Does Signing Camby Mean Houston’s Trading Aşık?

With the provocative headline out of the way, here’s the answer: no. It’s not sexy, it’s not dramatic and it’s not juicy. The Houston Rockets have signed veteran center Marcus Camby to a veteran minimum, one year deal, and it’s not a precursor to other moves. Camby likes the Rockets and the Rockets like Camby. As August approaches and the NBA off-season becomes increasingly boring, any crumb of drama will be snapped up. But there’s no drama in Houston today.

Lots of people, primarily outside of Rockets-land, have been asking out loud whether Ömer Aşık is about to get moved now that Camby is in the mix. It’s certainly true that Marcus Camby has been and still is one of the most effective rebounders in the NBA. His defense is still quite solid and his shot is about as nonexistent as ever. At least half the league would be happy to have him as their backup center, and Houston has picked him up as injury insurance. Wouldn’t that be the kind of move Houston would make when preparing to move Ömer? Wouldn’t that be an interesting late-summer twist if they did? How exciting!

But if you’ve been living in Rockets-land, this is just another Monday. It would be interesting for the NBA world if a blockbuster trade was forthcoming, but this isn’t a sign of one. Camby has a home in Pearland, a Houston suburb. He had played worthwhile minutes on a less-than-worthwhile Rockets team a couple seasons ago. Houston likes him and he likes Houston.  He didn’t want to sit on the bench for a non-contender in Toronto, but was content to do so for a sort-of contender in New York. It’s hard to imagine Houston’s pitch to him being very difficult. Everything was in place for him to sign a veteran minimum deal in Houston and provide that ineffable “veteran leadership.”

So, no, nothing about this screams “Ömer Aşık is traded” any more than signing Aaron Brooks signaled a Patrick Beverley or Jeremy Lin trade. The Rockets are a team that likes to have quality players all the way down the roster, and a team that seems able to re-sign players years down the line. Houston’s roster may look complete, but if Chase Budinger or Chuck Hayes somehow became available for the veteran’s minimum, they’d pounce in a heartbeat. There may be a logjam at the bottom of the bench, but that’s a good problem to have, especially once some players suffer injuries.

Of course, there’s every chance Rockets general manager Daryl Morey will make a fool of me and trade Aşık next week. Morey isn’t afraid to rock the boat in the interest of winning a championship, and he’d easily pull the trigger on anything that he judged to be “the right deal.” But that’s unrelated to this signing. Bringing Camby in was a move in and of itself. He improves the team’s chances, even if only slightly. Don’t read too much into it, even if a later trade makes that oh-so-tempting.

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Total comments: 84
  • rockets best fan says 8 months ago

    RBF - the Warriors and Grizz have the talent, but they will be facing their own trials and tribulations this season. The Grizz have to adapt to a new coach (after the team was built around Hollins' ideology!), and the Warriors have made a bunch of strange moves this off-season (why the hell did they get Iggy when Barnes was playing better than Iggy was?). I really don't think they are a lock for the post-season.

    And with Jennings going to DET, we can forget a 3-way trade between Portland and Detroit. :)

    got to admit that golden state's move left me scratching my head. seems j-jack and Landry would have been better pieces to me. they think they can play a lot of small ball I guess. I agree the grizz will take a step back, but are likely to keep running the same system with only minor changes this year which is why I think they will still have to be dealt with at some point

    as for the detroit issue........now the bucks are without a good point guard. not that jenning was all that and a bag of chips in the first place :lol:

  • timetodienow1234567 says 8 months ago

    Dirk is still a superstar offensively. Dalembert is an upgrade over Kaman. Ellis is an upgrade over Mayo. Calderon is an upgrade over their previous trash PGs. They also picked up a backup PF in Blair. They still have veteran leadership that will make the new guys buy into the system in Dallas. If they stay healthy they will make some noise come playoff time. They don't have enough to win it all, but can they pull off an upset? Yes. I wouldn't want to play them in the first round, that's for sure.

  • Freebird says 8 months ago

    I don't know.............never count Dirk out. I thought they were pretty bad talent wise last year. plus Dirk was out for a good slice of the season, yet they were still hanging around in the last month or so in contention for the last playoff spot. this year they may actually be a little better than last year

    Agree - healthy Dirk == better-than-average playoff chances

  • Freebird says 8 months ago

    RBF - the Warriors and Grizz have the talent, but they will be facing their own trials and tribulations this season. The Grizz have to adapt to a new coach (after the team was built around Hollins' ideology!), and the Warriors have made a bunch of strange moves this off-season (why the hell did they get Iggy when Barnes was playing better than Iggy was?). I really don't think they are a lock for the post-season.

    And with Jennings going to DET, we can forget a 3-way trade between Portland and Detroit. :)

  • rockets best fan says 8 months ago

    In the East. Unfortunatly the Mavs play in the West and will miss the playoffs yet again.

    I don't know.............never count Dirk out. I thought they were pretty bad talent wise last year. plus Dirk was out for a good slice of the season, yet they were still hanging around in the last month or so in contention for the last playoff spot. this year they may actually be a little better than last year

  • Steven says 8 months ago

    PG = Calderon
    SG = Ellis
    SF = Marion
    PF = Dirk
    C = Dalembert
    6TH = Carter

    That's a playoff team under Carlisle if they're healthy.

