Breaking: Rockets Acquire Thomas Robinson in Multi-team Trade

According to reports from several outlets, Thomas Robinson (this year’s 5th overall pick out of Kansas) is headed to the Rockets from Sacramento, Patrick Patterson, Toney Douglas and Cole Aldrich are headed to the Kings, and Marcus Morris will reunite with his brother in Phoenix in exchange for a second round pick. Tyler Honeycutt and Francisco Garcia are also headed to Houston.

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Update: ESPN reports Rockets are also sending $1 million to the Kings.

Update – Rapid comparison of strengths weaknesses of the two headliner PF’s in this trade: Thomas Robinson averages the exact same number of rebounds as Patterson (4.7) in ten fewer minutes per game, but Patterson bests Robinson in nearly every other category–PER: 15.68 versus 10.88 , True Shooting Percentage: 57% versus 45%, and Turnover Ratio 7.4 % versus 17.3%.

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  • thejohnnygold says 1 YEAR ago

    This offers some insight

  • Ostrow says 1 YEAR ago

    It's interesting he is shooting so poorly on jumpers. if I remember correctly, he made a lot of those types of shots at Kansas. It's be interesting to know if these were post-up jumpers, shot clock winding down, or open off kick-outs. First two wouldn't worry me so much, not a lot of those coming his way in Hou. Catch and shoot though would cause some issues. But, considering he made them at Kansas it, hopefully, is a confidence problem, lack of playing time problem.

  • thejohnnygold says 1 YEAR ago

    I wanted to post this in response to today's daily blast, but here will do.

    If we are going to keep TRob there is concern about his height and shooting. I was looking at the break downs of his shooting and I like what I see. He has connected on 10 out of 23 on "tip" shots. That's not great, but looking at the statistic itself I am pleased. In his limited minutes the guy is getting in the paint and getting his hands on offensive rebounds. Now, I cannot speak for the quality of these touches, but with a little more experience and coaching he could easily become a force on the offensive glass converting 60% of these.

    Looking at lay-ups he is 35-79 (ouch!). That's rough. Still, I see lack of experience and coaching at fault moreso than size. The guy is getting to the rim, but hasn't learned yet how to finish. With his long arms, explosive legs and big base he should have no trouble creating space and converting these--I am guessing it is a technique problem.

    Combining those two stats you get 45-102...a hair under 45%. He is 17-24 on dunks. I have no idea how to explain this....Again, experience and coaching should fix this. So now we are at 52-126 fgm. He has taken 243 fg's all year....

    On hook shots, he is 6-9. That's a little better.

    Ah, I think we found the problem....he is 16-53 on jump shots outside the paint. As has been stated, shooting can be learned and I am sure the Rox will find 3-4 spots for him and he will shoot 1,000 shots a day until he can execute them with closed eyes.

    For now, the idea of him shooting 3's is probably not in the plans....let's get him shooting solid from 16 ft. first.

    All in all, I think a little coaching and experience gets these numbers to spike sharply and quickly. He seems to be relatively bright and eager to learn and improve. Suddenly, the Rockets have an inside force just waiting to be unleashed on the league.

    In contrast to the link I posted earlier about K. Love....presuming TRob can make these improvements and D-Mo can refine his impressive skill set and learn some D I dare say keeping them is better than the acquisition of Smith or Love. Projecting a normal learning curve for them--in 2 years we will be grinning from ear to ear--maybe even sooner.

  • NorEastern says 1 YEAR ago The T-Rob trade brings to mind several interesting facets:

    1: Morey and the coaching staff obviously felt that D-Mo was ready to take over the PF spot. Otherwise they would have kept MM. Look for D-Mo to start getting increasing minutes. It also means that his defense will soon be on par with PPats. Excellent!

    2: T-Rob actually, IMHO, will become an excellent NBA starter. He has all of the tools: speed, serious hops, quickness, strong like bull, court awareness, and can shoot better than many give him credit for. He also probably will soon be another option for McHale and the coaching staff. It is a game of personnel match ups, and it never hurts to have a bruising athletic PF in your back pocket.

    3: Is their another version of small ball coming? Instead of Asik/Parsons will we be seeing D-Mo/T-Rob? I would love to see it at the end of the season or early next year. That pairing could some day be deadly.

