Beverley confident he’ll play again this season

Beverley will still see Dr. James Andrews on Monday for an evaluation on his right knee, but he’s very confident that Andrews will feel the same way about his chances of playing again this season.

“No one was going to remove anything,” Beverley said. “We haven’t even discussed surgery yet. It looks to the point I think I might not have to get surgery. We don’t know. We have to see Dr. Andrews on Monday for him to make his educated decision about that.”

“I feel pretty good,” Beverley said. “I feel like I knocked knees with somebody. It hurt a lot the first day. I don’t really feel a lot of pain today, which is a good sign. No swelling. So I’m going to go see the best knee doctor in the country. I spoke to him on the phone. He has seen it. It really looks good. We’ll see how long it lasts. It may be 10 to 14 days, maybe four weeks. He just has to get his hand on it and see how it is.

This could potentially be huge news for the Rockets.  Even if Beverley needs to scale-back his minutes, his presence would save Houston from heading into the playoffs counting on former Ohio-Valley Conference rookie Isaiah Canaan.  Canaan may have a future in the NBA, but he’s not ready for the likes of Russell Westbrook, Tony Parker and all the other elite point guards at the top of the Western Conference.

If anyone can just put a brace on this type of injury and power through it, its Spartak.  Don’t count him out yet.

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  • bluemars says 4 months ago

    I agree with you that it would be better for Lin if Canaan had more time with the starters. Lin would have the freedom and flexibility to run the offense with the 2nd unit. Additionally, Canaan is a better offensive fit with the starters due to his 3 pt. shooting. However, there is one big problem I see with Canaan right now and that's defense. He is too small and doesn't make up for it with athleticism and bite like Beverley. Lin is not an elite defender but I think he showed yesterday that he is miles better than Canaan. More importantly, while I agree that Canaan drops the "rookie mistakes" with experience, I don't see Canaan improving significantly with respect to defense before the playoffs. Hopefully he can prove me wrong.

  • thejohnnygold says 4 months ago

    The mistakes I see Canaan making mostly look like rookie mistakes. He doesn't seem to have adjusted to the quickness and length of these players. Thus, passes that used to be good get stolen. I think they have given him the green light to play and they are content to get a good read on where he is at. Having him play on a leash right now makes no sense--we need to see where he is at. I like his aggression, quickness, and court vision. If he can get over what looks like nerves and start knocking down some threes while improving his passing that just leaves the defense problem. That Toronto game was hilarious--he kept getting switched onto bigger dudes and the size disparity was just too much.

    If he ends up playing meaningful minutes in the playoffs I think he will have a more limited role that will hide his weaknesses to some degree.

  • BrentYen says 4 months ago

    Finally got a chance to listen to it. Did not hear it, my bad. MIght be just false info.

  • BrentYen says 4 months ago

    Well, scrub or not. He might get to start. In other forums, poster citing Morey (on sporttalk790 today?) about Lin's back is not responding to the treatment and they might sit him. Here comes the chance for Canaan to improve.

  • Dayak says 4 months ago I'm agree with you JH, Lin is what we need as the spark off the bench, but Canaan is a different type of player than Bev. Canaan at this point has the highest TOV% for the Rockets and by the eye test he is an under average defender. I mean, at this point he is a "scrub". Sorry Steven, but i have to say the truth about your Canaan, lol.
  • thejohnnygold says 4 months ago

    Fair. However, I don't think Canaan is ready to be put in as starter.

    I agree with this--really thought I was clear in my first post--which is why I want him out there. He can be buoyed by the other starters (if they can get healthy) and get up to speed much faster. Yes, he is going to get torched at times. Yes, he is going to make mistakes. Better now than against, Portland, SA, OKC, or whoever in the playoffs.

    It is not about who is better, or ready, or deserving. Lin, as so many have attested to, needs a clearly defined role to succeed. So give it to him. Keep doing the sixth man thing. Canaan can bring the ball up court, work on defense, fast breaks, and spot up threes. AKA Patrick Beverley.