    In the East. Unfortunatly the Mavs play in the West and will miss the playoffs yet again.
  • rockets best fan says 8 months ago

    So you believe that smith will improve but not Lin. Interesting.

    I believe Lin may improve marginally and I don't believe G-Smith is star caliber. however Lin plays at a stacked position in the league.......G-Smith not as much. sure their are good to excellent PF's....not as many as good to excellent PG's though

  • Buckko says 8 months ago


    that's matter of opinion.......I think we will be surprised at the development of D-Mo, T-Jones and G-Smith this year

    So you believe that smith will improve but not Lin. Interesting.
  • rockets best fan says 8 months ago

    No good ones

    that's matter of opinion.......I think we will be surprised at the development of D-Mo, T-Jones and G-Smith this year

  • timetodienow1234567 says 8 months ago

    panic over who will play backup center is unfounded.....we have plenty of options to play center in a pinch


    No good ones
  • rockets best fan says 8 months ago

    That's why I'm so determine on keeping asik should Dwight do down.

    panic over who will play backup center is unfounded.....we have plenty of options to play center in a pinch

  • rockets best fan says 8 months ago

    Another factor is the word we all fear--injury. Last year saw plenty of teams' seasons go up in smoke in a matter of seconds. We don't know who this year's losers will be on that front, but we can count on it happening to somebody.

    Getting back on topic :lol: this is one reason signing Camby was a good move for Houston.

    I agree.....injury is the X factor, but from strictly a talent standpoint I just don't think Portland has enough to get in

  • Buckko says 8 months ago

    Another factor is the word we all fear--injury. Last year saw plenty of teams' seasons go up in smoke in a matter of seconds. We don't know who this year's losers will be on that front, but we can count on it happening to somebody.

    Getting back on topic :lol: this is one reason signing Camby was a good move for Houston.

    That's why I'm so determine on keeping asik should Dwight do down.

  • thejohnnygold says 8 months ago

    Another factor is the word we all fear--injury. Last year saw plenty of teams' seasons go up in smoke in a matter of seconds. We don't know who this year's losers will be on that front, but we can count on it happening to somebody.

    Getting back on topic :lol: this is one reason signing Camby was a good move for Houston.

  • Buckko says 8 months ago

    I agree Denver is slipping, but they won 57 games last year......even if they win10 less which I think they will that still leaves them at 47 wins and that should be enough to get in. also I'm not yet willing to write off Dallas. Dirk has carried a bunch of scrubs to the playoffs before and might be able to do it again especially with Monta in tow. it's not impossible for Portland to get in.......it's just going to be very difficult.

    Portland has a better lineup than Dallas and its fair to say LA is better than Dirk at his age. Denver's second leading scorer is also coming back from an ACL injury so i don't know if they will be a playoff lock.

  • Buckko says 8 months ago

    I think Portland is going to be better than most here are anticipating. Robin Lopez is poised to have a break out season playing alongside a much better supporting cast (nothing crazy, but very, very solid). Presuming they have average, or better, 3 pt. shooting I think Portland winds up a lower play-off seed that nobody wants to face in a 7 game series.

    The point is Aldridge is tired of losing and I think this season will cure him of that.

    Besides, by mid-season we will love our own PF's so much we won't want to trade for him :)

    I agree.

  • timetodienow1234567 says 8 months ago PG = Calderon
    SG = Ellis
    SF = Marion
    PF = Dirk
    C = Dalembert
    6TH = Carter

    That's a playoff team under Carlisle if they're healthy.
  • rockets best fan says 8 months ago

    That's fair. I think Denver is on a slippery slope right now. They lost a lot in George Karl and Iguodala. I think they wind up falling short this season.

    I agree Denver is slipping, but they won 57 games last year......even if they win10 less which I think they will that still leaves them at 47 wins and that should be enough to get in. also I'm not yet willing to write off Dallas. Dirk has carried a bunch of scrubs to the playoffs before and might be able to do it again especially with Monta in tow. it's not impossible for Portland to get in.......it's just going to be very difficult.

  • thejohnnygold says 8 months ago

    That's fair. I think Denver is on a slippery slope right now. They lost a lot in George Karl and Iguodala. I think they wind up falling short this season.

  • rockets best fan says 8 months ago

    I think Portland is going to be better than most here are anticipating. Robin Lopez is poised to have a break out season playing alongside a much better supporting cast (nothing crazy, but very, very solid). Presuming they have average, or better, 3 pt. shooting I think Portland winds up a lower play-off seed that nobody wants to face in a 7 game series.

    The point is Aldridge is tired of losing and I think this season will cure him of that.

    Besides, by mid-season we will love our own PF's so much we won't want to trade for him :)

    I disagree...........Portland is behind the 8 ball as far as playoffs in the west. these are next years playoff teams IMO

    1. Houston

    2. Clippers

    3. Spurs

    4. OKC

    5. warriors

    6. Memphis

    the teams above are pretty much a lock. that leaves 2 spots for Denver, Minny, Dallas, the Pelicans and Portland to fight it out for. of these teams I expect Denver and Minny to win out for the last 2 spots. true Portland is better than last year, but so is almost every other team in the west. a lot depend on how Portland starts the season. if they get out of the gate slowly, they may be out of the race before Christmas.