    4: If the Rockets can get one really good PF and a good backup out of D-Mo, T-Rob and TJ where exactly would you use that max contract space? More options for Morey.
  • ale11 says 1 YEAR ago I don't know much about Robinson, but from what you have all said about his abilities, I really like this trade. Why? Because he gives us options, another skillset to that position. Right now, there's a crescent tendency to play "small ball", so....advanced stats show that lineups that have Parsons playing the 4 are proficient, maybe the plan is to give him more minutes there. We already have D-Mo to play the "stretch 4" role, so we need a PF who can play defense and rebound when the game requires so. Options.
    We already have two and a half PG in Lin, Beverley and Harden, so we don't need a fake PG like Douglas to play off the ball with Harden. Beverley is a better ballhandler and more controled, even though I like Douglas' enormous amount of energy, he picks too many fouls, and I think they play similar level of defense.
    We all thought that we needed another 3-point shooter, and even though Garcia is not in the same level of Redick, this will have to do for now, and he also brings some experience. Probably he will thrive under our system, since he is definitely going to have better looks than what he could get in Sacramento.
    Aldrich was battling Smith for minutes and throughout the season, failed to get in the rotation, so "no love lost" there either
  • Steven says 1 YEAR ago

    blakecouey, on 22 February 2013 - 04:27 AM said:


    There is a part two as well(not dealing with the Rockets though). I haven't had a chance to read it yet, but here is the link: http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/8972027/the-trade-deadline-exchange-part-2


    Just as funny. Especially the Simmons 3:16 line.
  • blakecouey says 1 YEAR ago There is a part two as well(not dealing with the Rockets though). I haven't had a chance to read it yet, but here is the link: http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/8972027/the-trade-deadline-exchange-part-2
  • rockets best fan says 1 YEAR ago blakecouey:
    thanks for the link. this stuff is off the charts funny. that stapler comment above gave me a good laugh too.
  • blakecouey says 1 YEAR ago It is at least 60% Petrie's fault. If he was unable to sway them to trade off Salmons instead of Garcia(as mentioned in the Grantland story) he failed as a GM. Either way, Maloofs or Petrie, I'm thankful because it was a hell of a steal.



    Chichos, on 21 February 2013 - 22:10 PM said:


    My favorite part is when he says NBA GMs just need to stop trading with Dork Elvis... Honestly if I worked with him and he wanted to trade staplers there is about a 0% chance I'm doing that trade. I bet advanced stats show my stapler has an elite staple completion rate.

    Quote:


    Lowe: You mean, the Suns getting a shooting power forward whose twin brother is on the team already, as a shooting power forward?

    Simmons: Exactly! I think the Suns have officially hit rock bottom — they couldn\'t acquire a marquee player to get their fans excited this week, even though they were trying to overpay for everyone from Josh Smith to Iman Shumpert, so they went with Plan B. What was Plan B? TWINS! Who\'s up for seeing some twins! Anyone? These guys look exactly alike! And we\'re gonna play them at the same time! COME SEE THE TWINS!!!!!!!


    is my favorite part, lol. I liked MM from when we drafted him(not so much when he was in Kansas beating up on my Longhorns...but whatever), and hate to see him stuck in PHX now. Hope he can continue to work hard, and elevate what we all believe was his ceiling.
  • timetodienow1234567 says 1 YEAR ago Apparently it wasn't the Sacremento GM's fault. It was the Maloofs who wanted the trade done.
  • Steven says 1 YEAR ago

    Chichos, on 21 February 2013 - 22:10 PM said:




    My favorite part is when he says NBA GMs just need to stop trading with Dork Elvis... Honestly if I worked with him and he wanted to trade staplers there is about a 0% chance I'm doing that trade. I bet advanced stats show my stapler has an elite staple completion rate.


    He'd trade his plain black stapler for your red stapler and laptop.
  • Chichos says 1 YEAR ago

    blakecouey, on 21 February 2013 - 21:49 PM said:


    I read it earlier, and it is hilarious.
    Heres the link: http://www.grantland...exchange-part-1


    My favorite part is when he says NBA GMs just need to stop trading with Dork Elvis... Honestly if I worked with him and he wanted to trade staplers there is about a 0% chance I'm doing that trade. I bet advanced stats show my stapler has an elite staple completion rate.
  • blakecouey says 1 YEAR ago

    Steven, on 21 February 2013 - 18:56 PM said:


    Anyone who wants a good laugh should check out grantland.com and see Simmons and Lowe discuss this trade. Albeit Simmons and Morey are friends, but Simmons does his best Boston Sports Guy and Lowe actually discuss the players.