  • NickyK says 4 months ago

    I'll assume you missed the point and spirit of my post so I won't bother repeating it. To answer your question, I judge him as a rookie--the same way I did before. Wanting Lin to be ready for the playoffs while maintaining continuity in the line-ups does not mean I think Canaan is better than anybody. Perhaps reading more carefully and being less defensive will help understand my perspective better...

    Fair. However, I don't think Canaan is ready to be put in as starter.

  • thejohnnygold says 5 months ago

    JG, be real! seeing one game from Canaan then make a quick judgement. That blows me off.....Canaan is 1/8, 2 points against Nets. How do you judge him this time?

    I'll assume you missed the point and spirit of my post so I won't bother repeating it. To answer your question, I judge him as a rookie--the same way I did before. Wanting Lin to be ready for the playoffs while maintaining continuity in the line-ups does not mean I think Canaan is better than anybody. Perhaps reading more carefully and being less defensive will help understand my perspective better...

  • rockets best fan says 5 months ago

    @Feelingsupersonic

    while I want the Rockets to upgrade the PG position he should be a rotation player no matter who they bring in. I don't think Morey has any intention of allowing him to slip away from us :wub: :lol:

  • feelingsupersonic says 5 months ago

    MAN I love this interview......keep the fingers crossed for wolverine



    Right, he's just great isn't he. I would like the Rockets to try to keep him as long as possible.
  • NickyK says 5 months ago

    After seeing Canaan in last night's game I'd like to see him start over Lin. The reason is I want Lin to continue developing himself and the reserves into a solid unit with good chemistry. With him, D-Mo, Asik, and whichever SG/SF combo McHale decides to play with them they have a chance to be solid on defense and do some legitimate scoring.

    Meanwhile, Canaan can provide a presence similar to Beverley like Drew just described above. Canaan gets quality minutes. Lin hones his role. This seems like the best route to take in my opinion. Plus, if this happens Steven's prediction of Canaan starting in the playoffs could actually come true--which is kind of awesome even if it is due to injury. :)

    JG, be real! seeing one game from Canaan then make a quick judgement. That blows me off.....Canaan is 1/8, 2 points against Nets. How do you judge him this time?

  • rockets best fan says 5 months ago

    MAN I love this interview......keep the fingers crossed for wolverine

  • Dayak says 5 months ago

    If we want the Rockets to go further in the playoffs, we need Bev to play again this season.


    *Fixed
  • feelingsupersonic says 5 months ago Here is a link to an interview Beverley did yesterday on 790AM here in Houston.

    http://m.sports790.com/media/podcast-exclusive-790-interviews-790interviews/patrick-beverley-on-mt40114-24564422/
  • Willk says 5 months ago

    This was for a comment on the first page but i couldnt help but refute on it...

    Parsons only covered CP3 because the Clippers went with the rare three point guard lineup of J crawford, Darren Collison and CP3 all playing at the same time. it had nothing to do with Lin. It was about putting size on the clippers best player. and it didnt work. Paul went OFF against Parsons. No need to pile on Lin for it..

    http://scores.espn.go.com/nba/boxscore?gameId=400489961

    The Clippers started with a traditional line-up, not a three point guard line-up. Parsons played against CP3 right from the beginning. CP3 also was guarding Parsons which I found interesting. It looks like the Clippers put their two best wing defenders on the Rockets two best wing players.

  • Incubus2803 says 5 months ago

    This was for a comment on the first page but i couldnt help but refute on it...

    Parsons only covered CP3 because the Clippers went with the rare three point guard lineup of J crawford, Darren Collison and CP3 all playing at the same time. it had nothing to do with Lin. It was about putting size on the clippers best player. and it didnt work. Paul went OFF against Parsons. No need to pile on Lin for it..

  • rockets best fan says 5 months ago

    I'm hoping Beverley returns and Canaan is his backup..............I have lost confidence in Lin

  • Dayak says 5 months ago

    Or we will see what we saw again. One a below average PG, the other "irrational confidence guy".


    I hope not. If we want the Rockets to go further in the playoffs, we need both of them to step up.
  • Steven says 5 months ago

    Just one game and i don't think Canaan did well on that game. Lin is far better than Canaan at this point. We'll see it on the next game.