  • thejohnnygold says 8 months ago

    I think Portland is going to be better than most here are anticipating. Robin Lopez is poised to have a break out season playing alongside a much better supporting cast (nothing crazy, but very, very solid). Presuming they have average, or better, 3 pt. shooting I think Portland winds up a lower play-off seed that nobody wants to face in a 7 game series.

    The point is Aldridge is tired of losing and I think this season will cure him of that.

    Besides, by mid-season we will love our own PF's so much we won't want to trade for him :)

  • rockets best fan says 8 months ago

    @ RollingWave

    the spurs won't have any large cap relief until after the 2014/2015 season by which time LMA will be long gone. I'm sure Dallas would love to get him, but what do they have to offer......nothing. if LMA come to Texas it will be with the Rockets

  • Buckko says 8 months ago

    I never said anything bout Lin to Detroit ;) even though he probably help them right now over Knight. but as other pointed out, as they can't give us Smith at the moment, they have nothing that we could reasonably use, sure Monroe and Drummond are great.... but exactly where are they going to play?

    Like I say , the logical trade for them involve one of Drummond or Monroe leaving, with a good PG coming back. on the surface right now, Rondo seem like the only logical candidate. but if the season move along and situations change, who knows. I bring up the Portland example as a trade that would actually make sense for Portland if they were in rebuild mode... trade Lillard while his value is high. Lillard is interesting, but people need to realize he plays no D, and even in the best case he's not a guy that can carry a team like a super star, Drummond might though. and really it's always more logical to build around a big, everything else being the same.and more over the Blazers probably already have Lillard's replacement on their roster, aka CJ McCollum, I can't see them play both significantly if CJ turns out to be good (which seems likely. albeit like Lillard, with limitations.) . sure they can use one as the 3rd guard, but that won't make any sense if they're rebuilding.

    Monroe's D isn't great. but Smith kinda covers that. and at this point he's probably more reliable than Drummond in terms of being able to stay on the floor.

    With Drummond + Charlie V for Lillard + Batum, that is a very logical move for both side IF Detroit might make it but Portland can't. you get a very very good building piece in Drummond, while Detroit covers BOTH their weak spots. a lineup of Lillard / KCP / Batum / Monroe / Smith is pretty clearly playoff material in the east.

    Then they look to move LMA for whatever is the best deal on the table. presumably basing around a Wing player. but maybe also a lot of high picks. we can offer the former, but we won't obviously.

    Also noting once again, the Spurs are the Texas team with huge cap space going forward. and LMA went to college in Austin, meanwhile, he was actually born in Dallas. so if anything, the Rockets are the weakest Texas connection of the 3, granted, it has the best outlook going forward, but if LMA joins the Spurs for example, that could really change.

    Even though I'm against a LA trade that involves getting rid of half our team, once a Texan boy, always a Texan boy.

  • Cooper says 8 months ago

    Well, I can think of at least one...remember Deron Williams a few years ago? The Jazz got a HUGE haul for him, IIRC.

    ST

    Didnt melo have a year left when he whined his way to NYK?
  • RollingWave says 8 months ago

    I never said anything bout Lin to Detroit ;) even though he probably help them right now over Knight. but as other pointed out, as they can't give us Smith at the moment, they have nothing that we could reasonably use, sure Monroe and Drummond are great.... but exactly where are they going to play?

    Like I say , the logical trade for them involve one of Drummond or Monroe leaving, with a good PG coming back. on the surface right now, Rondo seem like the only logical candidate. but if the season move along and situations change, who knows. I bring up the Portland example as a trade that would actually make sense for Portland if they were in rebuild mode... trade Lillard while his value is high. Lillard is interesting, but people need to realize he plays no D, and even in the best case he's not a guy that can carry a team like a super star, Drummond might though. and really it's always more logical to build around a big, everything else being the same.and more over the Blazers probably already have Lillard's replacement on their roster, aka CJ McCollum, I can't see them play both significantly if CJ turns out to be good (which seems likely. albeit like Lillard, with limitations.) . sure they can use one as the 3rd guard, but that won't make any sense if they're rebuilding.

    Monroe's D isn't great. but Smith kinda covers that. and at this point he's probably more reliable than Drummond in terms of being able to stay on the floor.

    With Drummond + Charlie V for Lillard + Batum, that is a very logical move for both side IF Detroit might make it but Portland can't. you get a very very good building piece in Drummond, while Detroit covers BOTH their weak spots. a lineup of Lillard / KCP / Batum / Monroe / Smith is pretty clearly playoff material in the east.

    Then they look to move LMA for whatever is the best deal on the table. presumably basing around a Wing player. but maybe also a lot of high picks. we can offer the former, but we won't obviously.

    Also noting once again, the Spurs are the Texas team with huge cap space going forward. and LMA went to college in Austin, meanwhile, he was actually born in Dallas. so if anything, the Rockets are the weakest Texas connection of the 3, granted, it has the best outlook going forward, but if LMA joins the Spurs for example, that could really change.