    I read it earlier, and it is hilarious.
    Heres the link: http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/8970449/the-trade-deadline-exchange-part-1
  • thejohnnygold says 1 YEAR ago Was just checking the draft express profile that was posted...in the top right they do a "best case/worst case" projection...

    For Robinson, best case is Al Horford and worst case is Reggie Evans....given how much I like Evans' game....this makes me very happy
  • Steven says 1 YEAR ago

    Chichos, on 21 February 2013 - 18:36 PM said:


    LOVE this trade. Looks like everyone else here is on this bandwagon too.

    Robinson isn't quite otherworldly in his athleticism but he is still a great athlete. I think playing in a system where he gets to run the floor and attack before the defense is set will give him a 4 point boost on his scoring. Downside is his shooting. He just isn't a good shooter. His form changes from shot to shot and he seems to have more confidence in it then he should. His post game is a little suspect as well, but time with McHale and Co will fix that. Here is his draft day write up
    http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/thomas-robinson-5496/

    I think Garcia is a great pickup as well. It finally gets someone to pressure Delfino into taking decent shots as he is interchangeable with Garcia. Plus he can realistically spell Parsons at the three.

    I expect to see Garcia and Delfino gone next year with all first and second year players plus Lin, Harden, Asik, Parsons, and whatever free agent they choose to sign. So I guess Morey will be drafting shooters this coming draft. Morey has outdone himself. Playoff push pickup with Garcia while clearing room to see if these rookies are as good as we think.


    Robinson is a better shooter than people give him credit. While he is shoting 42-43%, 10% of his shots have been blocked. That shows he hasn't learned how to use his body, where to expect defenders to help from, you know big man stuff. Who better to teach him these things than a 6-10 Hall of Fame PF, who wasn't near the athlete as Robinson is, in Kevin McHale? FYI the season McHale coached the most games in Minnesota was Al Jefferson's best year.
  • Steven says 1 YEAR ago Anyone who wants a good laugh should check out grantland.com and see Simmons and Lowe discuss this trade. Albeit Simmons and Morey are friends, but Simmons does his best Boston Sports Guy and Lowe actually discuss the players.
  • Chichos says 1 YEAR ago LOVE this trade. Looks like everyone else here is on this bandwagon too.

    Robinson isn't quite otherworldly in his athleticism but he is still a great athlete. I think playing in a system where he gets to run the floor and attack before the defense is set will give him a 4 point boost on his scoring. Downside is his shooting. He just isn't a good shooter. His form changes from shot to shot and he seems to have more confidence in it then he should. His post game is a little suspect as well, but time with McHale and Co will fix that. Here is his draft day write up
    http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/thomas-robinson-5496/

    I think Garcia is a great pickup as well. It finally gets someone to pressure Delfino into taking decent shots as he is interchangeable with Garcia. Plus he can realistically spell Parsons at the three.

    I expect to see Garcia and Delfino gone next year with all first and second year players plus Lin, Harden, Asik, Parsons, and whatever free agent they choose to sign. So I guess Morey will be drafting shooters this coming draft. Morey has outdone himself. Playoff push pickup with Garcia while clearing room to see if these rookies are as good as we think.
  • rockets best fan says 1 YEAR ago someone should call the police......morey just held up the kings without a mask or gun :ph34r: this just shows how poorly managed the kings really are. I have no reservations about robinson. being a good player who didn't shine because he was within a poor enviroment as a rook is not reason to write off the #5 pick. this kid has star level abilities. can he pull it together...........that remains to be seen, but he is well worth the risk. plus this relieves some of the logjam at PF and makes more cap space for the summer. no matter how you look at this trade it's a win/win...............like I said someone should call the police :lol:
  • Steven says 1 YEAR ago

    ckingtcu, on 21 February 2013 - 17:52 PM said:


    I've seen conflicting reports on whether we are receiving 1 or 2 2nd rounders in the deal. Does anyone know for sure?? Given Morey's track record with those types of picks (Parsons/Budinger/Landry etc.) I think there's a big difference.


