own Is very big, probably as a throw in with asik he would sweeten the pot. But the earliest I would expect a move would be around the deadline and perhaps Canaan tapers off a bit and it's wiser to keep brooks around.

[timetodienow1234567]

Lol at Brooks. Maybe a late second rounder or foreign player.

[Fury]

Lol at Brooks. Maybe a late second rounder or foreign player.

 

Last year, I would have been LOL-ing right along with you, but facts are facts. He has an above average PER, and his other advanced stats are the best that they've been in his entire career, including his MIP season.

[Fury]

You're comparing competition in the NBA and the D-League... I don't think much more needs to be said.

 

To that, I'd say that domination in the D-League indicates that he'd do perfectly fine as the 3rd PG on the depth chart. I'm not asking him to be CP3. I'm not even asking him to be Patrick Beverley. All that Canaan would have to do is provide a scoring punch off the bench when needed, and he has clearly shown that he can do so.

[Fury]

I don't think the market for brooks on his own Is very big, probably as a throw in with asik he would sweeten the pot. But the earliest I would expect a move would be around the deadline and perhaps Canaan tapers off a bit and it's wiser to keep brooks around.

 

I would agree that Brooks alone probably doesn't bring much more than a pick. The only exception would be a team like the Bulls that is currently desperate for a PG. I would absolutely agree that he needs to be sweetener in an Asik deal. Rumor is that we are asking for two 1st round picks in an Asik deal. If we include Brooks, I think we can swing that.

 

With Canaan playing like he has down in the Valley, Brooks is a luxury. Morey and company have proven that they can scout with the best of them. If Brooks can get us an extra draft pick in an Asik deal, it will be more than worth it.

[rockets best fan]

You're comparing competition in the NBA and the D-League... I don't think much more needs to be said.

I'm more in tune with this. besides Brooks has a no trade clause in his contract. I believe we have a gem in Canaan, but he needs development. he is not ready for the NBA.

[datruth]

Man keep Brooks and get rid of Beverly.

[rockets best fan]

Man keep Brooks and get rid of Beverly.

WHAT? totally disagree

[RollingWave]

Funny enough, Brooks (and Garica) actually have a no trade clause. something in the CBA about resigning guys with bird rights on small deal

 

http://www.hoopsrumo...eto-trades.html

 

Of our role guys I'd figure the liklihood of getting trade is probably Brewer >= Dmo >> Smith >>>>> Casppi >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anyone else.

 

As for Canaan, the funny thing is his likely outcome is essentially Aaron Brooks.   The Vipers are trying some really interesting things down there though, they're chucking up 3s like no tomorrow.

 

Brooks is shooting .47%(!!!!) from 3s, there's no way Canaan can approach that (or Brooks for that matter.)   I see no reason to  believe he's the problem at this point, he's probably the best 3rd PG in the league by a pretty comfortable margin.

Edited by RollingWave, 05 December 2013 - 12:54 AM.

[blakecouey]

Too early.  It's 5 games(regular season) into the Vipers season.  That's really all that needs to be said,

 

 

Brooks is a fan favorite, and he seems to love playing here and having an opportunity to be on a contender(by taking less money to stick with us), so he isn't going anywhere.

[HazeWinkle]

Kevin Mchale hates playing rookies

[thenit]

What's the point of bringing the kid up? When Lin comes back in a week, and even in a trade of brooks, he will only see spot minutes barring injuries or blowouts. You are better off keeping him in the d league for pro experience and playing time.

[Chai]

To that, I'd say that domination in the D-League indicates that he'd do perfectly fine as the 3rd PG on the depth chart. I'm not asking him to be CP3. I'm not even asking him to be Patrick Beverley. All that Canaan would have to do is provide a scoring punch off the bench when needed, and he has clearly shown that he can do so.

 

If you also looked at his stats, you'd notice severe TO problem (3.2 TO per game, 2 and 6 in the last 2 games respectively when he's been shooting well). If he's having that many problems with TO with lesser competition, there's no way he can be a competent floor leader in real games, at least not now

[HazeWinkle]

If you also looked at his stats, you'd notice severe TO problem (3.2 TO per game, 2 and 6 in the last 2 games respectively when he's been shooting well). If he's having that many problems with TO with lesser competition, there's no way he can be a competent floor leader in real games, at least not now

Then he should fit in with this team because Rockets are good at turning over the ball

[Steven]

Trade Lin and Brooks. Start Canaan and bring Beverly off the bench.

[tombrokeoff]

dont think any of bev, lin, or brooks need to go anywhere until we actually get to see some of canaan in the league or we get a PG in return for the trade made.  just my 2c.

[Buckko]

Time for the logic man to come in. Brooks has a no trade clause so that kills the initial topic, but he's the best 3rd string PG in the league any way. Canaan needs experience not bench warming so keep him in the D-league for at least this season. Done. 

[datruth]

 rocket best fan,

I have been trying to find a worst starting point guard than Beverly.

Beverly plays 31 minutes or more a game.

Averages about 2 assists a game.

A limited playmaker and ball handler.

Averages 1.3 steals a night.

Shoots 40 % from the floor.

Shoots 35 %from 3.

The positive is he rebounds, but often we lose or give up  points because our pg is trying to get rebounds.

I'm open please give me a few starting pgs that play the minutes Beverly plays that are worst in the NBA.