  • Sir Thursday says 8 months ago

    However, in the history of the NBA, there are very, very few situations where a star player was traded 1 1/2 years before he became an unrestricted free agent and thus leaving his team with nada ala D12 and the Lakers. I do believe Aldridge joining the Rockets makes a lot of sense for both Aldridge and the Rockets. I just don't see that happening this upcoming season.

    Well, I can think of at least one...remember Deron Williams a few years ago? The Jazz got a HUGE haul for him, IIRC.

    ST

  • Ostrow says 8 months ago

    teams would put 5 people in the paint and dare them to shoot

  • Buckko says 8 months ago

    Who would score on that team?

    Rondo and smith need to work on jumpers, but they can both score and when Drummond learns a post game, he will become an animal. But they might be unstoppable on defense.

  • Ostrow says 8 months ago

    Who would score on that team?

  • Buckko says 8 months ago

    I just don't see Detroit acquiring another PG right now. They just signed Chauncey Billups and Will Bynum earlier this month. I don't think Detroit is quite ready to give up on Brandon Knight, his salary slot is too valuable for his talent level. However, if Knight starts off the season the same as he played last season, they might trade away a Knight for another PG. I just don't see Knight being more valuable as a Rocket than Lin. Also, Detroit drafted Peyton Siva and they also have Rodney Stuckey. They have like 5 point guards right now!

    Other than Chauncey Billups, I don't see any of the Detroit PG's as a replacement were they to accept Lin. For sure Detroit will have to move a couple of their PG's were they to agree to taking Lin.

    Lastly, I don't see Billups going anywhere. He's about done, and this could very well be his swan song year in the NBA.

    I want to see a brandon knight, greg monroe, picks for rondo trade. Probably be a three team trade but imagine a new super power in the east with smith, Drummond, and rondo.

  • rocketrick says 8 months ago

    Re: Detroit, that might make sense, but I figure they want a PG more than a PF at this point. Smith is really more 4 than 3. But Brandon Knight really not done much in his 2 years so far. he score a little but been pretty terrible at everything else (well other than being on the wrong end of posters ) .  he's more of a 3rd guard than a starting PG at this point.

    The deeper problem though is that Detroit don't have a pick to trade this year, they haven next year's pick I guess. but having both Aldridge and Smith on big money deal seem to be ..... not optimal. but this is Detroit, they're one of the most random team in the NBA, constantly having a couple of great thing in between a bunch of horrible.

    I think for them, trading Monroe for Rondo might be the more logical path. granted, having Rondo and Smith is kinda hilarious too (two super athletic guys that do everything well except that they can't shoot to save their lives.).

    Purely in terms of Det to Por trade though, on paper the deal that wold actually make sense if they want to rebuild may actually be Lillard + Batum for Drummond + filler (probably Charlie V.). This would assume that they can convince LMA to stay and CJ McCollum look as good as promised. well hell even if LMA leave if they can get Drummond they probably should, I'd figure Lillard's trade value will never be higher.

    I have a strange feeling that LMA will end up in Texas... but not on the Rockets... the Spurs... if they really want to pull a trade, have some serious possibilities .( I figure Danny Green is so overrated at this point he's a huge trade asset.)

    I just don't see Detroit acquiring another PG right now. They just signed Chauncey Billups and Will Bynum earlier this month. I don't think Detroit is quite ready to give up on Brandon Knight, his salary slot is too valuable for his talent level. However, if Knight starts off the season the same as he played last season, they might trade away a Knight for another PG. I just don't see Knight being more valuable as a Rocket than Lin. Also, Detroit drafted Peyton Siva and they also have Rodney Stuckey. They have like 5 point guards right now!

    Other than Chauncey Billups, I don't see any of the Detroit PG's as a replacement were they to accept Lin. For sure Detroit will have to move a couple of their PG's were they to agree to taking Lin.

    Lastly, I don't see Billups going anywhere. He's about done, and this could very well be his swan song year in the NBA.
  • rockets best fan says 8 months ago

    Re: Detroit, that might make sense, but I figure they want a PG more than a PF at this point. Smith is really more 4 than 3. But Brandon Knight really not done much in his 2 years so far. he score a little but been pretty terrible at everything else (well other than being on the wrong end of posters ) .  he's more of a 3rd guard than a starting PG at this point.
    The deeper problem though is that Detroit don't have a pick to trade this year, they haven next year's pick I guess. but having both Aldridge and Smith on big money deal seem to be ..... not optimal. but this is Detroit, they're one of the most random team in the NBA, constantly having a couple of great thing in between a bunch of horrible.
    I think for them, trading Monroe for Rondo might be the more logical path. granted, having Rondo and Smith is kinda hilarious too (two super athletic guys that do everything well except that they can't shoot to save their lives.).
    Purely in terms of Det to Por trade though, on paper the deal that wold actually make sense if they want to rebuild may actually be Lillard + Batum for Drummond + filler (probably Charlie V.). This would assume that they can convince LMA to stay and CJ McCollum look as good as promised. well hell even if LMA leave if they can get Drummond they probably should, I'd figure Lillard's trade value will never be higher.
    I have a strange feeling that LMA will end up in Texas... but not on the Rockets... the Spurs... if they really want to pull a trade, have some serious possibilities .( I figure Danny Green is so overrated at this point he's a huge trade asset.)