    2. One from Phoenix, one from Seatlle Supersonics.
  • sircharles says 1 YEAR ago robinson cant be flipped before the deadline, he would have to pass a physical by 3pm today.

    rockets are supposedly "in love" with robinson. this is who i wanted them to try and draft this year. he is a awesome rebounder and is a huge body. super atheletic and can play some defense. exactly what we need right now. his offensive game isnt too horrible, he was just part of a horrible offense and held back by inconsistent minutes. excited to see him in red.
  • ckingtcu says 1 YEAR ago I've seen conflicting reports on whether we are receiving 1 or 2 2nd rounders in the deal. Does anyone know for sure?? Given Morey's track record with those types of picks (Parsons/Budinger/Landry etc.) I think there's a big difference.
  • Stephen says 1 YEAR ago Strictly speaking you can trade any player you just acquired in a trade,only he has to be traded by himself,he can't be packaged w/any other player.
    Realistically,the player has to pass a physical(altho I'm sure that could be waived if team wanted to) and the paperwork has to be done w/teams and League Office and the time before deadline is too short for all that to happen.

    I am blown away Morey traded both rotation PFs,leaving McHale only rookies. Going to be interesting to see who gets the PF start in a week or so. Fit would seem to be Motie,and Smith w/whoever wins between Jones and Robinson.
    Garcia is a nice enough role player who gives McHale an option off bench when Delfino's elbow acts up or there's foul trouble on wings.
    Theoretically you pair Delfino and Garcia on second unit giving a strong vet presence to a unit fielding a rookie PG,a rookie PF and either a rookie or second-yr C.
  • Steven says 1 YEAR ago

    ckingtcu, on 21 February 2013 - 15:46 PM said:


    In a nutshell, I like these deals. A lot. As echoed all through this forum, we took advantage of Sac trying to save money and stole Robinson. Toney Douglas and Cole Aldrich were expendable so basically we swapped Patterson for Robinson, a 2 month rental of Cisco Garcia and supposedly a 2nd rounder. Thats a HUGE steal. I'm not as big of a fan of the Morris for a 2nd rounder trade and I think everyone in the league would agree that in pure value, the Rockets were the losers here, but this deal was made for future salary cap purposes, not for this season. As I've re-iterated multiple times since I joined Red94 (specifically see my lengthy post in the Reading the Trade Deadline Tea Leaves forum from a few weeks ago) the Rockets are NOT trying to contend this year. Nor should they be. They have the youngest core in the league and (especially now) as much cap flexibility as anyone. There is absolutely no reason to go all-in at this point. These moves were made to continue to build a young core while leaving the door open for a max-level player in the future. Too often, I see people posting and commenting about how this affects this team this season and to be honest.... MOREY DOESN'T CARE... and neither should you. This team will be a championship contender in 2 years and that is the ultimate goal. If we start making moves too quickly we will end up in contender/pretender purgatory for the long haul yet again (granted, the first time was not Daryl's fault. he built a contender but the unexpected injuries to T-Mac and Yao ended their careers). Bottom line, keep rooting for this team to make the playoffs and who knows maybe we can pull a 1st round upset. When we limit turnovers and shoot the 3 well we can beat anyone... but more importantly, sit back and wait. Things will only get better.


    These aren't two separate deals. This is one three team deal. The Rockets traded 5M in salary on next years books for $3.5M. Robinson has the biggest upside of all the players involved, and the Rockets picked up two second rounders that will probably be in the low 30s.
  • RocketMan says 1 YEAR ago Garcia's usage mirrors that of Douglas, but he likely doesn't get as much time with starters on the floor as Toney did. A basic comparison of their stats this season shows some telling differences in their playing style:

    Minutes: Douglas 18/Garcia 17

    Shooting: Douglas 139-352(.395) / Garcia 72-205(.376)
    -similar minutes, Douglas is much more aggressive, taking almost 150 more shots

    3-ball: Douglas 61-162(.357) / Garcia 40-109 (.367)

    Free-Throws: HUGE** Douglas 60-68 FT / Garcia 12-14 FT
    -Garcia obviously doesn't have an aggressive bone in his body or feels he has nothing to prove. May have something to do with bad offense of Sacramento though.