    Or we will see what we saw again. One a below average PG, the other "irrational confidence guy".
  • Dayak says 5 months ago

    Just one game and i don't think Canaan did well on that game. Lin is far better than Canaan at this point. We'll see it on the next game.

  • Cooper says 5 months ago

    The schedule the rest of the way is so easy the only game I'd be concerned about missing beverly is Toronto, otherwise it should be fairly easy wins the rest of the way besides okc which they haven't had success against with beverly anyways.

  • rockets best fan says 5 months ago

    @Drew in abilene

    Yes it could cost us a couple of games, however unlikely to affect our playoff seed IMO

  • Drew in Abilene says 5 months ago

    @Drew in Abilene

    Drew I don't agree with you but understand your line of thinking. it's common toresist change especially when dealing with the unknown. right now Canaan represents the unknown. we see different things when we look at Lin so I can't see the harm in replacing him like you do. to me Lin has already proved unable to handle this team

    Fair enough. We both understand each others' points and simply diverge on our evaluation of Lin. No matter if you're right, I'm right, or we're both off the mark, I know we both want what's best for the Rockets. Different ideas about what that looks like, but we're both on Houston's side.

    On a slightly different note, if Beverley misses the rest of the regular season (about 2 1/2 weeks), do y'all think that costs us a few games or even a seed?

  • rockets best fan says 5 months ago

    @rm90025

    Lin get a lot of scrutiny and criticism because few athletes haveas large of a following of objectively challenged fans.

  • rockets best fan says 5 months ago

    @Drew in Abilene

    Drew I don't agree with you but understand your line of thinking. it's common toresist change especially when dealing with the unknown. right now Canaan represents the unknown. we see different things when we look at Lin so I can't see the harm in replacing him like you do. to me Lin has already proved unable to handle this team

  • rm90025 says 5 months ago

    Lin gets the scrutiny and criticism that even a lot of stars avoid. Lin didn't have a good game against the Clippers but I would say most of that was because the shots didn't fall. It wasn't about a lack of aggressiveness (he had 8 pts on FT attempts) or a lack of shot attempts, or defensive issues (He was playing the #2 guard and kept them honest though the Clippers didn't really test him too much). A lot of that performance had to do with very good Clippers D. I think he and the coaching staff need to figure out a more effective plan to execute against very athletic paint defenders like the Clips.

  • rm90025 says 5 months ago

    Beverley is a player that depends on his athleticism. The Rockets should be asking what his risk of further injury is even if he is able to get back on the court. A tear is still a tear. And the time it takes to heal is the time it takes.

  • Drew in Abilene says 5 months ago

    @Drew in Abilene

    undervaluing Lin? interesting concept. base on the fact that his play recently by even the most optimistic view has been mediocre, exactly what does he bring to the table? turnovers? indecision? poor passing? horrible shooting? Drew enlighten me, what is it that you think he can bring to the table that Canaan will not. is it proper to continue with things as they are even when it isn't working? I think all of us have seen enough of Lin to know what we are getting and what we are getting is unfulfillingso why not try something else?I honestly feel Canaan can't be any worse than Lin sowhat exactly is it that you believe we are losing by making a switch?

    Posters in this thread have suggested benching Lin permanently, citing his lack of talent. I was in the midst of conversation about whether Lin's talent warranted the price-tag on his contract, and I felt that the conversation was worthwhile. But this current line of thinking, that Lin is undeserving of minutes and a bad player overall, doesn't make sense to me.

    You asked me what Lin brings to the table. I believe he brings a more steady hand than a rookie. I believe he brings an attacking style of play that is very conducive to the success of the Rockets' second unit. When his shots aren't falling, he has the ability to drive to the rim and create shots for others or pick up fouls on the defenders. In my estimation, he's also a better defender than many give him credit for.

    Canaan is an unknown quantity. He played well in college and has done a good job with the Vipers. Yet these successes do not mean that he's ready to start for a contender. He is inexperienced. He has not had time to adjust to playing defense against NBA-caliber point guards. He may one day be ready for a starting position, but from what I've seen, I don't think he's ready yet. Nor do I think he'll be ready this season, and probably not next. Again, these are my opinions, and I don't expect people to agree with me.