    I agree Detroit needs a PG. which is why a trade with Portland is unlikely

  • RollingWave says 8 months ago
    Re: Detroit, that might make sense, but I figure they want a PG more than a PF at this point. Smith is really more 4 than 3. But Brandon Knight really not done much in his 2 years so far. he score a little but been pretty terrible at everything else (well other than being on the wrong end of posters ) .  he's more of a 3rd guard than a starting PG at this point.
    The deeper problem though is that Detroit don't have a pick to trade this year, they haven next year's pick I guess. but having both Aldridge and Smith on big money deal seem to be ..... not optimal. but this is Detroit, they're one of the most random team in the NBA, constantly having a couple of great thing in between a bunch of horrible.
    I think for them, trading Monroe for Rondo might be the more logical path. granted, having Rondo and Smith is kinda hilarious too (two super athletic guys that do everything well except that they can't shoot to save their lives.).
    Purely in terms of Det to Por trade though, on paper the deal that wold actually make sense if they want to rebuild may actually be Lillard + Batum for Drummond + filler (probably Charlie V.). This would assume that they can convince LMA to stay and CJ McCollum look as good as promised. well hell even if LMA leave if they can get Drummond they probably should, I'd figure Lillard's trade value will never be higher.
    I have a strange feeling that LMA will end up in Texas... but not on the Rockets... the Spurs... if they really want to pull a trade, have some serious possibilities .( I figure Danny Green is so overrated at this point he's a huge trade asset.)
  • rockets best fan says 8 months ago

    I thought I had Morey figured out for once. I was wrong... again. The man is always making moves. I believe Asik will be traded nowhttp://houstonbias.blogspot.com/2013/07/marcus-camby-signs-1-year-deal-with.html

    WELCOME to the forum.......I like your avatar and I agree with your point

  • rockets best fan says 8 months ago

    Portland should listen to and seriously consider trade offers that benefit them and I'm pretty sure they know how the trade game is played in the NBA. But really, just exactly how many top players were traded 1 1/2 - 2 years before they became an unrestricted free agent? I remember Deron Williams being surprisingly traded by the Jazz to the Nets but can't remember for sure if that was early in his last season with Utah or not. Then Sloan quit as Head Coach. Utah hasn't been the same since Williams and Sloan departed.

    Carmelo got excellent return for the Nuggets right at the trade deadline in his last season with Denver. Aldridge is a hot commodity in the NBA and I just don't see his trade value slipping were Portland to play their cards close to the vest for another season.

    I think you have a point. I think a lot of teams have learned a lesson from some of the recent movement. the mood now is to be proactive rather than reactive

  • rocketrick says 8 months ago

    true Portland has beefed up their bench, but the west is a lot tougher than last year. they may still be below being a playoff lock. the level of improvement is what LMA will be interested in

    For sure Portland is going to have a really tough time getting to the playoffs this season. They definitely have some nice players though to go with Aldridge including Lillard, McCollum, Matthews, & Batum. Their main question marks appear to me to be whether if Dorrell Wright come back from his injury and how effective Robin Lopez,Meyers Leonardand Thomas Robinson will be on their frontline. Portland looks really weak to me with theirfrontcourt players other than Aldridge. Certainly a great situation for Thomas Robinson to sink or swim thisseason.

  • Buckko says 8 months ago

    I thought I had Morey figured out for once. I was wrong... again. The man is always making moves. I believe Asik will be traded nowhttp://houstonbias.blogspot.com/2013/07/marcus-camby-signs-1-year-deal-with.html

    It would be a hard trade to make a trade to get aldrige, but Ryan Anderson doesn't make sense when we already have 3 stretch 4s in Jones, Demo, and Parsons.

  • rocketrick says 8 months ago

    you think Portland will wait until this season is over making their possible trading chip just a rental, which might drive down their offers?

    Portland should listen to and seriously consider trade offers that benefit them and I'm pretty sure they know how the trade game is played in the NBA. But really, just exactly how many top players were traded 1 1/2 - 2 years before they became an unrestricted free agent? I remember Deron Williams being surprisingly traded by the Jazz to the Nets but can't remember for sure if that was early in his last season with Utah or not. Then Sloan quit as Head Coach. Utah hasn't been the same since Williams and Sloan departed.

    Carmelo got excellent return for the Nuggets right at the trade deadline in his last season with Denver. Aldridge is a hot commodity in the NBA and I just don't see his trade value slipping were Portland to play their cards close to the vest for another season.