    Rebounding: Douglas 90 / Garcia 68

    Assists/Turnovers: Douglas 93AST/56TO , Garcia 43 AST/20TO
    -shows aggressive nature of Douglas and poor offensive flow for Sacramento

    Defensive Stats: Douglas 40 steals, 2 blocks / Garcia 32 steals, 31 blocks
    -Garcia obviously knows where to be on defense and is more likely to play smarter not harder (drafted in 2005)

    Interesting comparison, but I would love to know how much of that is affected by how awful Sacramento is this year as a team.
  • ckingtcu says 1 YEAR ago In a nutshell, I like these deals. A lot. As echoed all through this forum, we took advantage of Sac trying to save money and stole Robinson. Toney Douglas and Cole Aldrich were expendable so basically we swapped Patterson for Robinson, a 2 month rental of Cisco Garcia and supposedly a 2nd rounder. Thats a HUGE steal. I'm not as big of a fan of the Morris for a 2nd rounder trade and I think everyone in the league would agree that in pure value, the Rockets were the losers here, but this deal was made for future salary cap purposes, not for this season. As I've re-iterated multiple times since I joined Red94 (specifically see my lengthy post in the Reading the Trade Deadline Tea Leaves forum from a few weeks ago) the Rockets are NOT trying to contend this year. Nor should they be. They have the youngest core in the league and (especially now) as much cap flexibility as anyone. There is absolutely no reason to go all-in at this point. These moves were made to continue to build a young core while leaving the door open for a max-level player in the future. Too often, I see people posting and commenting about how this affects this team this season and to be honest.... MOREY DOESN'T CARE... and neither should you. This team will be a championship contender in 2 years and that is the ultimate goal. If we start making moves too quickly we will end up in contender/pretender purgatory for the long haul yet again (granted, the first time was not Daryl's fault. he built a contender but the unexpected injuries to T-Mac and Yao ended their careers). Bottom line, keep rooting for this team to make the playoffs and who knows maybe we can pull a 1st round upset. When we limit turnovers and shoot the 3 well we can beat anyone... but more importantly, sit back and wait. Things will only get better.
  • timetodienow1234567 says 1 YEAR ago I'm not too familiar with Garcia. Is he a decent defender? I know he can shoot the 3, or so I've heard, but what about defense? We already have enough defensive liabilities on the court.
  • Sir Thursday says 1 YEAR ago Really like both parts of this deal in a vacuum, although it remains to be seen how it will work on the court for the rest of this season with only rookies at the PF position.

    Thomas Robinson for Patterson was obviously a huge steal in NBA Trade Value terms. #5 pick in the draft hasn't really had time to show his potential yet, especially playing in the cancerous player development environment that is the Sacramento Kings' locker room. Hopefully the change of scenery and a team with a better attitude will help him get his head around the NBA game, and if he can do that he has the upside to be much better than Patterson. I remember Morey talking about how what he really wanted was a top 5 pick, as that's where the majority of stars are drafted. Well now he's got one! Here's to hoping Mr. Robinson can develop into the beast he was projected to be back in July.

    I also really like dealing Morris for the Suns' second round pick. Remember, we're talking about the Suns, who have one of the worst records in the league this year. That means the pick is going to be low 30s, which outside of the lottery is the best place to draft in the league. You're not locked into salary obligations like you would be with a 1st round draft choice, but there's unlikely to be a huge drop off in player quality between players available in the late first round and early second round. Given what Morey has been able to do with 2nd round picks in the past, I'm looking forward to seeing what magic he can work next time around.

    The issue is just that he made both of those deals and it puts our playoff run in jeopardy. While we haven't exactly been getting consistent production from the PF spot, this trade is unlikely to help matters in that regard. Thomas Robinson has played 809 minutes of NBA basketball, Terrence Jones 91, Donatas Motiejunas 81. They're going to have to learn fast! Fortunately the addition of Garcia means that we will be able to go small more often with Parsons playing some 4. It will be interesting to see whether lineups like that start to get more playing time.

    ST
  • Kade says 1 YEAR ago

    rockets best fan, on 21 February 2013 - 05:44 AM said:


    WTF? NO FREAKIN WAY. :lol:/> Kade you like this deal? morey is going to win you over sooner or later :lol:/>


    Robinson may not be with us for long but if he is he better not play like a bum like he did with Sac hopefully it's the team that's the cause and not that he's a bust.
  • Kade says 1 YEAR ago

    rockets best fan, on 21 February 2013 - 04:22 AM said:


    well I guess this puts all those j smith, milsap rumors to bed.


    No it hasn't. Robinson may get traded to get Mildap tomorrow and Morey is going after Smith this off season. The trades tonight shows its pretty clear freeing up more cap they will go hard for him.
  • phaketrash says 1 YEAR ago We lose the corner 3 and MM's 3 pters, but TRob can still spread the floor a bit, just less efficiently. He can knock down some midrange jumpers, I thought -- just not yet from behind the arc.