    I guess my big push-back is that sports fans tend to overvalue the potential of the unknown player over the reality of the current player. I think that point is true, whether you think it's applicable in this situation or not. I think a reasonable evaluation of Lin would be that he has been one of the better back-up point guards in the NBA this season, though he's played below the level of most starters. That would put him at around the 30th-40th point guard in the league.

    Several posters here are suggesting that Canaan would outperform Lin given those minutes. So be it. I have no more desire to argue that point, not because I think it Lin would underperform in comparison, but because Lin is so polarizing that I get the feeling the conversation would not be very productive. But to argue that Lin should be benched and not get any playing time at this point of the season, with Beverley injured and out for two weeks, is baffling to me. Starting a rookie point guard and leaving no alternative at the 1 is not my idea of a good solution.

    I'll end with this: we see what we are looking for. For those who have decided that Lin is unworthy of playing time, it's easy to focus in on turnovers and missed shots. For those who believe he's a great player, it's easy to key in on his drives and the swishes. I think it's worthwhile to remember that we each tend to fall into our own confirmation biases. I think it's fair for me to note that I'm biased towards Lin doing well. But I think it's also fair to note that I'm not the only person posting with some bias.

  • BrentYen says 5 months ago

    @RBF, I have no doubt about it. LOL

  • rockets best fan says 5 months ago

    if Beverley does return........(fingers crossed ;)) Lin and Canaan may be battling to see who will be his backup

  • Incubus2803 says 5 months ago Haven't read all these but I think the Canaan stuff is silly. He showed he can be a player but he is reckless. The spurs and any other smart team would exploit him. He is not ready.
  • BrentYen says 5 months ago

    I agree with you JG. I also, think it is easier for the Rockets to bring Lin in a game where Canaan is struggling and have a positive effect then the other way around.

    I think Canaan is similar to Bev in that he will shot the 3 at a good clip and will bring hustle every day. I am not sure you can count on Lin's shoot every night. Other teams double off ofLin and take their chances on Lin hitting that shot then letting Harden and Howard beat them. A perfect example of this was the last game against Portland. Portland helped off of Lin when Harden would drive and Harden found Lin 4 times for wide open threes in the fourth quarter. Lin hit1. Canaan will keep teams more honest.

    Finally, many teams try to keep key players in their roles no matter what happens. We just saw the Clippers do this. JJ Redick was injured so instead of starting Jamal Crawford, the Clips started Darren Collison. The Spurs also do this with Manu Ginobili. Ray Allen does not always start when Wade is out.

    Lin can do both anyway. Probably does not matter to Lin. PB won the starting job because of His defense? SO......it depends on how Canaan I guess.

  • feelingsupersonic says 5 months ago

    Again, posted this in a different location but...

    Adrian Wojnarowski@WojYahooNBA[/size>1m
    After suffering a torn meniscus in right knee, Houston's Patrick Beverley won't need surgery and will return this season, sources tell Y.



    Yessssssss!
  • Willk says 5 months ago

    After seeing Canaan in last night's game I'd like to see him start over Lin. The reason is I want Lin to continue developing himself and the reserves into a solid unit with good chemistry. With him, D-Mo, Asik, and whichever SG/SF combo McHale decides to play with them they have a chance to be solid on defense and do some legitimate scoring.

    Meanwhile, Canaan can provide a presence similar to Beverley like Drew just described above. Canaan gets quality minutes. Lin hones his role. This seems like the best route to take in my opinion. Plus, if this happens Steven's prediction of Canaan starting in the playoffs could actually come true--which is kind of awesome even if it is due to injury. :)

    I agree with you JG. I also, think it is easier for the Rockets to bring Lin in a game where Canaan is struggling and have a positive effect then the other way around.