  • rockets best fan says 8 months ago

    LA only said he wants a trade if the team doesn't improve. Portland has definitely upgraded their roster and I predict a playoff berth which means Ripcity's chances of re-signing aldrige might be higher than most expect.

    true Portland has beefed up their bench, but the west is a lot tougher than last year. they may still be below being a playoff lock. the level of improvement is what LMA will be interested in

  • rockets best fan says 8 months ago

    My best bet Hawks, Bulls, and maybe the clippers. You just have to understand they have trade chips far more valuable to Portland than houston does.

    now that's fantasy........the bulls already told Portland no. the Hawks don't have anyone but Horford and you dang sure ain't about to get him and who do the clippers have........you're not getting Blake or Paul and I don't think Portland would be to excited about the rest. I think you just don't want the Rockets involved and that fact has rendered you unable to see it objectively. sure the NBA landscape can always change, but right now no one can match our offer with something their willing to give up

  • Buckko says 8 months ago

    you think Portland will wait until this season is over making their possible trading chip just a rental, which might drive down their offers?

    LA only said he wants a trade if the team doesn't improve. Portland has definitely upgraded their roster and I predict a playoff berth which means Ripcity's chances of re-signing aldrige might be higher than most expect.

  • rockets best fan says 8 months ago

    However, in the history of the NBA, there are very, very few situations where a star player was traded 1 1/2 years before he became an unrestricted free agent and thus leaving his team with nada ala D12 and the Lakers. I do believe Aldridge joining the Rockets makes a lot of sense for both Aldridge and the Rockets. I just don't see that happening this upcoming season.

    you think Portland will wait until this season is over making their possible trading chip just a rental, which might drive down their offers?

  • Buckko says 8 months ago

    who....WHO? can offer something better than us and at the same time willing to give it up? you keep saying that put some other teams out there and what they can and will offer in trade lets see if their offer is better

    My best bet Hawks, Bulls, and maybe the clippers. You just have to understand they have trade chips far more valuable to Portland than houston does.

  • rocketrick says 8 months ago

    I agree they don't have to rush, but they will resolve the issue one way or another. LMA may change his mind if they win early if not they will move to trade him, but they will not allow this season to pass because they lose some of their bargaining power. which mean they will resolve it by the trade deadline at the very latest

    However, in the history of the NBA, there are very, very few situations where a star player was traded 1 1/2 years before he became an unrestricted free agent and thus leaving his team with nada ala D12 and the Lakers. I do believe Aldridge joining the Rockets makes a lot of sense for both Aldridge and the Rockets. I just don't see that happening this upcoming season.

  • rocketrick says 8 months ago

    I actually meant to say "the Rockets are in perfect position to be able to POUNCE on the unexpected."

  • rockets best fan says 8 months ago

    My opinion, for whatever it's worth, is that patience is a great virtue for the Rockets and Morey to have for the next few months at least. Who knows which teams will implode and what players that might be a really nice fit for the Rockets might become available until after the season has kicked in?. Perhaps by January there will be a couple of unexpected teams that are imploding and who become willing to move key players to start over and re-build. The Rockets are in perfect position to be able to trounce on the unexpected. Only time will tell.

    I agree with thisstatement

  • rockets best fan says 8 months ago

    However, Portland does not have to rush moving Aldridge. He is signed through the end of the 2014-15 season. I believe much like Morey has the advantage at the moment with Asik and Lin, Portland also has the advantage by not having or needing to move Aldridge right away.

    I agree they don't have to rush, but they will resolve the issue one way or another. LMA may change his mind if they win early if not they will move to trade him, but they will not allow this season to pass because they lose some of their bargaining power. which mean they will resolve it by the trade deadline at the very latest

  • rocketrick says 8 months ago

    one man's fantasy may become everyone's reality :Pwe have already been over what Asik means to them and involving a3rd team totake onLin to net other assets.........offer some facts to support your point of view instead of only expressing your opinion.......just because you don't want it to happen has no bearing on whether it will happen or not........support your opinion with something. I have given you reasons why what I am telling you can happen tell me why (outside of your opinion) it can't

    My opinion, for whatever it's worth, is that patience is a great virtue for the Rockets and Morey to have for the next few months at least. Who knows which teams will implode and what players that might be a really nice fit for the Rockets might become available until after the season has kicked in?. Perhaps by January there will be a couple of unexpected teams that are imploding and who become willing to move key players to start over and re-build. The Rockets are in perfect position to be able to trounce on the unexpected. Only time will tell.

  • rockets best fan says 8 months ago

    If Portland already traded a player away to get 1 center, do you think they want to trade away another(LA) for another? Other teams can offer far more than houston so it is ludicrous to even think you can have a chance in the first place.Still a fantasy without reason.

    who....WHO? can offer something better than us and at the same time willing to give it up? you keep saying that put some other teams out there and what they can and will offer in trade lets see if their offer is better

  • rocketrick says 8 months ago

    what offers? from everything I have read Portland is the one being rebuffed. they ask Chicago for Noah Chicago said no......they ask Minny about Love... Minny said no......... they ask Utah about Favors... Utah said no................so exactly what offer has been put on the table that they turned down? everybody starts off asking for more than they will realistically get. as the price comes more into our range watch for us to pull the trigger

    However, Portland does not have to rush moving Aldridge. He is signed through the end of the 2014-15 season. I believe much like Morey has the advantage at the moment with Asik and Lin, Portland also has the advantage by not having or needing to move Aldridge right away.