    Same thing could have been said about 2Pat last season... :) I like this deal a lot. We knew MM and 2Pat's ceilings, for the most part. We don't with TRob yet, so worst case scenario, we sort of break even with TRob contributing about as much as 2Pat might have (not sure if MM was necessary to land TRob), or best case scenario, we have a really, really good PF one day lol. Morey magic!
  • Steven says 1 YEAR ago

    rocketrick, on 21 February 2013 - 05:31 AM said:




    Probably end game because none of the new acquistions can be flipped. With 1 roster spot open, the Rockets might make 1 more minor move to help another team shed some salary ( cost to the other team would be another draft pick is my best guess). The great thing is the Rockets don't need to make that move unless it totally makes sense. They could instead simply pick up somebody that is kicking a$$ in the D-League. Or just go with a 14-player roster the rest of the season.


    Actually the Rockets are still under the cap, so if they wanted they could trade Robinson before the deadline.

    Here's is somebody who gets paid to write about the NBA's thoughts on the trade.
    http://basketball.realgm.com/article/226251/Grading-The-Deal-Thomas-Robinson-Traded-To-Rockets
  • rockets best fan says 1 YEAR ago

    Kade, on 21 February 2013 - 04:02 AM said:


    I like this trade very very much, then again as a Baylor grad I saw a lot of Robinson in college and hope his disappointing play at SAC was more because of the team than him. Plus getting more off the cap is nice.
    WTF? NO FREAKIN WAY. :lol: Kade you like this deal? morey is going to win you over sooner or later :lol:
  • pharmag says 1 YEAR ago

    rocketrick, on 21 February 2013 - 05:31 AM said:


    Probably end game because none of the new acquistions can be flipped. With 1 roster spot open, the Rockets might make 1 more minor move to help another team shed some salary ( cost to the other team would be another draft pick is my best guess). The great thing is the Rockets don't need to make that move unless it totally makes sense. They could instead simply pick up somebody that is kicking a$$ in the D-League. Or just go with a 14-player roster the rest of the season.


    Makes sense. I do like the upside we have at the four now. I think PPat is about as good as he is going to be. He is an excellent scorer but as the 3rd/4th scoring option, he doesn't rebound well enough and his defense isn't always consistent. As for Morris, he is a tweener and will probably always be a bench/match-up player. He has some upside, but again he is a scorer with limited rebounding and even less defense than PPat.

    With Robinson, Motie, & Jones, I see a lot of potential. Robinson is a good rebounder and solid defender. While Motie struggles with rebounding & defending due to the size he gives up, he has the most complete post game of any of the PF and with some added size should become a better rebounder and defender. And Jones is a crazy athletic player, if he can manage to put it all together.

    At least that is what I have see. Then again, school has kept me pretty busy of late and I am not as on top of it as I usually am.
  • rocketrick says 1 YEAR ago

    pharmag, on 21 February 2013 - 05:17 AM said:


    So is this end-game until offseason, or is there another move coming?


    Probably end game because none of the new acquistions can be flipped. With 1 roster spot open, the Rockets might make 1 more minor move to help another team shed some salary ( cost to the other team would be another draft pick is my best guess). The great thing is the Rockets don't need to make that move unless it totally makes sense. They could instead simply pick up somebody that is kicking a$$ in the D-League. Or just go with a 14-player roster the rest of the season.
  • pharmag says 1 YEAR ago So is this end-game until offseason, or is there another move coming?
  • Paradise says 1 YEAR ago I honestly like this trade. Like the moving of these guys, and TRob has potential to be a decent player. Also with this move we can get Dmo playing time and Jones as well.
  • rockets best fan says 1 YEAR ago well I guess this puts all those j smith, milsap rumors to bed.
  • Ostrow says 1 YEAR ago

    Stephen, on 21 February 2013 - 04:03 AM said:


    Freakin' Sacramento.
    The Rockets had a deal w/Sac on Draft day for the Sac #5 if Sac's guy wasn't there. And Sac's guy was Robinson,so Sac turned down the trade.
    Now Sac trades Robinson. Unbelievable.