    I think Canaan is similar to Bev in that he will shot the 3 at a good clip and will bring hustle every day. I am not sure you can count on Lin's shoot every night. Other teams double off ofLin and take their chances on Lin hitting that shot then letting Harden and Howard beat them. A perfect example of this was the last game against Portland. Portland helped off of Lin when Harden would drive and Harden found Lin 4 times for wide open threes in the fourth quarter. Lin hit1. Canaan will keep teams more honest.

    Finally, many teams try to keep key players in their roles no matter what happens. We just saw the Clippers do this. JJ Redick was injured so instead of starting Jamal Crawford, the Clips started Darren Collison. The Spurs also do this with Manu Ginobili. Ray Allen does not always start when Wade is out.

  • rockets best fan says 5 months ago

    @Drew in Abilene

    undervaluing Lin? interesting concept. base on the fact that his play recently by even the most optimistic view has been mediocre, exactly what does he bring to the table? turnovers? indecision? poor passing? horrible shooting? Drew enlighten me, what is it that you think he can bring to the table that Canaan will not. is it proper to continue with things as they are even when it isn't working? I think all of us have seen enough of Lin to know what we are getting and what we are getting is unfulfillingso why not try something else?I honestly feel Canaan can't be any worse than Lin sowhat exactly is it that you believe we are losing by making a switch?

  • adonneus says 5 months ago

    I've lurked here for long enough to know that I am much less knowledgeable about basketball than most people here, but I thought I'd give my two cents on my own experience of watching Lin on the Rockets.

    I've realized that the reason I prefer other players to him almost always comes down to those possessions in which he jumps up with no plan and literally throws the ball away. If he ends up throwing it towards the hoop after looking around, it looks no different on the stat sheet than any other player missing a thought-out tough shot. However, it is just so much more frustrating to watch as a fan.

    That said, I agree with Drew and think it's probably better for the Rockets for Lin to start over Canaan given the experience gap, but I'll probably be yelling at my TV a lot more than I would if Canaan started.

  • Ostrow says 5 months ago

    Again, posted this in a different location but...

    After suffering a torn meniscus in right knee, Houston's Patrick Beverley won't need surgery and will return this season, sources tell Y.

  • Drew in Abilene says 5 months ago

    I disagree with the prevailing opinion here. While it's true that we don't know Canaan's ceiling yet, nor do we know what his average will look like, I think that Lin is far superior to Canaan right now, and will almost certainly remain better than him for this season and next. I can't imagine Canaan, even if he were given the starting job or just extra minutes, outperforming Jeremy Lin. Lin has more experience, and I also believe, more potential to help Houston secure wins.

    I have read through the arguments for Canaan starting, and as well-written as some are, I can't get behind the concept of tossing a second-round rookie who has had little more than a few garbage-time minutes into a starting role over a good player who knows the role better and has experience.

    Just as many posters here have vehemently argued that Lin fans drastically overvalue his talents and contributions, I would like to suggest that perhaps the forum as a whole has swung the pendulum too far in the other direction, and may now be drastically undervaluing what Lin brings to the table.

  • Ostrow says 5 months ago

    The only reason I'd consider starting Canaan over Lin is because Lin is better with the ball in his hands. In order to do that, Harden has to be off the floor. Lin is clearly better than Canaan, but it could be a Harden/Thabo situation from a few years ago. I see Lin currently, and in the future on this team, as a 6th man who comes in and provides instant offense. The Beverley injury obviously affects the situation, but I believe that that is Lin's best role.

  • rockets best fan says 5 months ago

    @PhillyCheese/TTDN

    first off Beverley is no waterboy...........I don't know how you came up with that. maybe you felt like you needed to respond but you really didn't have anything to add. if someone was going to be moved to waterboy based on Lin's contributions to the team lately at least it would allow him to be useful :lol:

    second......TTDN Lin isn't worth a roster spot on this team. I expect the Rockets to take care of that in short order once the season ends

  • timetodienow1234567 says 5 months ago So now Lin isn't even worthy of a roster spot? Lol.
  • PhillyCheese says 5 months ago

    I guess that would make Beverley the waterboy then.

    if I were the coach Lin would be so far down on the bench the waterboy has a better chance of playing :lol:

  • Steven says 5 months ago No, I'd wish the Rockets to lose. That's why I've been coming on this site for years to give the impression I am a Rockets fan, but in reality I am a Mavs fan who enjoys watching the Rockets homers squirm whenever they fail and we succeed. You are so smart to have figured me out.