  • rocketrick says 8 months ago

    if Morey has shown us anything thing it's luck favors the prepared. he will move both Asik and Lin, but won't be rushed.....not until the right deal presents itself. the signing of Brooks and Camby signal two pieces in place to make him more flexible. the NBA landscape changes all the time. just like he was prepared when Harden became available he is setting the table for his next move

    I concur with RBF.

    There is absolutely no reason whatsoever for Morey and the Rockets to rush trading Asik and Lin..................unless and until the right deal presents itself. I would say February trade deadline at the very earliest for the Rockets next major move, and even then, maybe not depending on how the team is progressing, how the rotations are shaking out, etc. Having both Asik and Lin for the playoffs next season could be the best move. Only time will tell if something better comes along.

  • Buckko says 8 months ago

    one man's fantasy may become everyone's reality :Pwe have already been over what Asik means to them and involving a3rd team totake onLin to net other assets.........offer some facts to support your point of view instead of only expressing your opinion.......just because you don't want it to happen has no bearing on whether it will happen or not........support your opinion with something. I have given you reasons why what I am telling you can happen tell me why (outside of your opinion) it can't

    If Portland already traded a player away to get 1 center, do you think they want to trade away another(LA) for another? Other teams can offer far more than houston so it is ludicrous to even think you can have a chance in the first place.Still a fantasy without reason.

  • rockets best fan says 8 months ago

    that's a fantasy, you need things they want and need to get a trade done. They already have a center and PG.

    one man's fantasy may become everyone's reality :Pwe have already been over what Asik means to them and involving a3rd team totake onLin to net other assets.........offer some facts to support your point of view instead of only expressing your opinion.......just because you don't want it to happen has no bearing on whether it will happen or not........support your opinion with something. I have given you reasons why what I am telling you can happen tell me why (outside of your opinion) it can't

  • timetodienow1234567 says 8 months ago

    Monroe plays no defense and Drummond has a far better upside.

    Exactly. And that's why Detroit makes that move. Portland makes that move because Monroe is the best available player that they could get. He does play some defense as shown in the Team USA game, but it's not his strong suit. But, he's certainly no Al Jefferson.

  • Buckko says 8 months ago


    what offers? from everything I have read Portland is the one being rebuffed. they ask Chicago for Noah Chicago said no......they ask Minny about Love... Minny said no......... they ask Utah about Favors... Utah said no................so exactly what offer has been put on the table that they turned down? everybody starts off asking for more than they will realistically get. as the price comes more into our range watch for us to pull the trigger

    that's a fantasy, you need things they want and need to get a trade done. They already have a center and PG.
  • Buckko says 8 months ago


    He's almost there IMO but Detroit needs floor spacing and LA gives them that.

    Monroe plays no defense and Drummond has a far better upside.
  • Buckko says 8 months ago


    He's almost there IMO but Detroit needs floor spacing and LA gives them that.

  • Buckko says 8 months ago


    Still think we'll hang on to Aşık and Lin until they prove that last year wasn't a fluke. I expect some trade deadline movement to get one of them off the books, if not both, since that'll make next year tough on the wallet for Les. Hate to harp, but maybe KLove? Something 4-ish, depending on DMo's and Jones' progress.

    Asik carried us to the playoffs.
  • Steven says 8 months ago


    Realistic LMA trade ideas wont come around until the trade deadline or next off season. All depends on how Portland is doing and how much pressure LMA applies. Portland could still get some decent offers if LMA agrees to sign an extension with his new team, like James Harden did with us.


    No possible FA is going to sign an extension until his contract completely runs out three years vs four.
  • rockets best fan says 8 months ago

    Realistic LMA trade ideas wont come around until the trade deadline or next off season. All depends on how Portland is doing and how much pressure LMA applies. Portland could still get some decent offers if LMA agrees to sign an extension with his new team, like James Harden did with us.

    that's possible, however I think they are just waiting until right before the season so that it will not affect their season ticket sales

  • hizzobbes says 8 months ago

    Realistic LMA trade ideas wont come around until the trade deadline or next off season. All depends on how Portland is doing and how much pressure LMA applies. Portland could still get some decent offers if LMA agrees to sign an extension with his new team, like James Harden did with us.

  • rockets best fan says 8 months ago

    As long as Portland has aims to make the playoffs, they're not going to trade Aldridge unless it's for a bigger star coming back, That's basically the end of story. but given LMA's money and contract status, this seems extremely unlikely to happen.

    Value change all the time relative to need and the situation teams are in, RBF your essentially assuming Portland's willingness to trade LMA base on that they want to totally tank, which is not based on any shred of reality.

    true.......but they didn't start out last year trying to tank either, but ended the year in full tank mode. if they start poorly (which is possible) they could switch into tank modefairly quickly. or LMA could be applying pressure to be moved which might force their hand. either way they could end up trading him whether they want to or not. the longer they wait could make the offers go down because teams will only be trading for a rental if they slip and allow LMA to enter the last year of his contract. the best deals they are going to get will be offered this year and they know it. so it is doubtful they will allow the situation to linger without resolution

  • RollingWave says 8 months ago

    As long as Portland has aims to make the playoffs, they're not going to trade Aldridge unless it's for a bigger star coming back, That's basically the end of story. but given LMA's money and contract status, this seems extremely unlikely to happen.