    Lucky us that Sac didn't. We probably draft Drummond. No Harden. Sac's terribleness benefits us.
  • bob schmidt says 1 YEAR ago This article, http://aroyalpain.com/2013/02/20/breaking-down-the-sacramento-kings-houston-rockets-thomas-robinson-patrick-patterson-trade/ , sort of tells me that Houston has just raided the cookie jar big time. Personally, I am glad to see movement at the PF. Patterson and Morris failed to impress at the 4, regardless of having 2/3 of a season to establish themselves. As pharmag commented, we managed to knock off OKC with neither of them involved, and a very short bench.

    You have to love the effort in tonight's win over OKC. I thought the game was a lost cause when we fell behind by 12 in the 4th quarter, but Harden and crew put their collective heads together and eeked out a tough win. It's a damn shame to have to watch low quality streaming video to "sort of" see the game. Maybe Time Warner will wake up one of these days and offer us a chance to see these Rockets, even if it costs a few bucks a month.
  • Stephen says 1 YEAR ago BTW,the Rockets only saved some $1.5mil assuming the team would have kept Pat.
    Robinson is due some $3.5mil and Pat and Morris combine for $5mil. Everybody else was/is an expiring.
    I must say I'm rather shocked. I thought Morey would trade one of Pat and Morris,not both!
  • Jeby says 1 YEAR ago

    essex, on 21 February 2013 - 02:39 AM said:


    *so much FOR spread picknroll

    I had the same thought, actually. The Rockets haven't used a single lineup this year that didn't involve 4 three-point shooters on the floor. Putting Robinson in the starting lineup would throw a huge monkey wrench into their offense. I predict we'll see him taking Greg Smith's minutes at back-up center next to D-Mo playing the backup 4. If he can set picks, grab boards and finish for 15 minutes per night, we make the playoffs, he gets to develop in a clearly defined role, and everybody goes home happy (except Greg Smith).
  • Stephen says 1 YEAR ago Freakin' Sacramento.
    The Rockets had a deal w/Sac on Draft day for the Sac #5 if Sac's guy wasn't there. And Sac's guy was Robinson,so Sac turned down the trade.
    Now Sac trades Robinson. Unbelievable.
  • Kade says 1 YEAR ago

    joshtwillis, on 21 February 2013 - 02:17 AM said:


    Somewhere kade just threw up in his mouth a little bit ....


    I like this trade very very much, then again as a Baylor grad I saw a lot of Robinson in college and hope his disappointing play at SAC was more because of the team than him. Plus getting more off the cap is nice.
  • pharmag says 1 YEAR ago Then to top it off, the Rockets managed to knock off OKC despite not having the two guys who received 95% of the minutes at PF this season.
  • pharmag says 1 YEAR ago This trade is a pretty solid trade even if nothing else happens. Basically turned 4 players, 2 of which were not in the long-term picture and the other 2 were questionable for long-term, into a rookie top 5 pick, an additional 4 million off the salaries after the season, & 2 second round picks.
  • Drew in Abilene says 1 YEAR ago I don't know much about Thomas Robinson other than the following:

    He was the number 5 overall pick.

    Morey valued him (and maybe the pieces along with him or the cap room they brought) enough to let go of Patterson, even though 2Pat has been steadily improving his game and contributing. Morey has done a good job in the past few years of prying away good pieces (either for the team or for later trades), and is always looking to make smart upgrades, and apparently thinks Robinson for Patterson qualifies.

    Sacramento seems very dysfunctional, so even though Robinson's numbers are not as good as Patterson's so far, the cultures and the systems the teams run probably account for part of that difference.
  • blakecouey says 1 YEAR ago Love it. I wanted Robinson in the draft, this is better. I like Garcia, even if for only ~20 games. Wish we could've gotten more for Morris, but it should be a relatively high 2nd round pick, and we didn't take back any bad contracts so that's a win too. I'm thrilled.
  • essex says 1 YEAR ago *so much FOR spread picknroll
  • essex says 1 YEAR ago so much spread pick n roll. robinson doesn't shoot the 3 ball
  • joshtwillis says 1 YEAR ago Somewhere kade just threw up in his mouth a little bit ....
  • rockets best fan says 1 YEAR ago this is a super great trade for the rockets............morey you did it again. you got something for very little cost. robinson is a better version of mm. bringing in garcia is also good for a playoff run. the rockets just dropped another 6.1 mil under the salary cap for next year because garcia's deal has a team option for next year. and honeycutt's deal is not guaranteed. I guess the rockets have deemed d-mo and jones ready to play. this relieves some of the logjam and all at the same time they opened up and extra roster spot. MOREY IS A VERY GOOD GM HANDS DOWN.