    And deep down I do truely believe that Canaan gives the Rockets team a better chance to win with the current players. Canaan is a better shooter, and Lin needs the ball in order to be effective, but harden is better and there is only one ball.
  • rockets best fan says 5 months ago

    no one wants to see Lin fail......that's why I'm calling for reduced minutes........so we don't have to watch him fail

  • PhillyCheese says 5 months ago

    Yes I do. It seems you take pleasure in seeing Lin fail, which in all likelihoodthe Rox will also lose because as much as you like to hope, Canaan is not a better player than Lin, even after his piss poor game yesterday. You do want Rox to win, right?

  • rockets best fan says 5 months ago

    if I were the coach Lin would be so far down on the bench the waterboy has a better chance of playing :lol:

  • Steven says 5 months ago

    Well, we'll agree to disagree then. I am looking forward to watching Lin go for 32 min every game and helping the Rox win. Actually, I think Coach should put him in for 36. and then in the offseason if the team trades him for better pieces, then so be it. But right now they need him.

    You want the Rockets to win, right?
  • Cooper says 5 months ago

    None of the point guards on the roster are top 20 or even that close.

  • PhillyCheese says 5 months ago

    Well, we'll agree to disagree then. I am looking forward to watching Lin go for 32 min every game and helping the Rox win. Actually, I think Coach should put him in for 36. and then in the offseason if the team trades him for better pieces, then so be it. But right now they need him.

  • Steven says 5 months ago Sorry for wanting someone with a ceiling above top 20 PG as a starter.
  • thenit says 5 months ago I still think Lin should start its one game and he should get more oppurturnities than that.
  • rockets best fan says 5 months ago

    @PhillyCheese

    I don't hate Lin, but YES I do think just that little of his skillset.

  • PhillyCheese says 5 months ago

    A proven starter replaced late in the year by an unproven rookie. You guys really hate Lin that much? Canaan had 4 t/o in less minutes and you think he played well overall? Incredible. Not to mention this was only one game. By the way LAC was playing small ball lineup so who on the Rockets can guard Collison? That is why Parsons had to be on Paul. Man, Willie freaking Green blew by Harden afew times but no one mentions that.

  • Cooper says 5 months ago

    You can't trade stars unless you're in danger of losing them, much too risky even for a bounty of picks it would basically be asking to get fired.

  • rockets best fan says 5 months ago

    trading stars for potential is a bad idea even if the draft is loaded. I agree with Sir Thursday and TTDN. as for starting Canaan over Lin...........can't get to much worse than Lin played last night so basically we have nothing to lose and everything to gain. if Lin can't handle the job it might be best to let someone else try

  • timetodienow1234567 says 5 months ago There are only two players I would trade harden for. KD and Lebron. No one else would be worth it.
  • Sir Thursday says 5 months ago

    Howard Jones Parsons Wiggins Smart, sounds like a hell of a team to me.

    I would take Harden over those guys. Everyone is slathering at the potential of the incoming draftees, but [a> they are not guaranteed to reach the heights everyone is projecting and even if they do, it's going to take a few years to fulfil that potential. That might be a nice team by say, 2017, but you want to be constructing a team to challenge before that because Howard's prime isn't going to last for more than another 2-3 seasons. I think we can get to a team that's has a high enough ceiling to give us a non-negligible chance of winning the title earlier by sticking with what we've got at the moment (plus or minus a few judicious roster moves).

    ST

  • timetodienow1234567 says 5 months ago Smart would be much better than Canaan. I agree with Steven.
  • Steven says 5 months ago Howard Jones Parsons Wiggins Smart, sounds like a hell of a team to me.
  • timetodienow1234567 says 5 months ago If this was the '03 draft? Yes I would. Having both James and Melo?
  • NorEastern says 5 months ago

    As usual unknown potential trumps proven veterans every time. And my honest opinion is that it is wrong. Especially with a sample size of exactly one game playing against NBA starters. My god, the leap of faith based only on a sample size to small to be considered a sample size. Lin had a poor game. Canaan had a great game ... for a rookie. Jumping to conclusions as a fan is guaranteed to lead to disappointment. And invariably just being flat out wrong.