    Value change all the time relative to need and the situation teams are in, RBF your essentially assuming Portland's willingness to trade LMA base on that they want to totally tank, which is not based on any shred of reality.

  • rockets best fan says 8 months ago

    RBF, there have been better offers that POR turned down. They want a legitimate all star in return for LA not Asik and Smith and a non lottery pick

    what offers? from everything I have read Portland is the one being rebuffed. they ask Chicago for Noah Chicago said no......they ask Minny about Love... Minny said no......... they ask Utah about Favors... Utah said no................so exactly what offer has been put on the table that they turned down? everybody starts off asking for more than they will realistically get. as the price comes more into our range watch for us to pull the trigger

  • 2016Champions says 8 months ago

    He's almost there IMO but Detroit needs floor spacing and LA gives them that.

    I agree, but I don't see how Porland can get him without giving up Aldridge in the process.

  • Freebird says 8 months ago

    Still think we'll hang on toAşık and Lin until they prove that last year wasn't a fluke. I expect some trade deadline movement to get one of them off the books, if not both, since that'll make next year tough on the wallet for Les. Hate to harp, but maybe KLove? Something 4-ish, depending on DMo's and Jones' progress.

  • timetodienow1234567 says 8 months ago

    Monroe's very underrated. In the right system with the fit of guys he is an All-Star caliber player imo. Portland is not the right fit.


    He's almost there IMO but Detroit needs floor spacing and LA gives them that.
  • 2016Champions says 8 months ago

    I think Detroit gets LA giving up Monroe.

    Monroe's very underrated. In the right system with the fit of guys he is an All-Star caliber player imo. Portland is not the right fit.

  • Buckko says 8 months ago


    Yeah there will be competitive offering for LMA we don't have the pieces to keep up.

    agreed, not only would it not be in our best interest, but we would never be able to do it in the first place. Like Lin and asik or not, they are part of our team now and in the future.
  • timetodienow1234567 says 8 months ago I think Detroit gets LA giving up Monroe.
  • Richards says 8 months ago

    Yeah there will be competitive offering for LMA we don't have the pieces to keep up.

    Very true

  • timetodienow1234567 says 8 months ago RBF, there have been better offers that POR turned down. They want a legitimate all star in return for LA not Asik and Smith and a non lottery pick
  • Cooper says 8 months ago Yeah there will be competitive offering for LMA we don't have the pieces to keep up.
  • Buckko says 8 months ago

    how about this for trade................three teams
    Houston sends asik and g-smith to Portland. Houston sends Lin to philly along with our 2014 first rounder
    Portland sends LMA to Houston
    Philly send Portland NO 2014 first rounder

    Wouldn't work, Philly are tanking and using this time to train MCW and that draft pick is vital to their reconstruction. Philly already has their PG and blazers have their center. I think an LA trade is a bad idea but we wouldn't even be able to do it in the first place when we have things nobody wants.
  • Buckko says 8 months ago


    Not much reason having a 8millon dollar backup to play behind you 20million dollar starter

    it gives us the best 1-2 punch at center and the best rim protection in the NBA. Center changes games, and if D12 gets injured and we traded asik, we are screwed.
  • rockets best fan says 8 months ago

    how about this for trade................three teams

    Houston sends asik and g-smith to Portland. Houston sends Lin to philly along with our 2014 first rounder

    Portland sends LMA to Houston

    Philly send Portland NO 2014 first rounder

  • Richards says 8 months ago

    if Morey has shown us anything thing it's luck favors the prepared. he will move both Asik and Lin, but won't be rushed.....not until the right deal presents itself. the signing of Brooks and Camby signal two pieces in place to make him more flexible. the NBA landscape changes all the time. just like he was prepared when Harden became available he is setting the table for his next move

    I think both AB and Camby received guaranteed contracts. So they won't be cut when roster is finalized.

  • Cooper says 8 months ago




    Voice of reason, Camby is just insurance and a veterans presence. He could never be D12's backup unless you are asking to get them both injured.


    Not much reason having a 8millon dollar backup to play behind you 20million dollar starter
  • rockets best fan says 8 months ago

    if Morey has shown us anything thing it's luck favors the prepared. he will move both Asik and Lin, but won't be rushed.....not until the right deal presents itself. the signing of Brooks and Camby signal two pieces in place to make him more flexible. the NBA landscape changes all the time. just like he was prepared when Harden became available he is setting the table for his next move

  • Buckko says 8 months ago

    Voice of reason, Camby is just insurance and a veterans presence. He could never be D12's backup unless you are asking to get them both injured.

  • Richards says 8 months ago

    Just seen the season tickets cover with Harden/Howard/Parsons. No Asik/Lin. Writing is on the wall. I believe Rockets brought in Lin partly because of marketing. 4 PGs, 4 Cs. Hmm Hmm

  • Sir Thursday says 8 months ago

    I appreciate the extra effort you must have gone to to get the Turkish scripting right on Ömer Aşık. It's the little things ;).

    ST

  • Richards says 8 months ago

    So Camby 3rd option, Smith 4th?

  • Cooper says 8 months ago I think trading asik was in the cards regardless