    An example I have been thinking about: Would you trade Harden for the top two picks in the loaded 2014 draft? The top three? If you answered yes to the first of those two questions you are seriously betting against a stacked house. The second question may perhaps approach break even over the last 20 draft years.

  • rockets best fan says 5 months ago

    @thenit

    I disagree that trying rookies by fire guarantees failure. even if Canaan is not ready he can learn from the experience. for allexperienced purposes Lin was a rookie when we tossed him out there last year. I am more concerned about how playing Canaan will affect Lin's fragile confidence. I don't think he can handle the truth :lol:even though Lin has no future here beyond this summer, we do need him bring something to the table this year. relegating him back to the bench might be something he can not recover from. I don't like having to holding his hand, and signing kum-ba-ya songs stroking his fragile confidence, but if that will at least get him to show up it would be worth it. that brooks trade hurt us, but not because of Canaan......it's because of Lin. ask yourself this.......if it were Lin hurt instead of Beverley would we be as concerned?............probably not

  • thenit says 5 months ago I am not saying Lin wouldn't get torched the same way most Pgs get torched by all the elite Pgs in the west. But it might hurt more for the development of Canaan to put him in that spotlight. I'm not sure why rockets kept parsons on him when he hasn't played good d all year long and couldn't do anything last night against Paul. That's a coaching topic tho.

    My point was that it's more related to next year. I think it's better to let Lin play and let him soar or fall straight to the ground and kill this question whether he can perform at nba level. If he falls on his head it will be easy to just play Canaan as a backup while keeping canaan confidence intact. We won't win with either But we can afford to shatter lins confidence and career but not Canaan. If Lin by against all odds soars then we will go for the ride and see how far we can go. We are not there yet IMO to win it all.
  • Steven says 5 months ago

    @Steven
    while I agree with you. however we must also think about Lin's fragile confidence. to remove him at this point may accelerate his decline into the abyss. for all his faults we need him to step up. it's not likely it will happen, but we don't have many options right now. even if Canaan excels we still need Lin to deliver meaningful minutes.

    Get him some tissues and a plane ticket.
  • rockets best fan says 5 months ago

    @Steven

    while I agree with you. however we must also think about Lin's fragile confidence. to remove him at this point may acceleratehis decline into the abyss. for all his faults we need him to step up. it's not likely it will happen, but we don't have many options right now.even if Canaan excelswe still need Lin to deliver meaningful minutes.

  • Steven says 5 months ago

    I somewhat agree with the fiddle rent fits, however I rather give Lin the run as a starter if it turns out bev won't be back. If he falters and struggles the first two games in round one, then you gamble on the rookie. This would finally resolve the Lin question whether he has any shot at being part of a championship team next year. If not we can phase Canaan in next year with Lin being benched or traded. We should at least see what Lin can do in a playoff healthy. He had 1 full game before being injured last year. I don't like plugging in Canaan as a starter because he will get torched by the elite guards and it's not fair nor good for his development to be thrust into that role with barely any meaningful minutes throughout the season

    McHale put Parsons on Paul last night to try to condone for the lack of defense that Lin provides. Canaan won't get torched anymore then Lin will.
  • thenit says 5 months ago I somewhat agree with the fiddle rent fits, however I rather give Lin the run as a starter if it turns out bev won't be back. If he falters and struggles the first two games in round one, then you gamble on the rookie. This would finally resolve the Lin question whether he has any shot at being part of a championship team next year. If not we can phase Canaan in next year with Lin being benched or traded. We should at least see what Lin can do in a playoff healthy. He had 1 full game before being injured last year. I don't like plugging in Canaan as a starter because he will get torched by the elite guards and it's not fair nor good for his development to be thrust into that role with barely any meaningful minutes throughout the season
  • rockets best fan says 5 months ago

    @JG

    do you realize what you are saying? you would rather see a ROOKIE start over the supposedly established veteran? personally I totally agree :lol:however I was thinking about what that statement really says about Lin. Lin has been in the Rockets developmental system for 2 years yet I would rather see a rookie I have only seen flashes of start over him. what little confidence Lin does still have remaining would be shattered if he is unable to beat a rookie out for the starting job, that's my only problem with the which right now. let Lin start, but gradually allow Cannan to cut into his minutes would probably be a better bandage right now :lol:

  • thejohnnygold says 5 months ago

    After seeing Canaan in last night's game I'd like to see him start over Lin. The reason is I want Lin to continue developing himself and the reserves into a solid unit with good chemistry. With him, D-Mo, Asik, and whichever SG/SF combo McHale decides to play with them they have a chance to be solid on defense and do some legitimate scoring.

    Meanwhile, Canaan can provide a presence similar to Beverley like Drew just described above. Canaan gets quality minutes. Lin hones his role. This seems like the best route to take in my opinion. Plus, if this happens Steven's prediction of Canaan starting in the playoffs could actually come true--which is kind of awesome even if it is due to injury. :)

  • Drew in Abilene says 5 months ago

    But this is Bev. If he's not 100% physically he's not worth playing. His brand of pesky defense leads him to overcommit at times and without his athleticism to allow him to get back into position, he will struggle defensively which is the only reason he would be playing.

    I hope he gets healthy but he might just hurt the team if he comes back before he's 100%.

    I respectfully disagree. If he's not 100%, I agree that his defense will be diminished somewhat, which is a major factor in his playing time. But one of the biggest positives he brings to the table, in my opinion, is a steady hand at point guard. He has been hitting threes at a decent clip while not being a high-usage player, which is exactly what Houston needs from him on offense. The more possessions that are focused on Howard and Harden, and to a lesser extend Parsons, the better. Beverley's ability to be a difference-maker on defense and not be a negative presence on offense is just what the starters need from him.

    The other factor is Lin. I truly believe that the Rockets need him in his role as a spark plug off the bench. Without Harden/Howard to soak up possessions, it's not quite so bad if he makes a few mistakes that lead to turnovers, since our bench unit hasn't been exactly lights out. Lin can have the room and the touches to be aggressive, which often leads to buckets, assists, or fouls for the opposition. The turnovers will be frustrating, as they always are with the Rockets, but it won't be turnovers instead of a shot by Harden or a pick-and-roll with Howard. I fully expect for Lin to go off and swing a few games here and there, just like I expect a few bad turnovers to severely undermine Houston's chances a few times.

    I feel strongly that the success of the past few months has been driven, in part, by the stylistic fit of Beverley in the starting lineup and Lin with the bench unit. Those good fits are tossed out the window if Lin is forced to start and Canaan serves as backup. I'd much prefer 85-95% Beverley and 100% Lin in roles that they're good at and used to as opposed to Lin and Canaan both at 100% but in roles that they aren't suited for on this team.

    Then again, that's just my opinion. I could certainly be very wrong. I just hope Beverley recovers quickly, so that we have a chance to find out.

  • Steven says 5 months ago Mitchell, Canaan is more ready then Jeremy Lin.
  • Texan Ensemble says 5 months ago

    This is just one reason why I would say pass on Melo this offseason and instead sign Avery Bradley, who will be a free agent. One, he will obviously be cheaper, leaving room for a assumptive Parsons second contract. Secondly, while Melo would boost our offense, specifically the mid-range jumpers to stretch the floor a bit more....a combo of Avery Bradley and Pat Beverly as the second guard, is almost the PERFECT compliment to Harden, as both are defensive minded.

  • timetodienow1234567 says 5 months ago But this is Bev. If he's not 100% physically he's not worth playing. His brand of pesky defense leads him to overcommit at times and without his athleticism to allow him to get back into position, he will struggle defensively which is the only reason he would be playing.

    I hope he gets healthy but he might just hurt the team if he comes back before he's 100%.